#dev 2022-11-20

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[tantek] In fact I think I'd like to rewrite the text in IndieWeb terms
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[tantek] all of it
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[tantek] this might be an incremental step towards a better fallback for webactions
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[tantek] e.g. "Copy and paste this URL into the reply field of your favorite Micropub app or replying interface of your IndieWeb site."
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mro c+p - what a sad UX.
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[tantek] mro, it's a better UX than a deadend, hence, fallback for a more seamless UX with webactions
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mro haven't considered deadend an option.
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mro what was wrong with the prior callbacks?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "wrong with the prior callbacks" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "wrong with the prior callbacks is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] the "prior callbacks" were proofs of concept, not a documented protocol. They were a good exploration towards designing a protocol but not workable across arbitrary implementations
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mro ic, is there a writeup somewhere?
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barnaby what is indie-config
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Loqi indie-config is a way to setup your IndieWeb site to make itself available to your web browser to recognize webactions like reply & like buttons on other sites, and then delegate handling of those actions to your site https://indieweb.org/indie-config
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mro thx
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mro what about a bookmarklet like at https://demo.shaarli.org/admin/tools?
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mro uid/pwd demo/demo
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gRegor is micropublish.net down for anyone else?
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[tantek] bookmarklets were another approach we tried too, along with browser add-ons. these are both good for prototpying user interactions.
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gRegor !tell jamietanna https://editor.tanna.dev/ appears to not send a `state` parameter when I try to sign in
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Jamie Tanna
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Seirdy anybody else noticing indielogin.com failing due to too many redirects? I can't log in with seirdy.one
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Seirdy Maybe it's the seirdy.one referrer-policy?
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gRegor I just signed in ok
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gRegor I think it's because you have authorization_endpoint=indielogin.com/auth
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gRegor It's not like indieauth.com where you delegate it as your authorization_endpoint
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Seirdy oh
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Seirdy so should i just delete that line?
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Seirdy if possible, i'd like to signal a "preferred endpoint"
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gRegor If you're wanting to sign other people in to your site or some app you're working on, you'd want to follow https://indielogin.com/api
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gRegor vs if you're trying to sign in to some other app with your own domain name, like the indieweb wiki, you'd want https://indielogin.com/setup
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Loqi How to Set Up Your Website for IndieLogin.com
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Seirdy aite thanks
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Seirdy think i'll just delete it
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gRegor That will definitely work for signing in to indielogin.com as a test, yeah
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Seirdy later i might add my own endpt
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Seirdy first i gotta get my own websub hub running
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gRegor Usually `authorization_endpoint` should point to an IndieAuth Server that can handle exchanging authorization code requests for access tokens, like the WordPress IndieAuth plugin can make your site an IndieAuth Server for example
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gRegor In the past, indieauth dot com was a "IndieAuth Server as a Service" thing, but it's being phased out so don't recommend that
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GWG It is a long phasing
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Seirdy im trying to keep my site a "static site with ancillary services running on the same server"
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Seirdy so "it's static but not really"
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gRegor Understandable. I don't know all the best options there, if you need an IndieAuth Server
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Seirdy ideally with all the ancillary services running as static binaries in their own chroots
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gRegor You may not need one if you're not trying to grant access tokens, e.g. to publish to your site via Micropub
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Seirdy not too interested in mpub, more interested in msub. but first i gotta get that websub hub running
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gRegor (And if you don't mind leveraging other services like Github, Twitter, etc. for the default indielogin.com process)
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Seirdy (who came up with these names...)
