#dev 2024-02-27
2024-02-27 UTC
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[Joao_Paulo_Pes] > I wonder how Wikipedia adapts their horizontal timelines to mobile
# [Joao_Paulo_Pes] [tantek] they overflow horizontally. this timeline is an image, tho. not sure how that differs from actual html tables in practice.
# [Joao_Paulo_Pes] reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_ancient_history
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# [Al_Abut] it is exactly NOT the optimal tech stack to create any kind of visuals, IMO. That’s what makes it fun, the sort of hackiness of it.
# [Al_Abut] I’m kind of late to this party of using stylesheets for anything other than layout or formatting but I guess it’s more human-readable than SVG?
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[Murray] Not sure if anyone else has been following along with this Netlify controversy over enormous bills on free-tier websites that have (unknowingly) suffered DDOS campaigns, but I find it equal parts scary (particularly as someone who uses Netlify 😅) and fascinating. Context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39520776 and https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1b14bty/netlify_just_sent_me_a_104k_bill_for_a_simple/
# [Murray] Looks like the general policy is to forgive this kind of incident, and the Netlify CEO has responded and said that they're looking at changing this behaviour for non-commercial customers. That makes sense to me; the negative PR here has got to be non-trivial. This is a core reason why I've never been happy using an S3 bucket for image storage. I had a friend get hit with a *huge* bill using AWS because he accidentally left an API running and
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jacky and the lack of a "point something at a VPS service to make my site turn on" thing (though I'm sure they exist, https://surge.sh is one) that's also popular doesn't help the game
# [Murray] I think it's fair to say that anything that relies on a CLI is automatically in the "bad UX" camp 😅 By all means include a CLI, but I think I can count the number of my friends on one hand that would be comfortable using an interface like that, and they are all developers in one form or another
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[KevinMarks] editing SVG by hand can be fun in a puzzle kind of way - making the SVG versions of the bitmap icons was like that, and playing with the tiny icons to make them smaller
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# [KevinMarks] You tend to get floating point coordinates with machine generated SVGs, not hand made ones. See https://www.kevinmarks.com/svgsparklines.html
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# [KevinMarks] I've had drag and drop ftp clients on mac since the 1990s
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# superkuh I wish.
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# [lcs] (S)FTP is fairly standard still, no?
# [lcs] (and a much preferable way of editing files on the server compared to SSH and nano or whatevs, dont @ me!)
# [lcs] Me neither tbh, so maybe I'm just making up stuff here
# [lcs] But on a personal level. I'll jump on any excuse to use Transmit
# [lcs] Another great app from Panic [aaronpk]
# [lcs] Yes I think Panic only make Mac apps.
# [lcs] Their apps are genuinely one of the reasons I prefer Mac over Win. I remember being very disappointed I couldn't find anything that matched the user experience of their apps the last time I had a private Windows computer.
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# [lcs] I'm sure it's a whole different landscape now, though. Must be more than a decade back
# [lcs] Ironically I spend more time on a Windows computer (at work) than I do with my Mac at home :S
# [lcs] An old Mini sounds like the perfect way to try out a few Panic apps
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lazcorp I've never played with sparklines before, but I'm thinking of creating a sparkline for my blog showing frequency of posting. The blog was launched in 2008 and currently has 221 posts. For the last year or two I've been posting 3-4 times per month. Sparkline experts: how many data points should I be using for a readable sparkline? How long should each point on the sparkline graph represent?
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# [KevinMarks] I need to write up the sparkdot thing I do (plot each event at the exact time horizontally, increment the vertical for each point, reset the vertical every hour/day/week depending on the timescale)
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[jamietanna] I've done a very unreadable version https://www.jvt.me/post-frequency/ that needs some improvement at some point
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# [KevinMarks] Interesting on the difference of who you are relying on in mastodon vs bluesky https://merveilles.town/@lrhodes/111989082944931829
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aaronpk Tailwind << comparison against semantic CSS https://nuejs.org/blog/tailwind-vs-semantic-css/
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Loqi ok, I added "comparison against semantic CSS https://nuejs.org/blog/tailwind-vs-semantic-css/" to the "See Also" section of /Tailwind https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=93489&oldid=93410
# [Al_Abut] Hilarious. And definitely my approach to my work. Glosses over the real reasons for the popularity of tailwind though a bit with some strawman arguments of why devs use it now.
# [Al_Abut] So most likely preaching to the choir
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# [Al_Abut] With that in mind, the manifesto for the underlying service is worth a read too: https://nuejs.org/blog/perfect-web-framework/
# [Al_Abut] This bit describes my life for the last few months: “Popular frameworks like Next.js or Astro are optimized for JavaScript developers with a deep understanding of React, TypeScript, CSS-in-JS, Tailwind, and whatnot.”
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# [Joao_Paulo_Pes] that's fantastic, love the ambition! will definitely keep an eye on it
# [Joao_Paulo_Pes] seems like there's a general feeling that front-end development is unnecessarily complex and straying away from the standards nowadays: https://frankchimero.com/blog/2018/everything-easy/
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# [Al_Abut] ```That’s a great article. This part hit me hard: “while I can’t identify spaghetti code as a designer, I sure as hell know about spaghetti workflows and spaghetti toolchains. It feels like we’re there now on the web.”```
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# jacky been playing with https://tauri.app/ (versus https://nativescript.org/) to make a lil' Micropub client and wonder if (beyond me) anyone would want such a client
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# [Joe_Crawford] When I do I tend to do the draft in an email to myself since I'm always in email. But the mobile (phone) experience on iOS for writing and proofing and particularly for formatting and adding links is tedious in the things I've tried. iPad slightly better but not by much.