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gRegor osteophage, "A post" is used if the post doesn't have a title, aka a /note post.
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gRegor If you prefer, you can add a title to make it an /article. Those will show up in the newsletter as the linked title.
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osteophage My post did have title, so I'm confused why it wasn't recognized. I'm guessing the tags were in the wrong order somehow.
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gRegor which newsletter was this in?
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osteophage This Week in the IndieWeb
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gRegor date, I mean
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osteophage Oh, hold on a second.
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gRegor https://indieweb.org/this-week/
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osteophage https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-01-03.html
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osteophage I put a h1 class="p-name" tag on the title, thinking that would do it. (I'm still pretty new at this.)
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[tantek] Try the h-entry validator on your post permalink and see if it finds the post name/title
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gRegor I think the problem is that the p-name is inside the e-content
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gRegor The PTD algorithm in step 15: https://indieweb.org/post-type-discovery#Algorithm
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osteophage [tantek]: Yes, https://indiewebify.me/validate-h-entry/ correctly identified the title.
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gRegor The title is pulled out correctly, but it's also a prefix of the post content in this instance
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gRegor So it falls back to being a note
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osteophage gRegor: Oh, so the p-name and e-content should be switched?
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gRegor p-name shouldn't be inside the e-content
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osteophage Got it. I'll try changing that for my next newsletter submission then. Thanks!
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gRegor Basically if you have a post with title "lorem ipsum" and the content was "lorem ipsum dolor...", it's interpreted as a note. IWM should maybe warn about that.
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[tantek] it should at least detect it and tell you the implications thereof
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gRegor Welcome!
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funkylarma Re RSVP notes not being recorded on the IndieWeb Events page.
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funkylarma My notes can be found at: https://adamchamberlin.info/category/rsvp/
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funkylarma The code is available at: https://github.com/funkylarma/adamchamberlin.info/blob/23c741cd0960068ab8725a8cec0e662af2bb21f8/includes/note.liquid#L74
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funkylarma The 200 request from telegraph: https://gist.github.com/funkylarma/4fa25a90d48e322a7ae9ffe7be7a8f2d
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funkylarma [edit] Re RSVP notes not being recorded on the IndieWeb Events page.
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IWDiscord <f​unkylarma>
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IWDiscord <f​unkylarma>
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funkylarma My notes can be found at: https://adamchamberlin.info/category/rsvp/
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funkylarma The code is available at: https://github.com/funkylarma/adamchamberlin.info/blob/23c741cd0960068ab8725a8cec0e662af2bb21f8/includes/note.liquid#L74
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funkylarma The 200 request from telegraph: https://gist.github.com/funkylarma/4fa25a90d48e322a7ae9ffe7be7a8f2d
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funkylarma It was mentioned in #indieweb-random so posting here for reference. I'm creating RSVP notes to the Homebrew Website Club and they never appear on the page. Checking in Indiewebify.me they are seen as a 'reply', but other RSVP permalinks also show this. I'm guessing my markup is structured wrong but I think I have tried different variations and input the rsvp microformat all over.
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aaronpk already left anyway
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GWG Who would fall for that?
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gRegor funkylarma, the permalinks for your RSVPs have h-feed around the h-entry, which probably isn't intended: https://adamchamberlin.info/2025/01/homebrew-website-slub-22/
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gRegor Otherwise the h-entry looks correct for an RSVP. It does have two `p-rsvp` properties so you can remove one of those
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gRegor indiewebify.me doesn't have RSVP specific validation currently, so "reply" is the closest it will get currently. It picks up the `in-reply-to` property, which is a necessary part of an RSVP
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gRegor Re: the IWM migration, commented: https://github.com/indieweb/indiewebify-me/issues/82#issuecomment-2602991936 Nothing new, just making sure the context from IWC SD is on github too
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Loqi [preview] [gRegorLove] This is the in-progress Slim4 migration that I pushed to a new branch during IndieWebCamp San Diego: https://github.com/gRegorLove/indiewebify-me/tree/slim-migration. Anyone is welcome to take it from there and work on it. I can help with questions...
