#dev 2022-09-06

2022-09-06 UTC
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[tantek]4 looks like GitHub's web UI doesn't have an obvious way to rename non-text files, because their renaming UI depends on the pencil edit button, and they (obviously) don't provide a pencil edit button on non-text files
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[tantek]4 so to rename a non-text file you have to delete, rename locally, re-upload
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[tantek]4 GWG, since the order in a /collection is significant, I don't see how "series" is any different
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GWG [tantek]4: I forget what the discussion was when we were debating that a few years back
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[tantek]4 I don't remember ever seeing /series before. I have a feeling if I had I would have made the same point then
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[tantek]4 GWG, your first clue is that the /series article doesn't even mention /collection or how it's different from a /collection. That's a very strong indicator that the creation of the page and contribution to it was done without knowing about /collection
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GWG No, I remember that we were...I just can't remember the full context. In a practical difference, mine aren't posts... they are generated like feeds
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[tantek]4 that sounds more like generated like tag pages
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[tantek]4 so it's a dynamic collection rather than an explicitly created collection?
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[tantek]4 !tell jamievtanna, [fluffy], [chrisaldrich] any objection to merging /series into /collection? There doesn't seem to be any distinguishing aspect of what makes a "series" different from a "collection" (other than Medium calls them "series" apparently).
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[fluffy] Series have an implication of a sequence for viewing/reading, while collections tend to be a bit more unstructured
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[fluffy] But that's a minor objection
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[tantek]4 collections do note that order matters, perhaps that aspect needs to be moved to the definition
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[fluffy] yeah maybe. I see the podcast example shows both ordered and unordered versions
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[tantek]4 what surprised me was the example GWG gave, was actually reverse ordered, which didn't make sense. https://david.shanske.com/series/israel-2015/
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[tantek]4 I don't know of any trip reports that start with the end of the trip then describe the trip in reverse order day by day, week by week
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GWG [tantek]4: Correct
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[tantek]4 GWG, uh, what part is "correct"? you intended a reverse chronological reading?
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GWG [tantek]4: I just noticed it was wrong when I shared the link, so I need to fix it.
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GWG I intended chronological order
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[tantek]4 ah got it. ok
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[fluffy] I'd be fine with series being a synonym for collection
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[tantek]4 yeah it's a week for that. I only just days ago learned that "carousel" is pretty close to a synonym for multiphoto
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[tantek]4 but apparently that's what they're called outside of indieweb circles 😂 ("multiphoto" was something we here in the IndieWeb community made-up)
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[fluffy] yeah 'carousel' is incredibly common as a term for that
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[fluffy] specifically with the UX of having photos that can be swiped back and forth or which automatically cycle through
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[fluffy] like on streaming apps where it automatically shows a showcase of current must-watch shows at the top
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[tantek]4 right
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[tantek]4 it does seem like "carousel" is more about that specific swipe back/forth UI rather than the content-focus of a "multiphoto"
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[fluffy] yeah. on my site the multiphoto UX is called a 'lightbox'
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[fluffy] for example on http://beesbuzz.biz/art/photography/77-Japan-November-2011
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[tantek]4 hmm, I see a masonry layout there
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[fluffy] The lightbox comes up when you click on a photo
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[tantek]4 not for me, it loads a jpg directly
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[fluffy] weird
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[fluffy] that's the non-script fallback. what browser are you on and do you have any js blocking things?
