#dev 2023-05-21

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[schmarty] oof! https://help.glitch.com/kb/article/9-adding-a-custom-domain/
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gRegor [schmarty], I got "invalid_session The session was missing data. Ensure that you are initializing the session before using this library" when I tried to sign in via https://xn--sr8hvo.ws/. Noticed the domain switch to webring.bayside.pub so guessing that's why. I can sign in on the latter OK.
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[schmarty] oop let me make sure i got my configs correct
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[schmarty] i did not have my configs correct!
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gRegor After I signed in I used "check for updated profile" button since it had an old photo, didn't pick up my new photo and has "You currently have no profile information.
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gRegor " IWM finds the representative h-card
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[schmarty] the app thought the dev site URL was the canonical one. the login issue should be fixed.
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gRegor Ok, so the previous link is still the one to use?
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[schmarty] https://🕸.ws/ yes
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[schmarty] https://xn--sr8hvo.ws/ if we must
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gRegor oops, lost my webring links on the homepage too
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gRegor Windows here, typing emojis is hard XD. I just followed the link in your post :)
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[schmarty] "oops, lost my webring links on the homepage too" i think that could mean a couple of things.
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[schmarty] do you mean the directory?
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gRegor Oh, sorry, that was entirely me on my site I mean.
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[schmarty] hahaha, ok.
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Loqi awesome
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gRegor Let me sign in again now and see if it will find my rep h-card
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[schmarty] re:profile finding - hooray! that means something is different between the PHP mf2 parsing ecosystem and the nodeJS one and you might get to help me debug and fix it 😅
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gRegor Sign in worked!
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gRegor Hooray! happy to help break things, haha
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[schmarty] yay sign-in! thanks for finding that little goof-up. gRegor++
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Loqi gRegor has 28 karma in this channel over the last year (88 in all channels)
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vladimyr capjamesg: this is what I did so far https://diffy.org/diff/41d2bbf7aa7f5
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vladimyr take a look and let me know if you are interested in direction I went with
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vladimyr also ignore the formatting, this codebase practically begs for eslint/prettier setup
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[tantek] some good critiques in here of various "decentralized" approaches (and since that tends to descend quickly into plumbing A vs B, posting here) https://www.wired.com/story/the-hidden-dangers-of-the-decentralized-web/
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[jeremycherfas] Looks good @schmarty. I dont have a link on my home page, so it doesn’t find that, but the link on other pages works fine.
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[tantek] Previously: https://rhiaro.co.uk/2016/11/decentralisation-considered-harmful
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[tantek] not sure if rhiaro is still in this channel, rhiaro, if you are, only took 6.5 years for WIRED to write an article like yours 🙂
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> vladimyr will review today!
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IWDiscordRelay <c​apjamesg#4492> I haven’t configured a JS linter in a few years. I’ll look into it!
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[KevinMarks] That's mainly a critique of web3 bs, not the web.
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shreyanjain[m] its behind a paywall for me, anyone have a summary?
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[KevinMarks] 12ft works on it
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capjamesg Does anyone know why a HTML attribute wouldn't be available in a custom component?
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capjamesg Fixed!
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capjamesg Now, I can't figure out why a fetch().json() isn't processing.
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capjamesg The JSON is valid (I validated it!) but an error is raised.
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capjamesg [tantek] I don't think there is an easy way to automatically infer if a site is a Mastodon instance?
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capjamesg [schmarty] The mf2.link changes _should_ be fixed.
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capjamesg *bugs
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[KevinMarks] Are fragments and ~ still the best way to do linkable pure css tabs, or does the has: selector give a better way?
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[KevinMarks] This technique https://www.kallmanation.com/building-linkable-tabs-with-only-css
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vladimyr shreyanjain: as [KevinMarks] said you can use 12ft.io, see it through archive.is and as a special bonus meet your new friend :D
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vladimyr No script as a service or as I like to call it no popup as a service :D
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vladimyr https://noscript.it/?p=0#https://www.wired.com/story/the-hidden-dangers-of-the-decentralized-web/
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vladimyr capjamesg: I can help you with configuring eslint if you like
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vladimyr There is a way to determine if site is masto or other fedi sw instance, .well-known/nodeinfo if I'm not mistaken
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capjamesg Sure thing!
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capjamesg vladimyr Sure!
