#dev 2023-09-10

2023-09-10 UTC
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[tantek] hey aaronpk, does your own IRC interface for reading (others posts) / writing (to your own site) support the "< <" syntax for adding a bookmark post to your site?
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[tantek] or have you switched from your IRC UI completely to using Monocle?
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[tantek] me realizing that our "< <" Loqi command syntax here on the wiki is essentially a "bookmark this URL / note on this topic (page name)" CLI
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[tantek] here on chat*
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aaronpk I've switched to reading everything in monocle now!
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c​apjamesg Wait Monocle is your IRC client?
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[tantek] UX << 2023-09-04 Zeldman: [https://www.zeldman.com/2023/09/04/a-faster-horse/ A faster horse] <blockquote>“The user is never wrong” means, when a user snags on a part of your UX that doesn’t work for her, she’s not making a mistake, she’s doing you a favor.</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "2023-09-04 Zeldman: [https://www.zeldman.com/2023/09/04/a-faster-horse/ A faster horse] <blockquote>“The user is never wrong” means, when a user snags on a part of your UX that doesn’t work for her, she’s not making a mistake, she’s doing you a favor.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /user-experience https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=89216&oldid=83263
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[tantek] [snarfed] I hesitate to ask, because I feel bad about sending you down an unproductive rabbithole, however, did you consider adding "Solid" as a fifth column to your recent four column table of protocols? I ask because there are some pretty large claims being made about it, and as someone who takes quite the neutral pragmatic perspective of things, your evaluation in such a comparison would likely be useful/helpful.
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[tantek] Example claims here: https://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/ e.g.: "Solid technically is a new level of standard at the web layer, which adds things never put into the original spec, such as global single sign-on, universal access control, and a universal data API so that any app can store data in any storage place. Socially Solid is a movement away from much of the issues with the current WWW, and toward a world in which users are in
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[tantek] control, and empowered by large amounts of data, private, shared, and public."
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[snarfed] [tantek] interesting! I'd love to add more protocols. I honestly don't know a lot about Solid RDF etc though. if someone who does wants to propose a new column, I'd happily try vet and merge it!
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[snarfed] (and thank you for the kind words!)
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[tantek] [snarfed] I don't have a lot of depth there, but I believe the Bluesky folks included Solid in their initial comparison if existing "stacks" before they developed their protocol. It was in an early blog post I think?
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[snarfed] ok! not seeing it now, https://www.google.com/search?q=solid+site%3Ablueskyweb.xyz , https://www.google.com/search?q=solid+site%3Aatproto.com , but I believe you
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[KevinMarks] "Fifth column" is amusing there
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[KevinMarks] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column
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[snarfed] lol
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[snarfed] ohhh [tantek] probably meant the whitepaper they did comparing a bunch of different protocols. true! that was a solid read, no pun intended
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[tantek] yes that thing
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[tantek] lol [KevinMarks]
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