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[fluffy] the currnet lightbox script I use is still based on jQuery, because i've been too lazy to replace it with something more modern
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[fluffy] I'm still using https://lokeshdhakar.com/projects/lightbox2/
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[tantek]4 Firefox and I enabled JS for the domain
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[tantek]4 oh it was not working on http:
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[fluffy] ah
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[tantek]4 because I had just clicked the link in chat 🙂
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[tantek]4 now I see the zoom in effect 🙂
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[fluffy] yeah, and for whatever reason when I go to my own site i always get the http version, because that's what firefox keeps autocompleting 😛
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[fluffy] still, http vs https shouldn't make a difference unless you're running an addon that blocks js on http
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[tantek]4 nevermind, I mean the crossfade
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[tantek]4 that's probably NoScript blocking http js or maybe js in an http html page
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[fluffy] makes sense
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[tantek]4 hah - you can search for the http: version in your history and delete it. that should stop the autocompleting of it
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[tantek]4 that kind of thing really bugs me too
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[fluffy] I'm still a holdout for allowing http access for Reasonsbut it seems like the browsers want to just completely obsolete that now anyway
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[tantek]4 I think we're on the same page there
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[fluffy] so maybe I should just give in and redirect http->https
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[tantek]4 nah 🙂
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[fluffy] I put a lot of work into publ to make sure http vs. https works correctly, especially for anon vs. logged-in and so on
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[fluffy] and relative links etc.
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[tantek]4 yup. I'm a fan of https://indieweb.org/HTTPS#Level_4_security
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[tantek]4 I should add myself there
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Loqi yea
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[fluffy] in Feed On Feeds I went with the image proxy approach for mixed-content avoidance, although the practical reason for that was less about mixed-content and more about also getting around webcomics with anti-hotlink stuff
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[fluffy] lots of webcomic artists put in anti-hotlink stuff but then fail to consider the implications on their feeds
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[fluffy] thus https://github.com/fluffy-critter/Feed-on-Feeds/blob/master/img.php
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@OpenMentions Give me a shout-out if you use http://brid.gy to connect your #Twitter to your blog or website. #IndieWeb #bridgy #WebMentions https://openmentions.com/topics/indieweb/brid-gy/ (twitter.com/_/status/1567070945231216642)
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@OpenMentions Give me a shout-out if you use http://brid.gy to connect your #Twitter to your blog or website. #IndieWeb #bridgy #WebMentions https://openmentions.com/topics/indieweb/brid-gy/ (twitter.com/_/status/1567070945231216642)
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barnaby users of taproot/indieauth with the default forms now get a much nicer looking authorization page https://i.imgur.com/NA6m3rK.png
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capjamesg barnaby++ Nice!
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Loqi barnaby has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (24 in all channels)
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Loqi barnaby has 12 karma in this channel over the last year (25 in all channels)
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[schmarty] Oooh barnaby++
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capjamesg GWG Your site inspired me to create a feature showing posts from the past: https://jamesg.blog/search/?time_machine=true&q=c
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capjamesg I'd love any feedback!
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@MuseResort ↩️ Our site supports #WebMention. (twitter.com/_/status/1567161364262653953)
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@OpenMentions ↩️ Keep going. #WebMentions and a http://brid.gy account linked to your Twitter are awesome. (twitter.com/_/status/1567160292815130624)
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@OpenMentions ↩️ Keep going. #WebMentions and a http://brid.gy account linked to your Twitter are awesome. (twitter.com/_/status/1567160292815130624)
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[Jamie_Tanna] barnaby++ woop!
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Loqi barnaby has 13 karma in this channel over the last year (26 in all channels)
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[tantek]4 capjamesg interesting! that might be the first "on this day" that uses day of the month rather than day of the year
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@H4kor ↩️ @borghal I'm also currently working my indieWeb integration. Already able to retrieve webmentions, working on sendi… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1567173870917910529 (twitter.com/_/status/1567173870917910529)
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capjamesg What is on this day?
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Loqi on this day is a feature on some silos and indieweb sites which show posts published on the current (typically Gregorian) day of the year in previous years; commons sites tend to show more general historical events that occurred on that same day https://indieweb.org/on_this_day
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@borghal ↩️ Nice! Are you using http://webmention.io or something else? (twitter.com/_/status/1567178592991191040)
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capjamesg How do you add a h-card for a whole h-feed?
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[tantek]4 capjamesg via the author property: https://microformats.org/wiki/h-feed#Core_Properties
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