#dev 2024-07-09

2024-07-09 UTC
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drewmcweeney Hi- I am confused with the instructions
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gRegor drewmcweeney, for indielogin, there's a couple options 1) your site needs to link to a service, like your Github profile, with a `rel="me"` on the link. Then your Github profile needs to link back to your site. Then indielogin will use that verified relationship to sign you in...
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gRegor Or 2) your site is running an IndieAuth server. WordPress and some other CMSes have plugins for this, basically letting you use your own site's admin login system to authenticate you
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gRegor It sounds like you're not on WP anymore, so maybe you had that plugin when you initially signed in to the wiki but don't now
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drewmcweeney Okay so if I have an icon with a link to GitHub on my profile that is the first thing?
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gRegor 1 is the more common option, 2 usually takes some more work
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drewmcweeney How do you get a rel=me on the link?
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gRegor It doesn't have to be visible, even. Lower on the instructions under "Advanced" there's a hidden option, so it could be like: `<link href="https://github.com/gregorlove" rel="me">` for my profile
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drewmcweeney Here is the page that I put the GitHub link on (it is the globe icon)
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drewmcweeney Scroll all the way down
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drewmcweeney https://drewmcweeney.com/home
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[tantek] yes, visible links are preferred because they are more likely to be kept up to date
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gRegor These rel-me links need to be on https://drewmcweeney.com/ since that's the URL you'll sign in with
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drewmcweeney That the intro page not the home page
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drewmcweeney The rel-me link is on the home page?
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gRegor Yeah, the usual setup is that your domain name is your identity, so when you go to sign in you would enter "drewmcweeney.com" in the sign in form, not "drewmcweeney.com/home"
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drewmcweeney So the github icon has to be on the intro page?
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gRegor The link to github has to be somewhere on the intro page, yes. Visible is recommended like [tantek] mentioned, but invisible is an option if you prefer
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drewmcweeney How do I get invisible option?
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gRegor btw, https://github.com/DrewMcWeeney already links back to https://drewmcweeney.com/ with rel-me on it, so halfway done! :)
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drewmcweeney So how do I get invisible option on intro page
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drewmcweeney So how do I get invisible option on intro page
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gRegor The <link> tag: `<link href="https://github.com/DrewMcWeeney" rel="me">`
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gRegor I do the invisible option on my site if you want to look at the source: https://gregorlove.com/
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drewmcweeney Here is what it looks like
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drewmcweeney https://drewmcweeney.com/
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gRegor You'll need to put it in the HTML of your site. Looks like it's just showing it as text now.
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gRegor What's running your site?
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[0x3b0b] You're going to need to use "Edit Content" "Add Feature" "HTML code"
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[0x3b0b] https://bandzoogle.com/help/articles/387-adding-html-css-and-javascript-to-a-page
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gRegor Ah, nice!
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[0x3b0b] Or at least, that should work. I don't know for sure that's the only supported way.
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drewmcweeney Okay I did that
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drewmcweeney Do you see it?
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drewmcweeney drewmcweeney.com
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gRegor Yep, it looks good. You can try signing in to indieweb.org now. It should take you through your Github to authorize the request
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drewmcweeney It worked! Thank you so much!
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gRegor Awesome! You're welcome
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gRegor Nice track btw, Ramen Noodle Week. Digging it.
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[tantek] drewmcweeney++ nicely done! you can also use https://indiewebify.me/ to check your site's rel=me support
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Loqi drewmcweeney has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] experimenting with new curated comments markup and styling
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gRegor what is curated comments
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Loqi curated comments are an approach to presenting comments on posts which emphasize one or more techniques for only showing comments that have been explicitly selected by the original post author, both from other sites and local comments, sometimes with a UI deliberately designed to solicit comments as collaborative notes to be added to the original post https://indieweb.org/curated_comments
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[tantek] and here is my experiment live: https://tantek.com/2024/180/b1/responsible-inventing#responsible-inventing-comments
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[tantek] similar but different markup than what I've used in the past
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[tantek] curated comments << IndieWeb Example: {{t}} is experimenting with statically displayed curated comments with an explicit notice about the curation and sources of comments. E.g. https://tantek.com/2024/180/b1/responsible-inventing#responsible-inventing-comments
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Loqi ok, I added "IndieWeb Example: {{t}} is experimenting with statically displayed curated comments with an explicit notice about the curation and sources of comments. E.g. https://tantek.com/2024/180/b1/responsible-inventing#responsible-inventing-comments" to the "See Also" section of /curated_comments https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=96148&oldid=96118
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[tantek] feedback welcome! it's an experiment after all
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[manton] [tantek] [snarfed] Catching up on the Social CG / fediverse:creator questions… rel=author with activity+json and the actor URL makes a lot of sense to me.
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[snarfed] whoa [tantek]++ huge step, finally showing replies on http://tantek.com!!!
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Loqi [preview] Tantek Çelik
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[tantek] [snarfed] they're manual, but hey, as the saying goes
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[snarfed] 👏
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aaronpk figuring out what you want them to look like is a huge chunk of the work regardless of whether they are automatic or manually created!
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[tantek] yes that was a bunch of work and iteration, along with the markup
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StarrWulfe 👏 @ [tantek] Huzzah!
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[tantek] btw that request for feedback includes if anyone is viewing source and looking at the specific comment markup or on the presentation.
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[tantek] there is a potential challenge here of how to at least semi-accurately convey the semantics/formatting of responses both from personal sites (via webmention) and from federated replies
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[tantek] in a unified / consistent presentation, i.e. I don't want to make comments look different just because of their underlying protocol or source
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[tantek] feedback is also inclusive of questions, like if you see something and wonder why, please ask!
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[snarfed] looks like you followed https://indieweb.org/comments#How_to_markup 👍
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[tantek] yes, [snarfed], roughly, except with some re-ordering and explicit use of an ordered list both for semantics and presentation
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[tantek] I decided clustering the author / published / permalink at the top in one line felt and communicated better information architecture (as one "header" chunk) in front of the comment contents, rather than putting the date and permalink at the bottom after the comment content
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[tantek] also this is the 3rd iteration of "Comments" section markup that I've done, manually, so the iteration/evolution is viewable
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