#dev 2024-01-23
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btrem I wish it were easier with 11ty to separate content from structure. It'd be nice to create a new github repo with the own-your-wordle code that I wrote, so others could use it.
# btrem Moving from #indieweb, re: https://btrem.com/feed/wordle
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[aciccarello] Seems like another space where I'd like to have content from personal sites listed or searchable by content type. Reviews, recipes, game scores.
# [aciccarello] But limited to the people I follow rather than a global search
# btrem I do post h-recipes, but in an unorthodox way. I'm actually thinking of moving my recipes to a sub-domain, and perhaps changing how it all works. Still trying to work out whether and how to change it.
# btrem Oh, and I do h-review for Lee Perry records, which I started after he passed away. https://btrem.com/2021/09-lee-perry-recommendations (but I haven't done any new ones in quite a while).
# btrem I just realized that I sound like I'm plugging my sites ("you should follow me"). Not my intention. Just chatting idly.
# [aciccarello] No worries
# [aciccarello] What issues have you had with 11ty?
# [aciccarello] I've thrown around ideas of moving my markdown files to a separate content repo and using git submodules to pull that into the build but seems like an unnecessary complication.
# btrem None with 11ty per se. (Well, lots with 11ty per se, but that's for another discussion!)
# btrem It's just hard to separate out one part of the site. Like the wordle stuff that I worked on this week. There are functions in .eleventy.js, and templates (what 11ty calls "layouts" but that's the wrong word and an example of 11ty problems per se!) in a directory. And style rules in a stylesheet that contains styles for the whole site. And directory data json and js files in yet another directory.
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# btrem So how would I package that up so others could use it? I don't see how.
# btrem I've also thought of separating out .md files. It's crazy to have edits to a page (in a .md file) mixed in with changes to the site config. I even thought git submodules might be the way. But I'm an amateur. I know just enough git to get it all into a repo. Git submodules scares me.
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# btrem [tantek] I assume you mean when I put a solidus slash / around a word, yeah? I mean italics, or to be more precise, emphasis in the html sense.
# btrem When I put a word between two solidus / marks, the word appears italicized in my chat client (Thunderbird). Same when I do it in email. Also in markdown, which I use for my website. I sort of thought it was a common convention. Does it not appear italicized in other clients?
# btrem I also use asterisks * around a word to denote strong emphasis, a la the <strong> element. And indeed, it shows as bold in the chat client just as <strong> does (by default) in a web page. And the * convention also works in email and markdown.
# btrem Maybe this discussion is better had in meta? Not that I mind, but others might find it tedious.
# btrem Ok, good. Maybe that's why Loqi hasn't scolded me yet. And here I was thinking she was getting soft on me. :-D
# btrem Oh, yes, it shows up with literal / marks around it in my chat client, too. Same for email.
# btrem Oh, shoot, you're right. My bad.
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# btrem One asterisk for <em>, two for <strong>.
# btrem I don't know the development of markdown. Maybe a solidus couldn't easily be parsed, so they went with asterisk instead? Dunno myself.
# btrem Ha ha. Yeah, that's fair. You could even point out, when you cite it, that the person who mistakenly thought the / solidus means <em> in markdown was (and is) a regular markdown user.
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# btrem I notice there's a bit of hostility towards markdown. I imagine it's more than just the asterisk thing. As for myself, I find markdown much easier than e.g., wiki conventions. Maybe that's just what one is used to. And it's *much* better (see what I did there?) :-D than typing out html tags.
# btrem In fact, other than wiki and markdown, I don't know what other entry formats there are. I'd hate having to use a wyswig form. Don't want to keep grabbing my mouse to change elements.
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# btrem Ok, not sure I really understand what that means. I imagine it's not just the solidus vs asterisk thing?
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[tantek] Yeah markdown has many more problems than that. I've documented some (and possible fixes / replacements) on http://tantek.com/w/Markdown
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[jeremycherfas] I’d just add that the hostility to Markdown is not uniformly distributed. 😀
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[KevinMarks] Some neat css tips https://moderncss.dev/12-modern-css-one-line-upgrades/
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# [jeremycherfas] I doubt it [tantek] I don’t want to fly and it is a lot of train for two days. Never say never, though.
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# [Al_Abut] [KevinMarks] good stuff in that list, thanks for sharing. I can use two of those tips right away to get rid of hacks I’ve been using for years - hacking up underlines with border padding and a non-breaking space to avoid word orphans.
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# [snarfed] most protocols have native ways to indicate "also me/this" links - rel-me, FEP-fffd, NIP-39, etc - but I haven't yet come up with a way that's consistent across them. profile links are the closest I can think of, they might work. otherwise, maybe we just use each protocol's native way on its own?
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# [snarfed] unrelated, has anyone looked at FedCM yet? looks like a "privacy preserving" alternative to OAuth? https://fedidcg.github.io/FedCM/ , https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/blob/main/explainer.md
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