#dev 2024-04-09

2024-04-09 UTC
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[tantek] let's take a look at the page
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[tantek] what is DNS
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Loqi DNS is an abbreviation for Domain Name Server (or Domain Name System) and often used to refer to the configuring thereof on a domain name registrar or on a web host https://indieweb.org/DNS
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[tantek] cambridgeport90, no one else is hosting their own DNS currently, would you like add your example as you noted in chat above to https://indieweb.org/DNS#IndieWeb_Examples ?
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cambridgeport90 It's all there inside of CloudFlare, so maybe I should just leave it there?
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[snarfed] cambridgeport90 do you have a reason to host your own DNS?
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[snarfed] if not, we'd probably recommend that you don't. it's a complicated, technical thing to do, very high risk low reward to self host
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[snarfed] funny, on a related note, I may actually need to self host a bit of DNS (for the first time ever) for Bridgy Fed. not looking forward to that. https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/744
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[snarfed] https://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/2024/04/08/the-threads-api-is-coming-soon/
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[snarfed] https://developers.facebook.com/docs/threads
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capjamesg I love how I can follow Obama on Mastodon since he is on Threads.
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[snarfed] (https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/1507 )
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[aciccarello] That's good to see. Bets on how many years till the api is restricted to the point it is unusable?
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[KevinMarks] well, it's explicitly a roach motel api already - post and maybe replies to posts but no feed access so no client apps. Maybe a good fit for http://brid.gy though
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[aciccarello] So POSSE but no PESOS?
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capjamesg [KevinMarks] Is "roach motel api" a standardized term?
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[snarfed] yeah so far it looks like you can fetch a post's individual replies, https://developers.facebook.com/docs/threads/reply-moderation#replies
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capjamesg Why use the API vs. AP?
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[snarfed] ...but not individual likes or reposts, only counts, https://developers.facebook.com/docs/threads/insights#available-metrics
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capjamesg Or is the API for all Threads users?
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[snarfed] capjamesg many reasons, probably most important that AP is opt in for Threads users, which only a tiny tiny fraction will ever do
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[snarfed] yeah API is presumably for all Threads users
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[snarfed] would be odd if not
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[KevinMarks] the common phrase is usually 'Data roach motel' which is a reference to a US cockroach trap
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[Joe_Crawford] an absolutely ancient idiom dependent on tv commercials from... the 1980s? "roaches check in, but they don't check out" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKhGHxO-woc
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[KevinMarks] Dare Obasanjo on this in 2007 (he's now a lead PM at FB) http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/21/FacebookTheSocialGraphRoachMotel.aspx
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[aciccarello] What is a roach motel?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "roach motel" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "roach motel is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor resists urge to redirect that to /Twitter
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sknebel and people thought hte dogfood metaphor was disgusting ...
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[aciccarello] A roach motel is a metaphor for a [[silo]] that accepts data but does not allow exporting to other platforms based on a US insect trap advertisement campaign "roaches check in, but they don't check out". The term was used as far back as 2007 by [http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2007/08/21/FacebookTheSocialGraphRoachMotel.aspx Dare Obasanjo] to describe facebook.
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Loqi ok
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[KevinMarks] roach motel << https://flickr.com/photos/psd/2592742563/in/photolist-4X7u2Z
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Loqi ok, I added "https://flickr.com/photos/psd/2592742563/in/photolist-4X7u2Z" to a brand new "See Also" section of /roach_motel https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=94569&oldid=94568
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[snarfed] and "Hotel California" was so close
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capjamesg [KevinMarks] You really should start blogging again.
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[KevinMarks] fair
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capjamesg [Joe_Crawford] Thanks for the link!
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[Joe_Crawford] Might be time to redo the xkcd comic about dependencies in open source but for obscure idioms and pop culture used in tech jargon
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capjamesg [Joe_Crawford] Challenge: write a blog post of those idioms.
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[Joe_Crawford] 💾
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capjamesg bows to the floppy disk.
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[Joe_Crawford] Excuse me I need to make a phone call. I will dial the numbers.
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capjamesg That reminds me!
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capjamesg Afdal there is no reason to use a centralized authority for a personal website.
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capjamesg If you are making your own, you can use certbot and letsencrypt to do so securely.
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