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Kolev gRegor, so can I do this with manual HTML?
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gRegor Yep!
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Kolev Nice.
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gRegor Here's a minimal example: https://brid.gy/about#microformats
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gRegor The page you want to POSSE will also need one of the publish links, like https://brid.gy/publish/bluesky for bluesky. It doesn't have to be in the h-entry, though, and it can also be an invisible link.
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gRegor Then when you go to the Bridgy site, click the Bluesky icon, in the right column there's a "Ready to publish" section with a field to enter your post URL. You can preview it before publishing.
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gRegor what is manual until it hurts
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Loqi manual until it hurts is an IndieWeb development practice of resisting automating something until you have manually done it enough times to really understand it, and know that it is worth doing and automating https://indieweb.org/manual_until_it_hurts
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gRegor It's definitely that^ if you want to POSSE regularly, but it's a good starting point :)
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gRegor I've started doing this a bit more with Bluesky myself
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Kolev gRegor, what static site generator can do POSSE?
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gRegor Those steps I described above are just an interactive form on Bridgy, doesn't require any specific type of generator or CMS, just the HTML with the microformats.
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gRegor What is note
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Loqi 📔 A note is a post that is typically short unstructured* plain text, written & posted quickly, that has its own permalink page https://indieweb.org/note
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gRegor You could publish a note like described in https://indieweb.org/note#How_to
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gRegor Then add the special link to https://brid.gy/publish/bluesky on the page
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gRegor Then use the interactive Bridgy form to POSSE it
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Aabrinae Is saying I'd do freelance work for you against the code of conduct?
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carrvo dissolve22[d] I have pushed a couple PRs to make it work with MinToken and metadara discovery. Don't know if it is relevant to your misconfiguration but I also plan to post separately some of the things I learned this past month.
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dissolve22[d] carrvo[d]: No mine was just that the url had to be full, originally I didn't put in the https:// and that caused the wiki to be very unhappy. It could initially discover the endpoint, but couldn't later
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carrvo @[tantek] too bad I wasn't paying attention earlier, would have been interesting to join the W3C SocialCG to learn more. When is the next monthly meeting?
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[tantek] Join the W3C Social CG to get a feed for your calendar!
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[tantek] What is social cg
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Loqi The Social Web Incubator Community Group (AKA SWICG, Social Web Community Group, or Social CG) is a W3C Community Group established during the Social Web Working Group for broader community participation, and to maintain some of the specifications from the Social Web WG https://indieweb.org/Social_CG
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carrvo Oh, looks like it needs an account. Will have to do that later today (when my kid doesn't have half my attention).
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carrvo [tantek]++
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[manton] [snarfed] I’m getting some good feedback about backfeed and how it should play nicely with followers-only posts. Do you handle that in any special way in Bridgy? The problem is essentially: if I post to Mastodon as followers-only, I don’t necessarily want the replies to followers-only posts being seen by anyone.
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[snarfed] [manton] glad it's good feedback! yeah I draw a pretty bright line with Bridgy on only fully public posts and accounts and interactions
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[snarfed] I haven't tried to do anything semi-private or handle ACLs etc
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[snarfed] oh btw while you're here, I asked about a http://micro.blog ActivityPub thing in Matrix, https://matrix.to/#/!uHqAjmOtrLtidOiczC:matrix.org/$8OBVvXhK4DsKzuHuc-iZfdmyGjIBo1-QMOd7P9wWWLI
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[snarfed] m.b evidently sends some activities with the user's domain for its actor and object ids, but http://micro.blog for activity ids. example attached here. lots of fedi software has same-domain checks that these activities will probably fail, do you know if you're seeing that?
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[manton] Thanks! I’ll check into that today. I think I try to use someone’s domain name for blog posts but maybe mentions get a m.b domain.
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[snarfed] I was looking at Create activity ids, eg https://micro.blog/activitypub/ids/83c28c371948878e9aa2 from actor id https://larand.one/activitypub/larand
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[manton] I see. Yeah, I can make that change. Although I’m going to grumble about it because I don’t think the IDs should really conform to the same domain.
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[manton] Now I’m remembering that I always try to make the `url` field use the domain name, but the `id` can be m.b.
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[manton] [snarfed] Do you know off hand with Mastodon replies how you determine if they are in response to a followers-only post? I’m not seeing anything in the JSON, but perhaps because it’s omitted since I don’t have a protected account. Worst case I can grab the original post but that creates a lot of extra chatter.
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[manton] I’m basically polling `/api/v1/notifications?types[]=mention` every few minutes.
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[snarfed] yeah I expect you'd have to grab the original post
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[snarfed] re url vs id, most fedi software will want/expect the opposite, ie id has to match domain, but url doesn't
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[snarfed] (none this is is really standardized in AP though, sigh)
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Kolev Added rel=me and h-card info to https://bluehome.net/csh/ but I don't know how to make use of it.
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Loqi [preview] Caleb S. Herbert
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Kolev Now, to figure out how to do notes with barebones HTML, and POSSE them to Mastodon and Bluesky.
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[manton] [snarfed] Thanks. More testing with the API, it appears that the “visibility” field will be set to private for this followers-only case. I’m going to skip everything not “public” and see how that goes.
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GWG Thinking about https://github.com/indieweb/micropub-extensions/issues/23
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Loqi [preview] [dshanske] #23 Additional syndicate-to property
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