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[develumpen] i'm implementing checkins in my micropub server based on OwnYourSwarm and I'm not sure about the difference between the checkin and location properties
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[develumpen] is location just the h-adr of the checkin? can i ignore that property when storing the data and then get the info from the checkin h-card when rendering the html?
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aaronpk i don't think ownyourswarm sends a location property at all, are you seeing it somewhere?
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aaronpk the docs should describe exactly what it sends https://ownyourswarm.p3k.io/docs
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[develumpen] "h-entry"
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[develumpen] ```{
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[develumpen] I can see it on /import, next to the Swarm Checkin Object, and then on the JSON my server receives:
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[develumpen] "type": [
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[develumpen] ],
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aaronpk oops, got kicked from IRC for the multiline post
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[develumpen] uhm, how can i share code?
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aaronpk gist.github.com or whatever
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[develumpen] https://pastebin.com/KeFxSyMc
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aaronpk hm, I don't remember adding that but probably did for endpoints that don't support the "checkin" property. pretty sure it's a duplicate of what's in the "checkin"
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[develumpen] that makes sense, thanks!
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aaronpk no mention of why, but i found where i added it https://github.com/aaronpk/OwnYourSwarm/commit/d8aa7245891fbd9cf25952ad34741183d04891ac
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[develumpen] hehe it's been there for a while
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aaronpk surprised it's been over 3 years since i've even touched that code
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vinceaggrippino ```html
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vinceaggrippino HTML:
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vinceaggrippino I'm making slow progress implementing Webmentions on my site. I think I've got code that will work for getting the count and I'd love some feedback. I haven't committed yet, so this isn't live anywhere. Am I on the right track? Is there a simple tutorial somewhere that I missed? ...
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vinceaggrippino <div class="footer__webmentions">
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gRegor Hi vince, code should probably be shared in a github gist or similar, won't work well directly in chat.
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vinceaggrippino gRegor: Okay. I'm sorry about that. I thought it would be okay because it's pretty short.
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vinceaggrippino I _did_ commit it since I posted that. Now it's on github and I think this link will take you to the section I'm worried about: https://github.com/VAggrippino/vaggrippino.github.io/blob/cb20bf9d76bc57d6fddf2e5fe53717b3304260aa/js/main.js#L62
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vinceaggrippino [edit] gRegor: Okay. I'm sorry about that. I thought it would be okay because it's pretty short.
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vinceaggrippino I _did_ commit it since I posted that. Now it's on github and I think this link will take you to the section I'm worried about: https://github.com/VAggrippino/vaggrippino.github.io/blob/cb20bf9d76bc57d6fddf2e5fe53717b3304260aa/js/main.js#L62
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gRegor np, it probably shows up fine in Discord, just gets caught up with the bridges
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gRegor If it's more than a few lines
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gRegor I'm not as familiar with webmention JS stuff, but at a glance it looks alright.
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vinceaggrippino gRegor: After I posted that I scrolled up and realized that someone got kicked out of IRC for a multi-line post in an earlier conversation 😅
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gRegor oh no!
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vinceaggrippino I think it was a temporary thing. i.e. not a ban, just something like a _oops... why did I get disconnected..._ 😲
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gRegor Yeah, probably an irc flood thing or the bridge limiting it
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[tantek] does anyone have or use a service to check their home page or post permalink pages to avoid mobile-view regressions? e.g. you get everything working on mobile for a nice presentation, scrolling etc., and then because of some unrelated change, framework update or whatever, somehow your mobile view breaks and you don't notice for a while?
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funkylarma gRegor: Thank you for the heads up. Have removed the h-feed from all single posts.
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gRegor funkylarma++ nice, parsed result looks good! Hope it shows up as an RSVP now
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[KevinMarks] Firefox has a way to switch screen sizes in the dev menu that I've used before
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[snarfed] alternatively, perceptual diff inside CI
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[snarfed] more appropriate for CMSes than individual sites, but there's obviously overlap when people customize their CSS etc
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[snarfed] eg WordPress Friends
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[snarfed] counter to https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#update-activity-inbox
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[snarfed] argh wrong channel, sorry all, disregard
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