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cophee btrem: i am an 11ty !
# cophee 11tyer
# cophee i use .md. for posts — any reason for .yaml? :OOO
# Northri Hi there!
# cophee So I think to get started on HTML
# cophee I'd recommend using a easy code editor like Atom
# Northri (also while you are typing, I have zero interest in the site being compatible with phones lol)
# Northri OK, so an editor like that. I was going between Atom and VS Code, but I'm sure both will work.
# cophee yess both are fine
# cophee Northri: that's ok—that's a CSS thing :PP
# Northri Exactly. I despise what phones have done to the internet.
# cophee Atom is more simple to use but I use VSCode
# cophee Northri: Fair enough
# cophee I'd recommend getting a plugin to allow live preview of HTML
# Northri Check
# cophee Once you have a few pages done, there are some options for hosts
# Northri I want to self-host, if that matters.
# cophee Ooooh
# cophee Self-hosting would be a bit more difficult
# cophee You'll need to keep a computer on 24/7
# Northri Yeah I have a plan for that. Might start totally offline until it's ready, but I have a computer for that.
# cophee Ok—you can also opt for something like a raspberry pi
# Northri Yep!
# Northri But I'm not a genius. I need some kind of hosting software to help.
# Northri I was looking at Hugo, but I don't know if that's what I need.
# cophee I'm not too sure about self-hosting since I haven't done it personally
# cophee But I'm sure ptramo[d] can help out
# Northri OK, if I didn't go that route, what do you use for a host?
# cophee I think as a start, I enjoyed using Neocities
# Northri DANG that's old.
# cophee since there's a social smallweb side of things
# Northri (not in a bad way)
# cophee HAHA Neocities is a remake of Geocities
# cophee so it's kinda y2k revival
# cophee And if you want something less fun, then maybe Github Pages
# Northri Haha gotcha! Well I might start the site out and decide whether to self-host or not later.
# cophee I host mine on Cloudflare Pages just because my domain was bought from there
# cophee Northri: Yessss do it!!!
# cophee I'm sure it's not too difficult to selfhost a small webpage
# cophee I just don't know how :""]
# Northri Haha do you have a recommendation for a place to learn HTML?
# cophee Northri: I learnt all of mine from FreeCodeCamp actually!
# cophee I made it a goal to "just do 1 lesson" per day
# cophee got kinda addicted
# cophee and then finished the HTML + CSS course xD
# Northri Perfect. Thank you so much! You have been very helpful :)
# cophee And then I was lucky to be able to learn at my workplace too
# cophee Northri: Any time!!!
# Northri I'm going to go do that right now. Cheers!
# cophee This is one of my first pages ahha
# cophee https://bomby.neocities.org/
# cophee [edit] This is one of my first pages ahha
# cophee https://bomby.neocities.org/
# Northri Oh that's sexy lol
# cophee looking back at the code it was very very messy
# cophee but it was so fun
# cophee i really enjoyed it :))
# Northri It's beautiful. I want to do something like that.
# cophee yes!
# cophee start small and build from there
# cophee i did not have a plan HAHAHA
# Northri Honestly, I have a lot built already. But it's half Markdown and half HTML.
# Northri I don't know how well it translates to a real website.
# cophee ooooo
# cophee if you like markdown and html
# cophee you can try something like 11ty
# cophee that's what my current website is based on
# cophee https://wingpang.com/
# Northri Yes! I might go that direction.
# cophee :DD if you have any questions let me know!!
# Northri Will do, thank you again!
# cophee very excited for you 😄
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[KevinMarks] I'd also say look at the https://github.com/indieweb/blank-gh-site as a starter
# [KevinMarks] Even if you don't care much about mobile it's worth having the minimal header there.
# [KevinMarks] Build your html semantically so that it makes sense without CSS too
# [KevinMarks] For high level thinking about CSS, I really like the https://every-layout.dev/ explanation, which is paid, but worth it and thw free part helps - thinking about CSS as constraints that help the browser do the right thing is good
# [KevinMarks] Then come to the next Front End Study Hall and chat about what you want to do
# [KevinMarks] What is front end study hall?
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Loqi 🎨 Front End Study Hall is an HTML and CSS focused IndieWeb popup meeting focused on markup, styling, design, layout, and accessibility in a loose format where participants come to learn and teach https://indieweb.org/Front_End_Study_Hall
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# cophee im a big css nut but im also an imposter since i like sass
# cophee was reading up on fluid web css (will give it a go on my next project)
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# [Joe_Crawford] Imposter! If you’re using SASS you’re using CSS which makes you not an imposter.
# [Joe_Crawford] And next FrESH is tomorrow https://events.indieweb.org/2024/08/front-end-study-hall-008-BVfQ91G65DtL
# [Joe_Crawford] Format open, no question too small or large, all topics front end are fair game
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capjamesg[d] I'll see if I can attend FrESH tomorrow. I may be a bit tired though. We'll see!
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# [snarfed] it's 2024 and Mastodon is finally thinking about making their `Delete` traffic less overwhelming. better late than never I guess, https://oisaur.com/@renchap/112882196298161297
# sebbu i got https://bsky.app/profile/sebbu.fr.web.brid.gy and https://mastodon.social/@sebbu.fr@sebbu.fr working (not sure why it also defined the banner on the second)
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