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Seirdy i can imagine a "stop doing indieweb" meme with a "statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged" quote all like "publish and subscribe with micropub and microsub (powered by a websub hub, formerly known as a pubsubhubbub hub)"
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barnaby Seirdy: if your server can run PHP then taproot/indieauth can easily be set up as an indieauth identity provider
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barnaby lol
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barnaby at least websub is an improvement over pubsubhubbub
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Seirdy reminds me of "bird mode"
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sknebel pubsubhubbub is a great name
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sknebel and websub utterly generic
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gRegor no hub, just "websub". But yes, lots of rhyming going on :)
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Seirdy there was a time when someone would say "subscribe to my micropub pubsubhubbub hub" and i think that's beautiful /s
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Seirdy *there was a time when someone would say "subscribe to my microSUB pubsubhubbub hub" and i think that's beautiful /s
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barnaby thankfully this is all plumbing, and none of these names need to reach UIs or users
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Seirdy gRegor: i thought websub had "subscribers" that push to client devices, "publishers" that push from sources to hubs, and "hubs" that grab content from publishers and push them to all subscribed subscribers.
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Seirdy hence, "websub hub"
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gRegor oh, right. I was just thinking of the generic name.
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Seirdy if i ever write a websub hub i will call it "hubhubsubweb"
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Seirdy so it'll be the "hubhubsubweb websub hub"
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gRegor made a flub about the websub hub
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Seirdy "FAQ: why did you make this?"
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Seirdy "I missed the name PubSubHubBub"
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Seirdy i'll make it part of a suite called "microsubhub"
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Seirdy "microsubhub hubhub is a websub hub. microsubhub pubpub is a websub pub. microsubhub subsub is a websub sub."
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Seirdy and a MicroSub SaaS combining all three will be called "Microsbubby"
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gRegor Interesting, I can click on my @-@ from someone's Mastodon followers tab and the profile appears, though if I visit that URL directly it redirects.
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Seirdy yes mastodon 4's read-only frontend is basically the pleroma frontend now
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gRegor Was thinking that might be a quick way to check if my posts federate to Mastodon (without setting up an account)
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sknebel pubsubhubbub is memorable. like people that got told about it once in a uni lecture actually remembered it years later
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Seirdy the fastest way to do that would be to use the search field in a pleroma instance; just paste the canonical activitypub url
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Seirdy sknebel: yeah but then people would have to say "I run my own pubsubhubbub pub but someone else's pubsubhubbub hub for my microsub publishing setup" with a straight face.
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sknebel or use the abbreviation or not unnecessarily repeat themselves in a sentence
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sknebel :D
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gRegor Seirdy, I'm using Bridgy Fed, my site is the canonical URL. I'm just curious what people on Mastodon see.
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[tantek] gRegor, add yourself! https://indieweb.org/Bridgy_Fed#IndieWeb_Examples
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gRegor Done
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[fluffy] Just got an interesting weird webmention via webmention.io: https://cagrimmett.com/ sent a mention to beesbuzz.biz via the indieweb webring, which I guess resolved to my site when validation happened to take place.
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Loqi Hi, I’m Chuck Grimmett. Check out my blog, see what I’m reading, dig around in my digital garden, learn a bit more about me, or search for something. Twitter Instagram GitHub RSS Feed Weekly updates Week of November 7 Week of Oct...
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[fluffy] wow, and that’s made loqi go bonkers too
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[fluffy] probably from all of the h-entry links on the navigation bar
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[fluffy] but anyway it seems weird to me that webmention.io would have delivered a mention specifically to me based on the momentary redirection of the indieweb ring.
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[fluffy] although it looks like it didn’t get delivered to my page URL itself, just to my mentions feed, so I guess I can safely ignore it
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[fluffy] I’m guessing that when the mention was sent, the `https://xn--sr8hvo.ws/%F0%9F%91%8A%F0%9F%93%88%F0%9F%98%8C/previous` link resolved to beesbuzz.biz, which then offered `webmention.io/beesbuzz.biz/webmention` as the endpoint, and since the link in question was indeed present, it was accepted and then delivered to my dashboard. Which makes me realize there’s a potential, if obscure, spam attack vector enabled by webmention.io.
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Loqi Ryan Johnson
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[fluffy] … although come to think of it, that doesn’t actually increase the spam potential any further than a normal webmention already can, it’s just slightly more confusing to untangle.
