#dev 2022-12-05

2022-12-05 UTC
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] I don't think that's a fair interpretation. Mastodon wanted a "content warning" feature in UI, there was nothing to represent it in AS2/AP, so they rather than attempt to extend AS2 to add a content-warning field (using the completely untested @/context LD/namespaces mechanism) they decided to re-purpose the existing "summary" property instead.
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[tantek] oh gosh good find [snarfed]. those minutes of the socialCG meeting are quite damning indeed
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[catgirlinspace] i've seen people suggest it should be called content wrapper instead, which i like.
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sknebel https://hachyderm.io/@danderson/109459311884227844
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Loqi [preview] [Dave Anderson] Every time the activitystreams core and vocab spec say "we left the semantics of these bytes completely unspecified on purpose", I die a little inside. In practice this seems to mean "today's most popular implementation owns the semantics, and should...
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aaronpk heh https://hachyderm.io/@danderson/109459357970374302
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Loqi [preview] [Dave Anderson] ... And now I discover my thoughts broadly match the Diaspora project's critique of this constellation of specs. Hm.
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@cagrimmett Does anyone using #WordPress want to move away from Jetpack likes but preserve them for old posts as webmention-style likes? If so, let's chat. I have some code I'd like help testing before I release it. (twitter.com/_/status/1599633772127072259)
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[KevinMarks] a funny looking signed assertion protocol https://github.com/jcushman/sparkleid
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Loqi [preview] [jcushman] sparkleid: Experiment in cross-account identity proof.
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[jacky] ooh this introduced me to tweetnacl
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[jacky] heh tbh I don't think this encoding is _that_ much of an issue https://github.com/jcushman/sparkleid#encoding-format
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Loqi [preview] [jcushman] sparkleid: Experiment in cross-account identity proof.
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[jacky] tbh I could see it being built into something like a QR code
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[jacky] and that led me to https://saltpack.org/
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[jacky] oh tweetnacl is really tiny https://tweetnacl.cr.yp.to/
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[jacky] like 100 tweets
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[jacky] lol https://tweetnacl.cr.yp.to/20140427/tweets
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[jacky] is this an exhaustive list of things to be returned in a token verification response?
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[jacky] https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/#access-token-verification-response
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[jacky] I tend to mimic the same response as the token redemption flow for token verification if it's active
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[tantek] AS << AS2 Criticism: Unspecified semantics leads to de facto semantics definition by largest implementation(s): https://hachyderm.io/@danderson/109459311884227844
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Loqi ok, I added "AS2 Criticism: Unspecified semantics leads to de facto semantics definition by largest implementation(s): https://hachyderm.io/@danderson/109459311884227844" to the "See Also" section of /ActivityStreams https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84912&oldid=84904
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[tantek] AS2 << ^ https://hachyderm.io/@ewenmcneill@cloudisland.nz/109459750261035043
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Loqi ok, I added "^ https://hachyderm.io/@ewenmcneill@cloudisland.nz/109459750261035043" to the "See Also" section of /ActivityStreams https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=84913&oldid=84912
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[KevinMarks] Did we already have https://github.com/dariusk/express-activitypub
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Loqi [preview] [dariusk] express-activitypub: A very simple reference implementation of an ActivityPub server using Express.js
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[KevinMarks] https://mastodon.social/@filippo/109462202987851787
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Loqi [preview] [Filippo Valsorda 🦊:calculator:] Sigh. The architecture of the fediverse is even more hostile to self-hosting than I thought.I already knew you can't have multiple identity domains (the ones in the username) hosted at the same instance.TIL that while Mastodon considers the identity ...
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sknebel not sure how "self-hosting" plays into it?
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sknebel the described problem seems more to be with not selfhosting?
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[snarfed]2 also his concerns seem a bit overstated, Bridgy Fed is an existence proof to the contrary
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sknebel as I understand it the concern is that at least some applications will tie snarfed.org@snarfed.org to bridgy-fed, and if you replace bridgy fed with something else they wont accept that thats the same account
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[jacky] which makes sense (b/c of keys and stuff, IIRC)?
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sknebel but true, bridgy fed is a counter-example for the first claim "you can't have multiple identity domains (the ones in the username) hosted at the same instance."
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sknebel [jacky]: why should it be impossible to move keys?
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[snarfed]2 right, you should be able to migrate by just serving different WebFinger. bringing the same key pair would help, but afaik not strictly necessary
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[jacky] oh see I thought that it was
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[jacky] moving the keys
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sknebel [snarfed]2: thats the second part - that implementations dont care about webfinger (since AP doesnt either) and instead remember the url it points to
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sknebel which presumably is the https://fed.brid.gy/<domain> part
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sknebel not the subject?
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[snarfed]2 for backward looking data, maybe yes, but hopefully you can still migrate to a different actor URL going forward?
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[snarfed]2 we haven't tried much, not sure
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gRegor Heh, just tried adding a Goodread comment "originally published [my link]", but they block links
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gRegor "We couldn't post your comment. For the safety of our members, links to other sites are not allowed in comments. Please edit your comment and try again."
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gRegor I get it, though, moderation nightmare probably
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gRegor Ooh, cool, /read posts federated to Mastodon pretty well. Bridgy Fed dropped the <cite> and <a href> for the book, but left the title as plain text though. not bad!
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[snarfed]2 s/Bridgy Fed/Mastodon/ 😎
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[snarfed]2 (looking at https://fed.brid.gy/log?start_time=1670272189&key=https://gregorlove.com/2022/12/want-to-read-the-art-of-solitude/%20https://xoxo.zone/inbox&module= , the cite and a tags are in the HTML content we federated)
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gRegor oh, right! sorry
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gRegor I'm still just impressed they handle <a href> at all, nice to be able to have links with text
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[snarfed]2 right!
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[jacky] what are consent screens
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "consent screens" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "consent screens is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jacky] consent screens is /consent_screen
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Loqi ok
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[KevinMarks] can you federate a <details><summary> to mastodon? That would be amusing as an alternative CW
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[tantek] ^ I like that approach as a fallback [KevinMarks]
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gRegor Heh, BF send the HTML but Mastodon just does plain text
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gRegor https://xoxo.zone/@gregorlove.com@gregorlove.com/109463524275850926 (if you're logged in)
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Loqi [preview] [gRegor Morrill] Debugging: Testing if federation to Mastodon will include the details/summary HTML elements
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gRegor nice, Loqi!
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gRegor So based on my minimal posting experience, seems Mastodon only keeps <p> and <a> so far
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gRegor Also found the CSS for my <summary> is lacking, it removes the arrow
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[tantek] gRegor, could file an issue to request adding details/summary to the allow list
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