#dev 2024-07-18

2024-07-18 UTC
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capjamesg[d] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577430886350869/1263389933674954824/Screenshot_2024-07-18_at_08.00.12.png?ex=669a0f10&is=6698bd90&hm=1eda8f8b9ffd263e67b2f5c25a79a8887474e412eddf459cb522c4d75b258a41&
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capjamesg[d] My website now has server-rendered code styles:
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capjamesg[d] My SSG renders these with the pygments Python package.
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capjamesg[d] Now I don't need a JS library to do this on the client side.
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capjamesg[d] And these styles look _a lot_ better!
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Zic IndieBlocks has its own Webmention? How to understand the following sentence from the plugin description in WordPress: "IndieBlocks comes with its own Webmention implementation, but a separate plugin can be used, too."
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nsmsn I am running both the IndieBlocks plugin and Webmention plugin on my site, Zic. I could post my configuration settings later if anyone is interested
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Zic @nsmsn I'm interested :)
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Zic I wrote here because description showed that IndieBlocks duplicates features from "Webmention".
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Zic btw. It was quite a surprise to me that IndieWeb doesn't have integration with Fediverse. @snarfed wrote that they complement each other.
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Zic I'll be back in 6-7 hours
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superkuh Fediverse is super heavy, an entirely different and incompatible set of requirements.
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superkuh activitypub's required cryptographic response especially.
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superkuh It always seemed weird to me people tried to mush activitypub and webmention systems together.
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[snarfed] wait, cryptographic response?
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[snarfed] do you mean verifying sigs?
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[snarfed] or signing outbound requests?
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superkuh Signing outbound.
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superkuh Requires some extra bit of active code running somewhere.
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superkuh Whereas anything can POST.
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[snarfed] yeah the IndieWeb corollary is serving over SSL, which is still cryptographic, but much more widespread and built in
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[snarfed] (well, thin pings + SSL)
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superkuh It can be over SSL, yes.
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superkuh I don't. No need.
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nsmsn @Zic, I took screenshots and posted about my configuration for the Webmention and IndieBlocks plugins: https://nicks.im/b/73y
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nsmsn [edit] @Zic, I took screenshots and posted about my configuration for the Webmention and IndieBlocks plugins: https://nicks.im/b/73y
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Loqi [preview] [Nick Simson] My current Webmention setup I thought it may be helpful to share my configuration settings and demonstrate how I’m using both the Webmention plugin and IndieBlocks on the same site. https://nicks.im/b/73y #IndieWeb #WordPress https://nicksimson.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Webmention-‹-Nick-Simson-—-WordPress-989x1024.png
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Loqi [preview] [Nick Simson] My current Webmention setup I thought it may be helpful to share my configuration settings and demonstrate how I’m using both the Webmention plugin and IndieBlocks on the same site. https://nicks.im/b/73y #IndieWeb #WordPress https://nicksimson.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Webmention-‹-Nick-Simson-—-WordPress-989x1024.png
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nsmsn Sorry about all the repetitive stuff. I'm using the Discord bridge, and didn't mean to edit.
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nsmsn Happy to continue the chat in #indieweb-wordpress or on my blog post. Jan Boddez has good documentation on https://indieblocks.xyz/documentation/webmention/
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[snarfed] superkuh my point was just that thin pings + SSL is IndieWeb's corollary to AP's signed requests
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superkuh Ah, got it. I meant that activitypub requires heavy active applications so it's apple pie to apples comparison.
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nsmsn I set up a page that I (hopefully) enabled webmentions on. Would anyone care to test it out? Target https://nicksimson.com or https://nicksimson.com/mentions/
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nsmsn [edit] I set up a page that I (hopefully) enabled webmentions on. Would anyone care to test it out? Target https://nicksimson.com or https://nicksimson.com/mentions/
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nsmsn [edit] I set up a page that I (hopefully) enabled webmentions on. Would anyone care to test it out? Target https://nicksimson.com or https://nicksimson.com/mentions/
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[snarfed] done!
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[snarfed] you can also always send one to yourself
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[snarfed] wait I don't see that that page advertises a wm endpoint
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nsmsn Dang! Maybe this is a WordPress channel question, but do I need to enable comments on all pages, too?
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[snarfed] yeah that's for #indieweb-wordpress
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Zic @nsmsn thank You
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[KevinMarks] Interesting gatewaying https://bsky.app/profile/thesun.co.uk.web.brid.gy/post/3kxlgie2ere32
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[snarfed] [KevinMarks] ?
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[tantek] presumably congrats [snarfed]! The Sun "newspaper" is using BridgyFed to bridge from web to BlueSky!
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[snarfed] oh no, anyone can request a web page
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[snarfed] like in the fediverse since we launched web bridging there
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[snarfed] (cue the opt in vs opt out debate 😁)
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