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@tonysull_co The indieweb. A tale as old a time. RSS let's you follow a site's new content Webmentions let's sites reply to each other Twitter let's hikers keep their families updated via SMS Activitypub adds a pubsub model Everyone turns on Twitter...only to find Activitypub doesn't scale (twitter.com/_/status/1594195851911757824)
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@MikeWMerritt Apologies for a bunch of spammy tweets over the last few days. Been trying to integrate #webmention from Twitter to my site and didn't fully understand how it works until now. (twitter.com/_/status/1594197000425246723)
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@jaxroam ↩️ Making my Mastodon homes, but considering #bridgy or something to unify platforms that do support #ActivityPub with those that don't. https://brid.gy/ (twitter.com/_/status/1594199913453305859)
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@tonysull_co Officially getting old... I still don't understand why I need Mastodon when we still have RSS + Webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/1594203449968803840)
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[jamietanna] gRegor thanks re editor.tanna.dev missing `state`! I'll try to get to that today. Is that blocking you logging in?
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Loqi [jamietanna]: gRegor left you a message 7 hours, 59 minutes ago: https://editor.tanna.dev/ appears to not send a `state` parameter when I try to sign in
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[jamietanna] Happy to chuck `state` in as well, but from what I've read, using PKCE should fill the same purpose?
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> What is serverless?
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[jamietanna] capjamesg was that to trigger Loqi? If so I guess Discord bridge still doesn't cause it
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> I was curious more generally.
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@malkav30 ↩️ Je suis tombé sur cet article qui date un peu mais qui donne également une vue éthique et technique sur les commentaires d'un point de vue #indieweb : https://sebastiangreger.net/2018/05/indieweb-privacy-challenge-webmentions-backfeeds-gdpr (twitter.com/_/status/1594319559741292544)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ This is a good call. You can interoperate between http://micro.blog and mastodon smoothly, or you can wire up your own website with http://fed.brid.gy - different levels of tech engagement (twitter.com/_/status/1594332678593060865)
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[jamietanna] Gotcha capjamesg. The best descriptions of it I've heard describe it as "pay for what you use" and "scale to zero" - unlike traditional servers where you're paying regardless of how much you use it
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[snarfed] also a higher level of abstraction. you don't have to maintain the OS, system, server software stack, etc, so there's much less admin tax
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[schmarty] for folks grabbing twitter archives, today i learned that your archived tweets are (of course) full of `t.co` links that need unfurling. https://inkdroid.org/2022/11/20/t-dot-co/
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aaronpk nice
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@tonysull_co ↩️ @BHolmesDev Which brings us to https://fed.brid.gy/, a tool for effectively making an indieweb site with Webment… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594392019463712768 (twitter.com/_/status/1594392019463712768)
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[tantek] oh dear re: t.co links in twitter archives. that means that those links likely also die
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[tantek] that's a new kind of archive fragility that I had not seen before
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[tantek] since diagrams can help devs explain otherwise complex / jargony concepts
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[tantek] diagram << https://twitter.com/nurijanian/status/1593982488044453889
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/nurijanian/status/1593982488044453889" to the "See Also" section of /graphics https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84506&oldid=75204
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[tantek] diagram << ^ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh72n66XgAMhqv6.jpg
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Loqi ok, I added "^ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh72n66XgAMhqv6.jpg" to the "See Also" section of /graphics https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84507&oldid=84506
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[manton] Potential t.co fragility reminds me of old tweets that have twitpic or yfrog URLs that no longer work. Not good to centralize image URLs.
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> indeed
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[manton] Those images probably exist somewhere, but who knows where.
