#dev 2022-12-06

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[KevinMarks] Is this a bridgy use case, or is he wanting something else? https://mastodon.cloud/@anildash/109463814243959011
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Loqi [preview] [@anildash] Is there a service that will host a single Mastodon account for me (not an entire instance) but let me alias it to my own domain? I don't want to run an instance, but I would like to control my address/handle.
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aaronpk depends on how much of mastodon he wants
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aaronpk wow there's an old issue for exactly the feature https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/2668
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Loqi [preview] [Gargron] #2668 Multi-tenancy with custom domains
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[snarfed]2 [KevinMarks] sounds like BF yes?
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aaronpk not if he wants to also be able to follow people from that account and use mastodon to read their posts right?
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[snarfed]2 everything except "use mastodon" in that sentence
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[snarfed]2 so yeah if that's the strict req't list then true, no
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aaronpk what happens if you follow someone from a bridgy fed acct?
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M3bob[m] I wonder what he means by "I don't want to run an instance." Seems to me there's a broad gap involved between "I don't want to deal with any hosting aspects myself at all" and "I don't mind setting up _something_, I just don't want a whole mastodon instance just for me." Depending on what he's after, what he's willing to do, how thorough he wants the result to be... it _seems_ to me like he's got a range of options from
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M3bob[m] https://domenicoluciani.com/2022/11/19/how-to-create-mastodon-alias.html to bridgy fed to microblog.pub.
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M3bob[m] But I might be projecting a little bit since I've spent roughly the past three weeks pondering stuff like that myself after having spent roughly the last eight years not getting around to any of it. :D
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[snarfed]2 aaronpk: not sure what you mean? you can follow via BF, and then BF serves a feed of your followings' posts that you can read in any reader
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[snarfed]2 https://fed.brid.gy/docs#read
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aaronpk oh cool i must have missed that feature
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[snarfed]2 https://fed.brid.gy/docs#follow
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[snarfed]2 yeah all in the recent sprint
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aaronpk snarfed++
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[snarfed]2 it's a much more complete experience for participating in the fediverse now. still requires a decent amount of IndieWeb - u-follow-of, webmentions, social reader - but definitely more fully usable now
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aaronpk totally! that's great
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gRegor it's working pretty well for me so far! snafed++
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gRegor snarfed++ oops
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[KevinMarks] So, Anil could build that up on glitch?
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gRegor Minimal to federate is redirect some .well-knowns to bridgy fed URLs, mf2 in your post, link to fed.brid.gy, then send a webmention to fed.brid.gy
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[jacky] four things, that's not so bad
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[tantek] I think what anil wants is the whole UI for creating/posting to somewhere using his domain, that also interacts with Mastodon, but not having to admintax the install/backend
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[tantek] like a managed WordPress except with all the IndieWeb/ActivityPub plugins installed and setup with an IndieWeb friendly theme
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[tantek] At least he didn't say, what was the prompt? "Solve this for me?" or something like that?
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[jacky] heh
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[KevinMarks] so he wants micro.blog then
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[tantek] goodpoint
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[tantek] that should literally be the reply. pay micro.blog for an excellent hosted experience, and get all the fediverse interop. However, does micro.blog allow you to follow random fediverse accounts?
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[jacky] That's a good question
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[jacky] I _think_ Manton mentioned some work around that
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[tantek] I think Anil wants to *read* others posts also as part of this "solution"
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[tantek] like he wants his own site as his integrated posting/reading experience (something we've talked about for many many years)
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gRegor Seems like it does: https://www.manton.org/2022/11/30/following-mastodon-accounts.html
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Loqi [preview] [Manton Reece] Following Mastodon accounts from Micro.blog almost feels like I’ve re-joined Twitter. It’s great to see posts from people I haven’t kept up with in years. The main downside: too many hashtags! Maybe I built Micro.blog just to escape from hashta...
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[snarfed]2 manton++ cool!
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[snarfed]2 yeah arguably micro.blog is the answer if you're ok with it being your web site, BF is th answer if you want to keep your existing web site
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[tantek] lol "too many hashtags"
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gRegor [manton] Did your homepage lose microformats2? I had subscribed in Monocle to the mf2 feed at some point and noticed I wasn't seeing posts anymore.
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[manton] 🙂
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gRegor Can subscribe with another of course, just wanted to mention it
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[manton] gRegor: Oops, it looks like I did… Lemme fix that.
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[manton] I made some theme changes recently and may have messed something up.
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gRegor It does feel fun to follow people on Mastodon. Made me wonder if Follow Friday is/will be a popular thing again to help discover more people.
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[jacky] I have seen some facets of Follow Friday happening on there!
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[tantek] that's a phrase I haven't heard in years
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[tw2113_Slack_] oh my
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[tantek] nah, that one I see all the time from George Takei
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@t Two days ago my #BridgyFed followers crossed 8-bits: https://fed.brid.gy/user/tantek.com Signs of #TwitterMigration: my prev post had ~2x more #fediverse responses than Twitter, a ~500:1 difference per follower (having ~250x more Twitter followers). Many ... https://tantek.com/t5NC1 (twitter.com/_/status/1600246000819765248)
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[tantek] is BridgyFed a dev keyword? or is fediverse? (no way because we'd be seeing lots)
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[snarfed]2 the existing bridgy/brid.gy keywords probably already pick it up
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[tantek] excellent
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[snarfed]2 also whee, maybe I get to start thinking about scaling, BF delivered that post of yours to 78 inboxes
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[snarfed]2 guess it still works fine though. the webmention trigger is high latency since it's synchronous, but otherwise maybe ok
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[tantek] that must be using sharedInbox tho right since BridgyFed says I have 262 followers
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[snarfed]2 yup
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[snarfed]2 yeah that original wm to BF to deliver to those 78 inboxes took almost 2m. kinda long
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[tantek] What happens when there are followers across thousands of instances?
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aaronpk yeah....
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[snarfed]2 🙉
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[snarfed]2 (ok ok fine yes the answer is an async task queue like Bridgy uses)
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aaronpk my followers are across 500 different sharedInboxes now
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[snarfed]2 https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/335
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Loqi [preview] [snarfed] #335 Switch to an async task queue
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btrem I'm having trouble running the python mf parser locally. The repo's README.md is missing some instructions, e.g., "install the dependencies: TODO". Is there any place I can get some help with this?
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[snarfed]2 Does pip install not install them automatically?
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btrem No. There are conflicts with requirements.txt. I am on the cusp of creating an issue, but I'm fumbling, so I don't know how valuable that will be.
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btrem @[snarfed]2: That is to say, the README doesn't say what to do. I tried `pip install -r requirements.txt` and got dependency errors.
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btrem There are other missing sections: "Start the server: TODO". :(
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btrem See for yourself: https://github.com/microformats/microformats-parser-website-python/blob/master/README.md
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[snarfed]2 Oh I believe you
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[snarfed]2 Ohh that's a web site, not mf2py itself. Ok then, I'm less familiar with that
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gRegor capjamesg or sknebel might be able to help