#dev 2022-09-27

2022-09-27 UTC
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aaronpk ok i'm having decent luck using the Liquid template engine directly
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capjamesg angelo How is IndieWeb rocks going?
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capjamesg Has anyone worked with Sphinx in Python?
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capjamesg The IndieWeb Utils documentation builds as expected locally but the auto function generator doesn't work on Read the Docs.
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retronav Hi folks! Asking for some inspiration on how to automate u-syndication links. Since brid.gy can syndicate to all silos I want, I can probably store the location returned by the webmention as u-syndication
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[snarfed]1 capjamesg I remember iterating a lot to get RTD's build to work. their build logs are useful, I assume you've looked at those?
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[snarfed]1 retronav sounds great!
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retronav thanks! i'll get back if this works
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capjamesg [snarfed] I fixed it!
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capjamesg This has been an issue for a long time.
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capjamesg [James_Van_Dyne] mind reviewing the docs PR? It's a quick one.
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[snarfed]1 capjamesg++
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Loqi capjamesg has 32 karma in this channel over the last year (91 in all channels)
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[snarfed]1 and docs++ ! I've appreciated being able to point people to specific parts of eg https://granary.readthedocs.io/ , https://bridgy.readthedocs.io/ , etc easily
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jacky this page on how to do CSS https://jgthms.com/web-design-in-4-minutes is really cool and I feel like there's a way to do this for something like IndieAuth
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jacky and tbh, lol, this guide is really good - HTML's about presenting content
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[aciccarello] Nice, that's a cool way to demonstrate how little changes add up
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aaronpk finally finished my flickr archive
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aaronpk pretty excited to be able to not pay for flickr anymore
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[tw2113_Slack_]1 now to remind yourself to not upload there any more
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aaronpk i think i'm going to continue posting select photos there since i do like that people still search for CC licensed photos there and mine get used in random articles which is kind of fun
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[schmarty] oof that web-design-in-4-minutes page ends up with a bunch of low-contrast text. definitely not accessible colors. 😕
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[tw2113_Slack_]1 i know it’s kind of wordpress-centric but I am interested a bit in https://wordpress.org/openverse/
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capjamesg [James_Van_Dyne] I have made a few more PRs for IndieWeb utils.
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jacky [schmarty]: yeah that's def something I'd change too
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angelo capjamesg i've moved from json files to sqlite `json1` for crawl storage so that i can use `json_set()` to atomically update in multiple background jobs working on analyzing the same site at the same time
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jacky sqlite++
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capjamesg angelo If you end up writing any generic functions that may be useful in other IndieWeb applications, contributions to indieweb-utils would be greatly welcomed!
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capjamesg sqlite++
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angelo so now analysis of a site takes at max the time of the slowest job (lighthouse) which gives an immediate ~5-10x speedup for the single-user iterative development feedback loop
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[KevinMarks] [jacky] except that it destroyed the contrast 4 steps in and then makes the code completely illegible
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angelo capjamesg i'm addressing feed discovery right now with mf2util, indieweb-utils and wiki in hand. will report back.
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jacky random: would it be a decent application of WebSub if one used it to subscribe to URLs in a synthetic way?
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jacky Like how granary can generate feeds, if one were to give a subscription topic of a GitHub repo, you could essentially subscribe to all of the events and URLs of that repo
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capjamesg angelo We have that!
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capjamesg https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-utils/blob/main/src/indieweb_utils/feeds/discovery.py#L20
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capjamesg The docstring has an example for you.
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capjamesg If you encounter any issues let us know!
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capjamesg This will be in the main documentation once we resolve the documentation import issues.
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angelo yeah i've got that code up in a tab. i just know that mf2util has some nuance that a) i'd like not be forgotten and b) i've probably come to rely upon.
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angelo for example, https://github.com/kylewm/mf2util/blob/master/mf2util.py#L750 calls find_first_entry() which performs a breadth first search for h-feed whereas https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-utils/blob/main/src/indieweb_utils/feeds/discovery.py#L130 appears to only check the top-level array of items in the mf2json
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capjamesg angelo Yeah, that function does look for items in mf2py responses. But, the parser should return every h-feed.
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capjamesg Oh... wait.
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capjamesg Can an mf2 parser have a h-feed nested in a h-entry?
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sknebel parsers dont care about that
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sknebel could be a h-blafoobar inside a h-lffsjdfdsfsfs
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sknebel what the h-* mean is a layer above the parser
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angelo see tantek's homepage
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angelo not in an h-entry but also not at the top level
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capjamesg angelo Could you compare the outputs of the two functions?
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jacky anyone heard of SCIM? https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7644
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jacky it look like a very verbose identity management API
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jacky came across it b/c I'm looking at bridging gitlab and this is one of the APIs they provide
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[aciccarello] Interesting, 2015
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angelo capjamesg i don't see that `discover_h_feed` in the currently published API. `discover_web_page_feeds` is just finding the feeds, not actually finding the entries. i do see that it searches the document for h-feed so it's technically working but not in the mf2json context where it matters for actual entry discovery.
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[aciccarello] jacky, strike that, it's from 2011. Sounds more enterprisey than I initially understood. https://www.okta.com/blog/2017/01/what-is-scim/
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jacky yupp
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angelo capjamesg mf2util.interpret_feed(..) returns all of the entries. problem is the vocabulary has been taken into consideration for syntactic sugar reasons and that hasn't aged well. what i want is the full generic mf2json of the /representative feed/ if you will.
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jacky TIL that micropub helped informed activitypub
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aaronpk we're working on some revisions to SCIM at the IETF right now, i'm co-chairing that group
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jacky oh nice
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jacky from a glance, it seems like a cleaner form of something like LDAP
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jacky cleaner in the sense that I could implement this by hand lol
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