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[tantek] [schmarty] that python OSS to unfurl t.cos in archives needs to be a service which then builds a open database of t.cos for anyone to use
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> like now I _kinda_ get why mastodon and what not do hotlinking but sheesh
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> [manton] could imagine it pop up on the internet archive (hopefully)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> [tantek]: that's worth posting + boosting 🙂
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[tantek] Twitter << How to export: be sure to unfurl your t.cos in your archives when you receive them since the t/.co domain will likely stop working when Twitter shuts down: https://inkdroid.org/2022/11/20/t-dot-co/
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Loqi ok, I added "How to export: be sure to unfurl your t.cos in your archives when you receive them since the t/.co domain will likely stop working when Twitter shuts down: https://inkdroid.org/2022/11/20/t-dot-co/" to the "See Also" section of /Twitter https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84509&oldid=84497
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[jamietanna] When I've previously exported them there's the full data available including the raw URL and which t.co it corresponds to - pretty sure that's still there, just need to dig into the `tweet.js` static tweet export
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> oh that's good to know
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[tantek] [jamietanna] yeah that's my recollection as well, but I figured the folks writing this code would have looked for that. My guess was that newer archives might not have the raw URL. Would appreciate someone double-checking who has exported recently from Twitter
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[iambismark] Url shorteners are one of the great evils Twitter has brought about in the world…
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Loqi [iambismark]: [jamietanna] left you a message 4 days, 10 hours ago: I use a separate Git repo for my site's media that gets deployed to Netlify, as I'd written most of the code I needed at the time, but now I'd probably stick it into S3 with CloudFront for caching
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[iambismark] I worked at a long defunct startup where we had a url shortener explicitly for sharing to twitter.. it never got big, only in the tens of thousands of links… before we shut everything completely down I pulled a dump of all the links redirects… I wonder if I should do something with that…
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[tantek] what is a url shortener
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Loqi URL shortener is a service that turns a typical longer URL, like a permalink, into a much shorter URL, typically using a short domain, often per-site both for some silos, and several indieweb sites https://indieweb.org/URL_shortener
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[tantek] [iambismark] ^ feel free to contribute the examples of url shorteners you know of to that page, would be good to document more of them (and their history, loss of links)
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[iambismark] Will do. I know when I last did my twitter dump there were a few old tr.im links in there that I wasn’t able to reverse engineer via context… in the grand scale of things not a big deal but still frustrating.
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[jamietanna] [tantek] confirmed from an export from 2022-10-29 in `data/tweets.js`:
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[jamietanna] "symbols" : [ ],
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[jamietanna] "hashtags" : [ ],
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[jamietanna] ``` "tweet" : {
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[jamietanna] "urls" : [
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[jamietanna] "user_mentions" : [ ],
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[jamietanna] "entities" : {
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[jamietanna] ```
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[jamietanna] where `urls` has:
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[jamietanna] "url" : "https://t.co/J34cTvrAq0",
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[jamietanna] ``` {
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[jamietanna] "expanded_url" : "https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2022/10/vi5cm/",
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[jamietanna] "display_url" : "jvt.me/mf2/2022/10/vi…",
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[jamietanna] "indices" : [
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[jamietanna] "49",
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[jamietanna] "72"
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[jamietanna] ]
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[jamietanna] },```
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[tantek] [iambismark] I feel that, I was a big tr/.im user too 😕
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Loqi [Jamie Tanna] I feel this in my bones as an evergreen tweet 😅
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[tantek] We had to do a whole clean-up project at microformats.org to "repair" the use of tr/.im URLs: https://microformats.org/wiki/tr.im
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vilhalmer also worth noting that t.co links in your likes are _not_ expanded in the export
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[snarfed] for the record, the real ("unfurled") URLs are in the archive, you don't need to fetch them from t.co before if/when that dies
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vilhalmer oh wait maybe I'm wrong
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[snarfed] vilhalmer no I think you're right
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vilhalmer they have an expandedUrl but I can't find any that aren't just the tweet url itself
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[snarfed] right
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[snarfed] (thanks jamietanna! beat me to it)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> what are ddos
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> hm thinking about a good 'window' of time to add to mitigate/reduce DDoSing someone to check for their endpoints (like if someone else was going to try to use Sele for it)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> I do have CORS enforced maybe requiring them to be logged in would be good to
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[snarfed] jacky maybe premature? is there an amplification vector? if an attackr has to make a request to Sele to trigger the discovery, it doesn't really help them any
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> Gotcha, I was thinking of someone trying to use it as a 'trusted' vector to send a bunch of checks (b/c it doesn't cache them currently)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> (I see amplification being possible due to the lack of caching of results)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> so might just stick to that
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[snarfed] how does someone send one request to Sele and make it send multiple requests to the victim?
