#dev 2024-01-03

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c​apjamesg The book is generated with pandoc: https://github.com/capjamesg/pandoc/blob/main/book.sh
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c​apjamesg I know that script doesn't look great. But it does _exactly_ what I want it to do.
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aaronpk i have a very similar looking script
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[tantek] what is pandoc
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Loqi pandoc is a format converter which supports an extreme variety of input and output formats; useful to convert from/to HTML, Markdown, XML, docx, etc https://indieweb.org/pandoc
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c​apjamesg Pandoc is rarely clean, but it is delightful in the end.
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[tantek] what is Pandoc
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Loqi pandoc is a format converter which supports a variety of input output formats, such as HTML, Markdown, XML, docx, PDF, and others, and is used by at least a few IndieWeb community members to produce & publish content in alternative formats on their personal sites https://indieweb.org/pandoc
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[tantek] better
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c​apjamesg [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 30 karma in this channel over the last year (96 in all channels)
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[tantek] [snarfed] for what personal site content (PDF?) or project/service docs do you use Pandoc? You said in chat it was part of your workflow and I just wanted to to document your example accurately: https://indieweb.org/pandoc#Ryan_Barrett
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[tantek] !tell petermolnar I inferred from chat logs your use of pandoc, but if I got it wrong please correct it! https://indieweb.org/pandoc#Peter_Molnar
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] and if anyone else here uses pandoc for producing content they publish on their site, in any way from any format to any format, please add yourself to the examples and note exactly what content you produce with pandoc and how / for what reasons and since approximately what date: https://indieweb.org/pandoc#IndieWeb_Examples
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[tantek] possibly [jeremycherfas] or sknebel?
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[snarfed] sure! mine is just markdown to ReST, will add
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[tantek] What is ReST?
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Loqi Representational State Transfer (REST) is a software design architecture used to communicate state between two systems that has no current IndieWeb adoption, likely due to its fundamental incompatibility with static sites https://indieweb.org/REST
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[tantek] Lol name collision, presumably
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Zegnat I looked at ReST at different times. I always thought it would be easier to use as a base type than Markdown because its extensibility through tags (.. tag::). But always ran into trouble parsing it with anything other than Python :(
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c​apjamesg Is ReST restructured markup?
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[tantek] !tell [snarfed] looks like syndicating replies might be broken again for me on BridgyFed. See latest reply here https://fed.brid.gy/web/tantek.com and note it was 3hrs (or more) ago and yet zero deliveries to servers (would have expected at least one) and it doesn't show up on her post either :/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[snarfed] [tantek] sorry! yeah I got pinged about that one, looks like you found a bug, crash stack trace is at the bottom of the log. will look!
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[snarfed] ReST is reStructured Text, Sphinx's input
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[snarfed] not sure if I can make a new wiki page that differs only by capitalization
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[tantek] Yeah we should make a page of the full name of ReST since that acronym came after the more well known REST
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c​apjamesg I don’t like ReST 😅
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c​apjamesg Maybe it is the “it is the thing I don’t know” effect at play.
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c​apjamesg But it felt even more complicated than markdown.
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[tantek] REST >>> ReST
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[tantek] [snarfed] should I resend a Webmention to BridgyFed?
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GWG Re the conversation from main, previously from -dev...can I create some sort of endpoint on my website that redirects to the liberachat web client?
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GWG Or install Kiwi on a site
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[tantek] GWG looks like we didn't get very far on this question in the past: https://microformats.org/wiki/irc#IRC_and_microformats
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GWG That's why I was pondering
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[tantek] it is an opportunity to research how irc: URLs work for those use-cases, experiment with such links, and document your experience
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gRegor mIRC has documentation for irc:// links, but looks like it's to connect / join a channel, not DM https://www.mirc.com/mirclink.html
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GWG And not everything registers a protocol handler
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[tantek] you mean every IRC client app? that sounds like opportunities to file bugs/feature requests
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GWG aaronpk: We both use Glowing Bear, does it have a way to register as a protocol handler?
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aaronpk it's just a website, so i don't think so
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[tantek] !tell [campegg] are you still publishing your Strava activities? Can't seem to find them at /activities and the one example permalink on in your example on the Strava page (https://indieweb.org/Strava#Cam_Pegg) seems to redirect back to your home page.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] aaonpk, gmail is just a website yet can registers as a mailto: protocol handler
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[tantek] aaronpk*
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aaronpk orly
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aaronpk well hey irc:// is in teh list https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/registerProtocolHandler
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aaronpk so that seems like an easy PR to glowing-bear
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[KevinMarks] I think gmail lobbied chrome for that ability and it got standardised later
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[tantek] nah it was there for a LONG time before gmail
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[tantek] before Chrome existed
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[tantek] what happened was the opposite, browsers tightened down which protocol handlers they would allow being registered
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[tantek] it's too bad that Google dropped support for their proprietary gtalk: handler and never added support for xmpp: tho
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[KevinMarks] also, apple proliferated protocols by insisting that each app had their own (ie not handling contention over `irc:`)
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] the history of proprietary app-specific protocols predates Apple doing so. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_URI_schemes has some
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gRegor Chrome's handler for mailto: with gmail seems finicky for me, dunno why.
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[KevinMarks] Apple's was particularly egregious https://epeus.blogspot.com/2013/06/how-apples-ios-fragmentation-problems.html#No%20App%20is%20an%20island
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GWG aaronpk: Going to try filing one? Ill +1
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gRegor What's your domain, [nsmsn]?
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[nsmsn] Hey, it's nicksimson.com
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[nsmsn] I sent an email to the webmaster@indiebookclub.biz too. Is that you, gRegor?
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gRegor That email probably isn't configured
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gRegor but yeah, indiebookclub is me
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[nsmsn] Glad I knew where to ask...So I am running my site on WordPress. Maybe I'll try signing out and back in.
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gRegor Is the error after you approve the auth request in WordPress and when you're back on IBC?
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n​smsn It was after. I reached a page that said
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n​smsn Operation timed out after 10001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (timeout)
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n​smsn Invalid Request
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gRegor Ok, let me check
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n​smsn Here's the full URL if that helps: https://indiebookclub.biz/auth/callback?code=bicfCf8qTuWvH2A31w6hHWKYsTENP4AZXcBTqz1x9LGhZDMn6lXT6lVljirrPZfTgCgXNPUwUcxiibsXvhvel43dy9pwZKsf8Tsxrj18slZZMRm3UANI74XhJ2twnEue&state=8f909c719656d378&iss=https%3A%2F%2Fnicksimson.com%2Fwp-json%2Findieauth%2F1.0
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gRegor Ok, was just going to confirm it's on /auth/callback, that's good
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gRegor I don't see anything in the error logs. I might have to enable some debugging and have you try again. I'll take a closer look tonight
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gRegor Are you able to sign in to Quill or another Micropub client?
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[nsmsn] I'll try Quill, and will let you know...
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[nsmsn] Yep, I logged into Quill successfully
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[nsmsn] Gotta run for some family stuff...I'll try to keep an eye on this chat later. Thanks, gRegor!
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gRegor Sure thing, I'll ping you when I have an update. Thanks!
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c​apjamesg [tantek] Do I need a separate service vs. just setting caching headers on the sparkline service?
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c​apjamesg I know you mentioned this could be a more generic pattern for caching resources, though.
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c​apjamesg Oh, because the caching headers will be set for each user, not your site.
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c​apjamesg Right.
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c​apjamesg Is there a way this can be done with nginx?
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[tantek] or Apache (compatible) servers?
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