#dev 2025-01-18

2025-01-18 UTC
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[Jo] cool!
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[Jo] i know there used to be a chat on gemini but rarely anyone ever used it. if you werent logged in with a cert it used your IP address
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corlaez I had a different trick under the sleeve. UUIDs. Allows users to mask identity at will. bookmark your uri to retain identity, others see a public id. You can set an alias as well
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corlaez I guess it is not really a great trick, then the url becomes somewhat of a sensitive info because anyone with your path can impersonate you, but whatever it is just a toy chat
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corlaez Talking about lowering the bar, Rob (jsreed) just announced a free service to host gemini capsules gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2025/202501/20250117-announcement-gemsync-free-gemini-hosting-with-syncthing.gmi
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corlaez Now I think about perhaps a page on the wiki about that service would be good
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corlaez Is gemini "web" enough? Is the indie web only about https?
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corlaez oh yeah i guess it is, i see p\ages for it already
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corlaez Dang, there are gemmentions already. Inspired by Webmentions. Awesome: https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemini.conman.org/gemmention%3Fgemini-mention
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[Jo] yes! i actually learned about those earlier than i learnes about webmentions
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aaronpk That's hilarious
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[tantek] Amazing
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aaronpk I would be more interested in Gemini if the premise were using it over local radio networks, that way the constraints are real
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arekenaten I don't like the proliferation of web standards causing browsers to be lovecraftian horrors of complexity. I also don't think a new protocol designed to be non-extensible is the answer. Imo what that would probably turn into is just a series of hard to change protocols being cobbled together to end up basically back where we are now.
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[snarfed] "lovecraftian horrors of complexity," wow, very colorful
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[Jo] gemini isnt really supposed to be the answer to anything, it's just a fun project of trying to marry gopher and the web from how i understand it
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[qubyte] That’s how I prefer to look at it too. It’s fun to tinker, and implement, and experiment on something like that. It’s not something that interests me, but I totally get why it’d appeal.
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[Joe_Crawford] I was playing with it with `amfora` yesterday - a gemini client - trying to understand the appeal. The lightweight nature of gemini is the biggest strength for me. But it doesn't feel like the web. It feels more like searching MEDLINE or a a library catalog. I appreciate formalizing a new way to do that, exploring lighter weight, terminal-like UI. Away from touch and swiping and mice and giant screens.
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[Joe_Crawford] as to the complexity of the web being lovecraftian. The. great thing about the web is youe. website can legit just be a file named `index.htm` with the content `<title>Hi</title><h1>My Manifesto</h1><p>I like websites` and it'll run. No need for the speech synthesis API or fetch or Ajax or notifications. You can do lots with a little and ignore those aspects that you consider a horror.
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doesnm gemini markup is easiest. Like markdown but simpler
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doesnm # Hello!
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[Jo] it's more limiting than markdown but i like it
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[tantek] I still prefer plain text that is autolinked etc
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[morganm] The #indieweb channel is refusing to load in slack, probably just me
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[snarfed] [morganm] yeah it's fine for me 🤷
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[morganm] Yeah 🤷 . Tried a few things, maybe Ill go to the web interface
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[Joe_Crawford] I have always found TikTok intrusive but for US folks looking to stash the TikTok videos that have mattered to them I’ve seen a few people mention this Chrome extension. https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/myfavett-download-all-tik/gmajiifkcmjkehmngbopoobeplhoegad?pli=1
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[morganm] Thanks [Joe_Crawford] That prompted my SO to save some stuff before it shuts down
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