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[snarfed] if they can't, it may not matter. up to you though!
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> so there's a page I'll be adding where you can enter a URL to check if your site's good to go for IndieAuth support, kinda like https://indiewebify.me/
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> you could just click the button n amount of times (and it'd be up to the browser to fire off those requests)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> I _think_ though, writing this out, that you're right
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[snarfed] right. same as them clicking refresh on the site itself
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[snarfed] discovered just now that you can plug a bare domain into Mastodon search, or just @domain, and if it's AP-enabled, eg with Bridy Fed, Mastodon will find it. no @domain@domain needed
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> nice
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[tantek] that's only as of Mastodon 4.0 right? what is the "remote follow" experience in other software?
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[snarfed] not sure if it's version specific. feel free to try a 3.x instance if you know of one!
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sknebel not sure why that'd be 4.0 specific
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[tantek] I feel there's something here. SOMETHING motivated people to share their @-@ addresses in their Twitter profiles, then Twitter names etc. instead of "just" sharing their Masto profile URLs. That indicates to me that there's still some usability reason that makes @-@ work "better" (more reliably?) for people.
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[tantek] something *missing here. [heh]
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sknebel I dont think so
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sknebel @-@ is presented as "the username", and is more recognizable as "mastodon", but profile URLs have generally been more useful, and people have tried to tell others to please use those
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sknebel mastodon 4.0 just exposes the "hey you can copy the profile url into the search" more obviously since it tells people to do that instead of the remote-follow-popup thing, but it has worked before
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sknebel (and maybe some of the automatic twitter scanning things only looked for the @-@ form because thats easier to match, but the one I used also scanned all URLs I'm fairly sure)
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[tantek] is the "/@" a clue of a Mastodon profile URL then
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sknebel plenty silos use that form too though
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sknebel I'm fairly sure mastodon just goes fetch (with conneg?) and checks what it gets when given a random url as "search"
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sknebel but thats just observation from using it, I've not actually dug into the details/code
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[tantek] posting link here from stream because it seemed quite topical to these discussions: https://www.jasontucker.blog/14183/mastodon-indieweb-and-the-fediverse
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gRegor [jamietanna], yeah, my reading of https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/#authorization-request-p-6 was that `state` was still required, so I can't log in. Haven't dug into the OAuth PKCE specs, so I don't know if that's an oversight or not.
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> okay the one thing of Sele I have working (lol) https://sele.jalcine.dev/test
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> please break it
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> lol I just saw that XSS test 😛
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> hmm okay might need to run rep-hcard on URLs
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gRegor Worked, showed my site is using latest IndieAuth
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> hehe I can see a case for not having it on your homepage and only on your rep h-card
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> nice! the less info, the more okay things are
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gRegor Is it supposed to show my h-card stuff too?
