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[0x3b0b] I have only spot-checked from the fe.disroot.org Akkoma instance, where I am logged in, so far. There, I am seeing links that when moused over look like they are going to go to the tag page on my site, but when clicked they go to that tag on Fedisroot (and so far I am not a fan of what the status bar shows on mouseover being an external link and the actual effect of clicking being an internal link, that's just weird - maybe it'll grow
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[0x3b0b] on me).
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[tantek] that is strange behavior indeed!
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[tantek] seems like the federating of hashtags needs its own spec because we are running into so many interop / weirdness problems
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gRegor Proposed as an AS2 extension in 2017 but no action since, unfortunately https://github.com/swicg/general/issues/6
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Loqi [preview] [Gargron] #6 Hashtag representation
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gRegor https://www.w3.org/wiki/Activity_Streams_extensions#as:Hashtag_type
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[tantek] hashtag << Brainstorming: Needs a spec for how to federate, across any kind of system, regardless of transport (e.g. ActivityPub, Webmention). How should hashtags be detected/discovered by a hosting site (e.g. in a [[reply-context]], [[comments]] display, [[repost]], [[quote]] post, online [[social reader]]), including both in plain text, and hashtag links? When should a receiving site replace the hashtag link in content displayed
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[tantek] from elsewhere with a local-to-the-site hashtag link? See also: https://github.com/swicg/general/issues/6
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Loqi ok, I added "Brainstorming: Needs a spec for how to federate, across any kind of system, regardless of transport (e.g. ActivityPub, Webmention). How should hashtags be detected/discovered by a hosting site (e.g. in a [[reply-context]], [[comments]] display, [[repost]], [[quote]] post, online [[social reader]]), including both in plain text, and hashtag links? When should a receiving site replace the hashtag link in content displayed" to the "See Also" section of /hashtags https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=87111&oldid=87098
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Loqi [preview] [Gargron] #6 Hashtag representation
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[tantek] gRegor, sadly, the link to the toot in that issue is since 404 đŸ˜•
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gRegor I looked it up on IA a while back, didn't have a lot of additional info
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gRegor https://web.archive.org/web/20170716044005/https://mastodon.social/users/Gargron/updates/3288643
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Loqi [preview] [Eugen] @cwebber i had another concern: OStatus URIs of the type tag:example.com;12345;foobar are not represented in ActivityPub, but present in Mastodon. How to avoid duplicates between things Mastodon sees via AP vs what it sees via OStatus?
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gRegor That swicwg github org appears to only have two (public?) members, so maybe that's why there hasn't been much activity.
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[tantek] hashtag << ^ Possibly of some historical interest / background for Mastodon’s hashtag federation implementation: https://web.archive.org/web/20170716044005/https://mastodon.social/users/Gargron/updates/3288643
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Loqi ok, I added "^ Possibly of some historical interest / background for Mastodon’s hashtag federation implementation: https://web.archive.org/web/20170716044005/https://mastodon.social/users/Gargron/updates/3288643" to the "See Also" section of /hashtags https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=87113&oldid=87112
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[tantek] hashtag << ^ prior art: INFORMATIONAL (not standard) RFC: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4151 for a "tag:" scheme. Possibly useful for extracting/re-using concept/structure (though likely not overall syntax).
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Loqi ok, I added "^ prior art: INFORMATIONAL (not standard) RFC: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4151 for a "tag:" scheme. Possibly useful for extracting/re-using concept/structure (though likely not overall syntax)." to the "See Also" section of /hashtags https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=87114&oldid=87113
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