#dev 2024-12-19
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[tantek]2 I mean "line" is right there in the name "timeLINE" 🙂
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# [tantek]2 speaking of design, this is some mad scroll-parallax stuff going on (JS required) https://about.surf.social/
# [tantek]2 (and site itself is on topic for dev)
# [tantek]2 [snarfed] I feel like a lot of this kind of design / copy could be repurposed / "borrowed" for Bridgy
# [tantek]2 e.g. "Surfing All Socials" could be "Bridging All Socials"
# [tantek]2 [Joe_Crawford] the bottom of that page is targeting you: "Join Our Dawn Patrol Beta"
# [tantek]2 sure! there's still the opportunity there for Bridgy to be a Microsub server, and have folks use Microsub readers to access it.
# [tantek]2 keeping the UI for editing your feeds etc. online in Bridgy makes a lot of sense IMO
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# [Joe_Crawford] Cognitive overload on the terms "surfing" and "dawn patrol" there.
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# [tantek]2 lolol
# [Joe_Crawford] I mean, the Dawn Patrol app people chose a good name. But it's not trademarkable.
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# Lars-Christian Re: scrolling, I'm just gonna drop this link here https://dontfuckwithscroll.com/
# carrvo[d] I mean...yes...but "natural" or "predictable" are not great arguments once you realize that they are entirely subjective to what was done first. And that often isn't the best. For example, I have heard that argument about why typing on a keyboard is natural and faster if you only use your two pointer fingers instead of all 10.
# carrvo[d] I would prefer if the scrolling was an option for which way. Mostly for backwards compatibility with an older generation that has different expectations. That and sometimes it is difficult to actually click and hold without either going past or clicking on something inside. I can appreciate the new way, especially since it better for mobile.
# Lars-Christian You can apply that argument to everything that's not explicitly stated by the laws of physics.
# Lars-Christian But the fact that you think these kinds of "scrolling effects" are better for mobile is... interesting! I literally become ill by scrolling that page ^_^
# Lars-Christian Not to mention the stutter that page introduces on my ancient iPhone 11!
# carrvo[d] I merely meant that the effects of psychology make things more complicated. Even physics experiments are susceptible...but I am sure that is off topic of the channel. I apologize for being bothered by it.
# carrvo[d] For the scrolling, that website was actually the least smooth I have experienced. I might guess that I don't fully understand the scrolling effects mentioned...but I don't particularly think I would appreciate a scrollbar taking up the limited space on my phone when it is easy to swipe instead. Touch screens are a different beast than mice.
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capjamesg[d] [Joe_Crawford] It looks like my image sizing code doesn't work on videos 😦
# capjamesg[d] Here is a page with a video: https://jamesg.blog/2024/12/19/image-size/
# capjamesg[d] [edit] Here is a page with a video: https://jamesg.blog/2024/12/19/image-size/
# capjamesg[d] I can't figure out how to resize the video.
# capjamesg[d] Wait, never mind.
# capjamesg[d] I had a :not selector that was applying to it.
# capjamesg[d] Kupietz I like your holiday lights!
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# [Joe_Crawford] capjamesg[d] nicely done!
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# capjamesg[d] [snarfed] https://granary.io/url?input=html&output=atom&url=https%3A%2F%2Fartemis.jamesg.blog%2Fu%2Findieweb doesn't look to be working. It looks good in https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fartemis.jamesg.blog%2Fu%2Findieweb. Do I need to set a u-uid?
# capjamesg[d] Oh no my markup is a bit off.
# capjamesg[d] I missed the h-entry.
# capjamesg[d] It works now!
# capjamesg[d] I love Granary 😄
# [snarfed] and your users are even sending PRs in 😁 https://github.com/snarfed/granary/pull/847
# capjamesg[d] Oh wow haha!
# capjamesg[d] I mention Granary quite a bit on my blog 😊 https://jamesg.blog/search-pages/?q=granary&page=1
# capjamesg[d] [edit] I mention Granary quite a bit on my blog 😊 https://jamesg.blog/search-pages/?q=granary&page=1
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Kupietz Lol, the scrolling on that page makes you guys seasick or feels unnatural, you should see my old site. https://mikeycosm.org Doesn’t work on mobile, I never bothered to update it for that. But if you’re on a desktop… Look out
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# carrvo[d] Apache cannot pass an SVN stored file to PHP to parse. It is a shame but probably for the better.
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# [tantek]2 Moult, the point of h-feed (and h-entry) is that it simplifies both development and user experience for more people, especially independents
# [tantek]2 what is DRY
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Loqi DRY is an acroynm for Don't Repeat Yourself https://indieweb.org/DRY
# [tantek]2 what is a feed file
# Loqi A feed file is a feed represented as a side file (a separate file, as opposed to part of an existing HTML page, like a homepage), typically in a custom feed-specific format (often XML like RSS/Atom, or JSON like ActivityStreams 2.0 or JSON Feed) https://indieweb.org/feed_file
# [tantek]2 Moult, whether you store full content or summaries is orthogonal to the format of RSS or Atom or h-feed
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# Kupietz Just a little note for the community. I had some weird CSS optimization problems on my site that necessitateds comparing the CSS for a whole menu structure to see where the consarned problem was. Would up gathering some functions that you could run in FireFox's console that would return CSS rules for the whole page, or for an element selected in the Inspector and all its descendants, with options in the latter case to get full CSS including
# Kupietz inherited rules/browser styles/etc, or just the rules explicitly defined for those elements in CSS files and inline. Might be able to use some improvement but in case anybody has use for something like that it's documented at https://michaelkupietz.com/?p=12305
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# Kupietz Also hosted on Github at https://github.com/kupietools/ff-js-console-CSS-tools for anyone liable to be injured by the high resource consumption of my wordpress site.