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gRegor My rep h-card should be on homepage
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> not yet - that's part of another test I want to add; to attempt sign in and remotely show the info from a `profile` request
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gRegor Cool
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> I was thinking about running the rep h-card on the returned URL
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gRegor makes sense
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gRegor ibc is doing that for profile name and photo now, if no `profile` response
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gRegor No IndieAuth profile response, that is
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> that's a good idea (and I could catch that maybe as a hint to the person)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> I know that one thing I do want is a per-client profile response
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> is there a way to get a human friendly name of an issuer for IndieAuth? I'm thinking of doing a h-app parse of the `issuer` field
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> that way, Sele can say "Taproot is providing IndieAuth for you" (a bit of an that it's using the right thing)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> *an affordable
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> *affordance! lol
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gRegor issuer usually being the personal site, I wouldn't expect to find any h-app
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> oh really? I figured that it'd be the name of the IndieAuth server (from https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/#indieauth-server-metadata)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> hm, I can fall back on rep h-card if not found
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gRegor Right, but that metadata is on the personal website, e.g. https://gregorlove.com/indieauth-metadata-endpoint/?pretty=1
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gRegor Or is Sele handling this as a service for people?
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> it'd be a service for people!
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gRegor ahh, gotcha
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> but I can also see the case of those who have it in-built reporting themselves
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gRegor If it's for this Sele test tool, I guess most people would be entering personal URLs though?
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> oh so lemme back up, lol
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gRegor Sorry, I'm probably missing something about Sele :)
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> so when you visit https://sele.jalcine.dev/test?me=https%3A%2F%2Fgregorlove.com
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> the blue is reporting the value of `issuer` for that URL, not the one entered
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[jamietanna] Sorry gRegor yep that's my bad! Should be deployed in the next couple of mins :crossed_fingers::skin-tone-4:
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> if someone was using a in-built solution, I can see it setting `issuer` to one's site
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> but if someone's like using [jamietanna]'s solution, https://sele.jalcine.dev/test?me=https%3A%2F%2Fjvt.me would show a different URL since it's a separate tool
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> I'm wondering if I can get a name for such a tool to make that more clear
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IWDiscordRelay <j​acky#7226> falling back to the URL is okay for me
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gRegor Gotcha, makes sense
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angelo has anyone implemented a device flow on their indieauth server? https://www.oauth.com/oauth2-servers/device-flow/authorization-request/ starts with what looks like a POST to the auth server's token endpoint. would it be correct to kick off the flow with a `device_endpoint` URL in my indieauth-metadata file instead?
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jamietanna Not yet angelo but I'm interested in doing it :)
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jamietanna gRegor lemme know if editor.tanna.dev works for you, and sorry for the very clunky experience, I'd built it as a hacky solution for me - with longer term hopes to clean it up to be more usable for folks, but been a busy couple of months so lower on the priority
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jamietanna Welcome any feedback :)
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gRegor jamietanna, no worries! I was just poking around other clients since micropublish.net wasn't loading for me
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gRegor Totally understand /life_happens
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gRegor Nice, I get to my authorization screen now
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[schmarty] angelo: i made an indieauth proxy that does the device flow parts. source on glitch! https://veil-mirror.glitch.me/
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[schmarty] oop here's that source https://veil-mirror.glitch.me/
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gRegor And signed in! I'll need to add q=properties support on my end
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Loqi Bimini
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[schmarty] argh https://glitch.com/edit/#!/veil-mirror
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gRegor Or maybe just the post-types in q=config
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gRegor jamietanna++
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Loqi jamietanna has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (12 in all channels)
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jamietanna woop :)
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[tantek] wow a #! URL, been a while since I saw one of those
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mro tantek, you say you tried bookmarklets and add-ons - I think they're inevitable. Is there a write-up of your findings?
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@nathanpc RT @mxbck@front-end.social Do you collect webmentions on your site? I like them, but it can be hard to filter them and see what's going on. I made this free tool to analyze and chart webmentions that you can use to see monthly … https://front-end.social/@mxbck/109377803509920444 (twitter.com/_/status/1594444539325870080)
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[jamietanna] Has anyone looked into updating webmention.io to understand `follow-of`? Seeing notifications come in from Mastodon as a `mention-of` right now
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[snarfed] https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/117
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Loqi [EdwardHinkle] #117 Feature request: Add support for follow posts
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[jamietanna] Thanks, I thought I'd seen it before
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