#dev 2025-03-10

2025-03-10 UTC
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Loqi the 10 year anniversary of https://tantek.com/2015/069/t1/js-dr-javascript-required-dead — see if this is true! "10 years nothing you built today that depends on JS for the content will be available, visible, or archived anywhere on the web."
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Loqi Countdown set by [tantek] on 2025-01-07 at 10:16pm UTC
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[Trevor_Morris] Oooh, what about if you send a different response when using cURL? `curl -X GET https://www.trovster.com` 🤔
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[Jo] could be fun!
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[Jo] i just implmented a follower count on my homepage based of valid requests to my rss per day + my subscribed feeds on freshrss
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sknebel [Jo]: afaik some feed readers put the subscriber count in the user-agent they send, are you looking at that?
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[Jo] not really, what i am doing to count that probably makes limited sense rn
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[Jo] but thats a good idea
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[Jo] i dont really trust the number im getting right now bc it seems to high
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[Jo] looking at unique IP addresses getting a 200 in response to anything containing blog/feed.rss
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doesnm who is [Jo]
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Dead.garden
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sknebel [Jo]: https://darekkay.com/blog/rss-subscriber-count/
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Loqi [preview] [Darek Kay] Estimating the number of your RSS subscribers
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capjamesg[d] For everyone who asked about my programming language for cats at the last HWC: https://jamesg.blog/kittyscript
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capjamesg[d] [edit] For everyone who asked about my programming language for cats at the last HWC: https://jamesg.blog/kittyscript
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aaronpk I just added a secret feature to Teacup which reads the EXIF data from photos uploaded and extracts the date and location to prefill those fields before posting
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aaronpk Well actually teacup gets the data from the micropub media endpoint response, so the exif data extraction is actually happening in my media endpoint. I should write this up as an extension tho!
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aaronpk It's very helpful for posting backdated posts when I just take pictures of food at a group dinner but don't have time to post them live
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[tantek] That makes a lot of sense. Also very much relate to "just take pictures [at event] … don't have time to post them live"
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[tantek] like that's the default 😂
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aaronpk I should have done this ages ago
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aaronpk ive been manually backdating them for a long time, this saves so much time tho
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Loqi +1
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[schmarty] nice! aaronpk++
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[schmarty] i like the idea of making that a media-endpoint extension. bonus for me as i just rewrote my media endpoint explicitly so i could add extensions 😄
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[schmarty] time/location from EXIF is also a feature i want for a check-in client.
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aaronpk Oh yeah if I ever abandon swarm I would also absolutely use it for checkins
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Loqi 10 years since js;dr https://tantek.com/2015/069/t1/js-dr-javascript-required-dead posted — see what content (if any) from sites dependent on JS for
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Loqi Countdown set by [tantek] on 2023-10-19 at 10:02am PDT
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[tantek] Heh that was set quite in advance
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capjamesg[d] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866577430886350869/1348734892288245870/Screenshot_2025-03-10_at_19.10.30.png?ex=67d08ac0&is=67cf3940&hm=b0cf74a03a8ff7750b5fecef7bfa3517a420d0a788cab39331a615cc0f804649&
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capjamesg[d] My backlink browser extension is coming along:
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[tantek] that's pretty amazing
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[KevinMarks] how does that work? is it based on pages you've visted?
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capjamesg[d] [KevinMarks] It pulls a personal link graph from my web reader.
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capjamesg[d] The link graph is comprised of the links in all posts from the sites I follow.
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capjamesg[d] (all posts that have been in their feed since I subscribed)
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[KevinMarks] It is a personal Technorati then
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capjamesg[d] Since I am subscribed to my webmention.io feed in my web reader, my webmentions should show up, too.
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[KevinMarks] Neat.
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capjamesg[d] I think I'll need another few days before it will be ready for people to try.
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[KevinMarks] In principle you could be sending webmentions for them too
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capjamesg[d] Hm...
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capjamesg[d] I suppose...
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capjamesg[d] I hadn't thought about that.
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capjamesg[d] That's a good idea!
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capjamesg[d] [KevinMarks]++
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[KevinMarks] It's vaguely what I was thinking of with mention.tech, which will send webmentions but also cache them itself. So if the linked-to site doesn't support them explicitly, they can still be found.
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[snarfed] related: https://telegraph.p3k.io/superfeedr , https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/420 , https://github.com/snarfed/hackermention
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[Murray] I'm not sure if anyone else here uses Craft, but new webmention endpoint plugin just dropped! https://plugins.craftcms.com/webmention
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gRegor Nice!
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[Murray] Wiki page updated 😄 Found a few more things in there that were a bit outdated too; Craft has had free-tier access to the full GraphQL integration for a while now (I actually used this in my tech demo at IWC Brighton last year)
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gRegor what is craft
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Loqi Craft is either Craft CMS, a PHP/MySQL CMS, or Craft.do, a document collaboration SaaS https://indieweb.org/Craft
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gRegor what is craft cms
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Loqi Craft is a commercial PHP/MySQL CMS and eCommerce platform, with both hosted and self-hosted options https://indieweb.org/Craft_CMS
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Kolev gRegor, hey. I'm interested in setting up ProcessWire with POSSE and stuff.
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gRegor Oh nice. My setup for that is pretty custom currently, don't have a plugin/module for it. I do have a module available for IndieAuth and Webmention support, though.
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Kolev gRegor, hm. Ouch.
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gRegor The Webmention module I've slowly been upgrading to clean off some rough edges, but still works pretty well for me.
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gRegor What's your comfort level with PHP programming? Their templating doesn't require advanced PHP, but some familiarity with it.
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Kolev gRegor, I don't know PHP.
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Kolev Maybe I should just WordPress.
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gRegor There are some default site profiles on https://processwire.com/download/site-profiles/ and in their modules directory, so you could probably set up a blog without any PHP knowledge, but I'm not as up to date on all the offerings there.
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gRegor They have a pretty responsive and supportive community on the forums there too, but yeah if you're looking for a "few-click" plugin install and config, WordPress might be better suited.
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gRegor Especially if you want POSSE
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[artlung] Every person I've heard who works with CraftCMS has said mostly positive things about it. Good on them adding webmention support.
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