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vladimyr From https://indieweb.social/.well-known/nodeinfo to https://indieweb.social/nodeinfo/2.0
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vladimyr https://ttm.sh/Wxp.jpeg
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vladimyr Be aware that you need to factor in fork names (glitch, glitch-soc?) and sometime name field containes other stuff too so it is not simple equals check
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vladimyr If I remember correctly it is sort like useragent header in browsers
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vladimyr But why would you do it anyway
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vladimyr Instead of doing all that dance to determine whether you can talk to server using public masto api
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vladimyr Simply ask straight for activity json with appropriate header accept: activity+json and check return content type
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vladimyr Check out how masto/fedifeed does it https://git.froth.zone/sam/fedifeed/src/branch/master/lib/convert.js
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vladimyr And you get compatibility with misskey/calckey, friendica and whole swath of others for free
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vladimyr e.g. this is how you get post and author info for this cat picture https://indieweb.social/@jamesecradockjr/110406354070182641
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vladimyr https://ttm.sh/Wxj.jpeg
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Loqi [preview] [jamesecradockjr] Cat picture. https://cdn.masto.host/indiewebsocial/media_attachments/files/110/406/353/782/149/126/original/6a28111ea75620a7.jpg
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vladimyr That's also what aaronpk does in xray
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vladimyr https://github.com/aaronpk/XRay/blob/main/lib/XRay/Fetcher.php#L69-L110
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vladimyr Favoring mf2+json if it is available
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vladimyr And recognizing returned format from Content-Type response header
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vladimyr To parse content-type in node use https://github.com/jshttp/content-type
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vladimyr (used by express)
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Loqi [preview] [jshttp] content-type: Create and parse HTTP Content-Type header
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vladimyr https://devdocs.io/express/index#req.is
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capjamesg Gotcha.
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vladimyr capjamesg: if you have any other questions ask in dm cause I don't want to spam channel with my /beautiful/ curl screenshots 🙃
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@crafty_av I got interested in ActivityPub, webmention and other open web standards around 1.5 years ago. Glad to see them now picking up a lot of steam after Twitter acquire and now that Automattic started backing it up with official WordPress compatibility development. (twitter.com/_/status/1660267273267888128)
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capjamesg Sure thing :)
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capjamesg Oh, can you message me? My IRC client doesn't show messages I have sent until the recipent sends one back; weird.
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vladimyr capjamesg: Just did, I also sometimes type blindly due to wonders of matrix bridge -.-'
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[tantek] capjamesg, domain/@user works in general with a small number of exceptions
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vladimyr ^ not supported by pleroma/akkoma
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[tantek] right, he asked about Mastodon
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[tantek] what URL patterns do pleroma/akkoma use for profiles and permalinks?
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vladimyr domain/users/:username
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vladimyr which is I believe what mastodon does too after initial domain/@username redirect
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vladimyr Actually it is other way around
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vladimyr https://ttm.sh/WxY.jpeg
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[schmarty] gRegor: i hadn't realized we had a php representative h-card parser and that it's used by the php indieauth client lib. updated webring to use that and it finds your card info just fine.
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[schmarty] aaaaaaaaaaaand i ran into some unexpected things. PRs made and reviews requested for phpunit modernizing (https://github.com/indieweb/representative-h-card-php/pull/2) and allowing `http://example.com` to match `http://example.com/` (https://github.com/indieweb/representative-h-card-php/pull/3)
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Loqi [preview] [martymcguire] #2 phpunit 9 compatibility
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[schmarty] also this fun: https://github.com/indieweb/representative-h-card-php/issues/4
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Loqi [preview] [martymcguire] #4 PHP8+ `parse_url` treats empty vs missing differently for query and fragment
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[schmarty] gRegor: another clue for me to think about. http://indiewebify.me uses barnaby's php-mf-cleaner to find representative h cards. https://github.com/barnabywalters/php-mf-cleaner/blob/main/src/functions.php
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gRegor [schmarty], yeah, I've mostly used Barnaby's and suspect it has newer commits -- I remember making some the last couple years. I'll take a look at the rep h-card PR.
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gRegor Hm, wait. IBC is using php-indieauth and has been finding my rep h-card
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gRegor Oh nevermind, I misread. You weren't using the rep h-card lib and are now. Gotcha.
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[aciccarello] I've been thinking about js utils for microformats. I'm not sure what would be best
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[schmarty] gRegor++ thanks so much for taking a look!! i was grateful to find that this library exists! indieweb-php++
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gRegor Commented. Broader discussion, but makes me wonder if we could reduce this duplication? Maybe php-mf-cleaner could call in representative-hcard-php for that functionality? Dependency inception, though ("we need to go deeper").
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