barnaby“Anyone making a bet on learning Pinafore’s tech stack is investing in a dead framework, so it’s not very attractive for new maintainers.” also does not sound like much fun to maintain
[manton]I think reaching out to Mastodon client developers to also support Micropub is a good first step. This is kind of the approach I’ve had with Micro.blog apps… Yes, most of them require signing in to Micro.blog, but after you do you can set the app to post to any Micropub server. It’s kind of a hybrid app that eventually could be fully Micropub + Microsub.
[manton]In the same way, Mastodon API clients could layer in Micropub as a start, rather than adopt ActivityPub Client to Server which seems like a dead-end. Kind of damning that Mastodon invented its own API instead of adopting C2S.
aaronpkwhereas it adopted the S2S part of AP because the value was in being able to handle limited-audience posts in a way that was not clear with RSS and Salmon
starrwulfe[m][manton]: I agree. Maybe need to just get Eugene in a detailed chat session to see if it can start there. Matt Mullenweg too. There’s real value in supporting both specs at the same time everywhere. Imagine a world where sites just talk with each other without friction from needing to “register/sign in”.
[tantek]is anyone seeing the "RSS amnesia" effect in their Mastodon clients / web views when I update my posts? Or are your clients / web views strictly keeping with time (published time) ordered timeline so it doesn't matter how many times I edit my posts, they don't pop-up to the top?
[tantek]and I wonder if this is a strategy to back-populate an instance when the first person from that instance follows someone, since Mastodon shows remote profiles as "empty" to start with after the first person from an instance follows them
barnabyI definitely want to make a system where rather than auto-expanding yt links into an embedded player, they first get replaced with a still poster frame, and the embedded player gets loaded in when someone clicks on it
aaronpkmy current video priority on my site is getting a workflow set up to post videos quickly from my phone. ideally chopping up the video into HLS segments rather than just one big mp4 file
barnabybtw aaronpk (or others), do you have an estimate on how tricky it’d be to get some sort of (maybe owncast-powered) indie streaming thing set up so that when I start a stream, it pops up as a post at the top of my feed with the stream embedded, and when I finish the post automatically gets updated to embed the VOD?
superkuhI wish browsers could handle embedded mp4 subtitles. It's the only thing I really miss in 'web optimized' mp4 versus actual streaming interfaces and formats.
aaronpkin theory owncast will support recordings but they are currently doing a rewrite of the web interface so everything else has been lower priority
barnabyand presumably you use other streaming services instead for the UI/network effects/trouble+cost-free hosting? curious to know what the pain points were
aaronpki also don't have so many viewers that it would be impossible to self-host either. it's only a challenge once you start getting into the thousands of viewers. but even then a simple CDN can solve it
aaronpkbut yes apple location services is not purely GPS or cell tower or wifi, it's Apple's own implementation of combining all the data into a single "location service". you can neither choose nor see the underlying data
@t https://jhey.dev/ (@jhey@front-end.social) hey! thanks for the kind words.
Two sides to supporting #webmentions:
1. Sending: https://webmention.app/ is excellent, by https://remysharp.com/ (@rem@front-end.social), or ...
https://tantek.com/t5Nm1 (twitter.com/_/status/1612692567505895424)
[tantek] FYI, for anyone looking for a well-built posting client to add Micropub to, to maintain: https://nolanlawson.com/2023/01/09/retiring-pinafore/
[manton] I think reaching out to Mastodon client developers to also support Micropub is a good first step. This is kind of the approach I’ve had with Micro.blog apps… Yes, most of them require signing in to Micro.blog, but after you do you can set the app to post to any Micropub server. It’s kind of a hybrid app that eventually could be fully Micropub + Microsub.
starrwulfe[m] [manton]: I agree. Maybe need to just get Eugene in a detailed chat session to see if it can start there. Matt Mullenweg too. There’s real value in supporting both specs at the same time everywhere. Imagine a world where sites just talk with each other without friction from needing to “register/sign in”.
superkuh piped.video is nice
aaronpk hmm found a plugin for videojs that does chapters https://www.nuevodevel.com/nuevo/showcase/chapters
barnaby btw aaronpk (or others), do you have an estimate on how tricky it’d be to get some sort of (maybe owncast-powered) indie streaming thing set up so that when I start a stream, it pops up as a post at the top of my feed with the stream embedded, and when I finish the post automatically gets updated to embed the VOD?
@MikeWMerritt ↩️ One more time now that I know http://Brid.gy is importing other types of comments. (twitter.com/_/status/1612936066717155330)
@Lucian2drei Bridgy #SocialMedia via http://twinybots.ch https://brid.gy/ (twitter.com/_/status/1612356049217912838)
[KevinMarks] The web location api is pretty good and gives a radius of uncertainty in metres so its a few lines of code to plot with leaflet.