#dev 2022-09-28

2022-09-28 UTC
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vikanezrimaya ugh the fact that quill still doesn't understand ?q=channel => { uid, name } is somewhat annoying
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vikanezrimaya maybe i should remember my php skills and make a PR
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jacky heh if anything, I silently believe aaronpk both doesn't have time to add things to projects and also uses it as a lever to encourage us to make things
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jacky is using that as his rationate to be up brainstorming on things
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sknebel https://github.com/itteco/iframely
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Loqi [itteco] iframely: oEmbed proxy. Supports over 1800 domains via custom parsers, oEmbed, Twitter Cards and Open Graph
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gRegor Revisiting https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/pull/19, I'd like to get a new release if possible. I don't think there's breaking changes, so could be 1.0.2
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Loqi [gRegorLove] #19 Add support for IndieAuth metadata endpoint
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gRegor Are there any other updates we'd want to get in the new release?
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[schmarty] gRegor++ i'm hyped!
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Loqi gRegor has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (65 in all channels)
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vikanezrimaya https://fireburn.ru/posts/legacy-indieauth-in-kittybox
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Loqi [Vika] Since Kittybox (or more precisely, its IndieAuth library) doesn’t support omitting PKCE, I found myself unable to log into some apps like Together. Kinda sad, but that’s the price of being on the bleeding edge of the spec, with almost no support ...
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vikanezrimaya the funniest part is: Aperture also doesn't seem to work
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vikanezrimaya so I guess I'll have to ALSO implement Microsub myself
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gRegor This lib already supports PKCE in the current release
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vikanezrimaya I did plan to do that eventually
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gRegor Depends on clients updating to it, though. indiebookclub.biz uses PKCE
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vikanezrimaya gRegor: Quill supports the spec almost perfectly, only not being able to handle missing "scope" in token grant response.
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vikanezrimaya I should probably wait until either Quill patches things up or I write my own client and then make the scope parameter in the token grant response only show up if I chose a different set of scopes
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Loqi yea
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vikanezrimaya Considering I just found out that TypeScript is packaged in Nixpkgs and I can use it without messing around with NPM, and also compile ES2022 modules that run directly in modern browsers, I think I should just bite the bullet and write my own web UI for posting
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vikanezrimaya (I'm afraid of touching NPM since the drive wiping attack on people with IP addresses from "undesirable" countries)
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gRegor What do you mean by Aperture also doesn't seem to work? Doesn't support PKCE?
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gRegor Aperture is also using indieauth-client-php, so once that PR is in, it can update to support PKCE.
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gRegor Er, *metadata-endpoint, not PKCE
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vikanezrimaya Aperture just fails outright.
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vikanezrimaya indieauth error
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vikanezrimaya The authorization code was not able to be verified
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vikanezrimaya eh
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vikanezrimaya i suppose i could try writing my own...
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gRegor Maybe it's that same missing scope issue
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vikanezrimaya OH WAIT A SECOND.
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vikanezrimaya I THINK I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A BUG SOMEWHERE?...
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vikanezrimaya im not sure i need to check
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vikanezrimaya AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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vikanezrimaya goes into panic mode
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vikanezrimaya i knew i should've used typescript for my JS shims
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vikanezrimaya i hate JS
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vikanezrimaya i sometimes do wish JS would have never existed
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[aciccarello] Our company uses a lot of TypeScript. It comes in handy a lot.
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[aciccarello] TypeScript support for reading JSDoc annotations has gotten pretty good for IDE tooling. It's handy for when you don't want to add a build tool, but there are limitations for sure and it can get verbose.
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jacky Yeah, I've been leaning on the JSDoc annotations, quite handy
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jacky that and auto-inference
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capjamesg [James_Van_Dyne] What do you think re: a v0.3.0 release soon? Are there any functions we should add before then?
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capjamesg angelo Quite a few of the planned functions for indieweb.rocks are already available in indieweb utils :)
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capjamesg post type identification / homepage representative h-card / getting webmention headers / getting websub headers
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[James_Van_Dyne] [jamesg483] Yeah - I reckon we are. It’s been a while and people won’t use these latest changes unless there’s a release 🙂
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capjamesg There are four open PRs to close up then we can make a release.
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capjamesg Also, what do you think about this [James_Van_Dyne]: https://github.com/capjamesg/indieweb-utils/issues/41
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Loqi [capjamesg] #41 Proposal to allow access to HTTP headers and status code from send_webmention function
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capjamesg Oh wait I did that.
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capjamesg Never mind.
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capjamesg Do we need a SECURITY.md policy?
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[James_Van_Dyne] Nah, I don’t think so? Would effectively just say “Open an issue to let us know or email one of the Jameses”
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capjamesg I don't think so either.
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capjamesg What do you think re: v0.3 vs. v1?
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[James_Van_Dyne] Let’s keep it 0.3 for now.
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[James_Van_Dyne] v1 seems implies the api is completely stable / won’t change.
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[snarfed]1 well, won't change in a backward compatible way
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[snarfed]1 I change my libraries' APIs all the time, but generally don't bump major version unless I break compatibility in some way
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capjamesg [snarfed] Are there any good first issues on Bridgy?
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capjamesg Or granary for that matter.
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capjamesg On a completely separate note, aaronpk [KevinMarks] [snarfed] was there any collective agreement on this: https://github.com/indieweb/authorship/issues/4
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Loqi [snarfed] #4 do we need an h-feed authorship algorithm?
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[snarfed]1 no movement afaik
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[snarfed]1 re granary/Bridgy issues, definitely some, but start with any that you care about!
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[snarfed]1 I'll happily weigh in on how good they'd be as intro issues
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[KevinMarks] There is the issue that a feed may not have an author but each entry has one or more (eg a feed of indie news or equivalent composite feed). Conversely, if its a single user blog, then repeating author per entry is redundant and it should inherit from the feed. Atom defines itself this way.
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