#dev 2023-05-20
2023-05-20 UTC
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bkil According to your experience, how do web search indexers tokenize URLs on a given page? Can they also index each word within it? For example, in PostgreSQL full text search used by Synapse, the indexer fails to pick up words within a URL, despite making the URL itself searchable in a limited way.
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gRegor Hm, the wikipedia rel-me isn't showing up for me even after a while adding it to my preferences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GregorLove
# vladimyr if anyone decides to play with bluesky using remote vm/container solutions save yourself some time and avoid stackblitz and codesandbox
# vladimyr former doesn't have safe way to store secrets and leaving your (app) password inside code is a bad idea, latter instantiates microVMs inside network range blocked by bluesky aka you won't be able to create session
# vladimyr github codespaces seems to work
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[schmarty] capjamesg: this example from the mf2.link wiki page is throwing a 'cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'display_name') error: https://mf2.link/mastodon?url=https://indieweb.social/@capjamesg/110326728064487846%20and%20https://mf2.link/mastodon?url=https://toot.cafe/@calumryan/110355115177267160
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[KevinMarks] [snarfed] if I open a http://granary.io link in chrome, it looks like the feed has mojibake in, but fetching it with curl looks right - any idea why chrome is not seeing the encoding? https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=rss&url=https://bsky.link/feed?user=manton.org
# [KevinMarks] you're returning `'*content-type*: application/rss+xml'` - should that be `'*content-type*: application/rss+xml; charset=utf-8'`
# [KevinMarks] right, I think chrome uses default encoding, which is win 1252
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# [KevinMarks] there used to be a pref for this, which is now hidden
# [KevinMarks] JSON is utf8 by default
# [KevinMarks] you can do that as an alternative afaik
# [KevinMarks] LGTM
# vladimyr How about styling it with xslt too? https://github.com/genmon/aboutfeeds/blob/main/tools/pretty-feed-v3.xsl
# vladimyr This is what you get by including ^ transform https://interconnected.org/home/feed
# vladimyr Um, yes and no, depends on end user flow 🙃
# vladimyr They might simply leverage autodiscovery but they also might try to preview feed first and then manually copy url into their reader
# [snarfed] I've found that it works better for everyone involved to make dedicated services for that instead, eg https://bluesky-atom.appspot.com/
# vladimyr Fair enough 👍 I also think that shoud be user agent's responsibility. IMHO Vivaldi does it right https://vivaldi.com/features/feed-reader/#productbox-2-2
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Loqi [preview] [Jon McCullough] https://vivaldi.com/features/feed-reader/
# [KevinMarks] the usecase of someone else's posts as a feed is not supported by bluesky-atom though
# [KevinMarks] ah, so that's a warning for bsky.link
# [KevinMarks] would it be OK to link to https://bluesky-atom.appspot.com/ if thery're looking for that usecase?
# [snarfed] fortunately the easy fix is to leave the following fan-in to bsky itself and use eg https://bluesky-atom.appspot.com/ to serve a single timeline feed per consuming user
# [KevinMarks] maybe I should send a PR to http://bsky.app to add mf2 to their static pages
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# vladimyr That fanout issue could be solved by rotating between selfhosted instances
# vladimyr https://farside.link/nitter/pfrazee/rss
# vladimyr Although I'm not quite sure how tolerant today's rss readers are when it comes to rotating feed source 🤔
# vladimyr I guess it is better for me stop that thought experiment before I accidentally step into DW's territory 🙃
# [snarfed] and again the mismatch between dev tool vs end user expectations. I'm fine with caching aggressively and doing other things to scale more easily in end user services like https://bluesky-atom.appspot.com/ , but those often confuse developers, so I don't necessarily want them in granray
# vladimyr Wonder how long will nitter last...
# vladimyr I had a crazy shower thought of attaching mastodon api to nitter
# Aidhan curious, can you elaborate on this apocalypse?
# vladimyr It would be readonly ofc but in theory it could enable unified timeline in multiaccount masto clients
# Aidhan thanks
# Aidhan interesting
# vladimyr Technically something like that could be done for bluesky too, headless masto api to bsky api adapter running somewhere on the server
# vladimyr Preferably selfhosted
# vladimyr With r/w support
# [KevinMarks] Revive silo.pub for bsky and mastodon?
# [snarfed] this is https://github.com/videah/skybridge , right?
# vladimyr TBH I don't know what silopub is/was but I guess it's the same thing with masto api swapped with micropub?
# vladimyr [snarfed]: wow, exactly!
# vladimyr Too bad my dartlang foo is nonexistent
# vladimyr And https://github.com/Treeki/BirdBridge cited as inspiration that does same thing for Twitter
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# vladimyr They might switch to readonly mode leveraging graphql api
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# vladimyr capjamesg: which version of node does bsky.link run on?
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[tantek] Make http://mf2.link/URL work without needing any query params by auto-detecting Mastodon profile vs permalink vs BlueSky profile vs BlueSky permalink