#dev 2025-06-06

2025-06-06 UTC
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[mail918] ↩️ The Fastmail people are working on an ietf standard for a json calendar format
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[mail918] ↩️ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8984/
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aaronpk have been for quite some time
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[mail918] ↩️ I haven't looked at it very thoroughly but their JSON email api isnt incredible but is ~fine.
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[mail918] ↩️ Wait shoot wrong one :p
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[mail918] ↩️ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-calendars/
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[tantek] 🤔
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[tantek] jmap-- previously summarily critiqued, see chat here https://chat.indieweb.org/dev/2025-01-28#t1738071693800400 cc: [mail918] (p.s. don't bother with Slack threads in IndieWeb chat, they get flattened to top posts for IRC / logs anyway)
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Loqi jmap has -1 karma over the last year
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Loqi [preview] [[tantek]] nice that they're trying to advance state of the art in email APIs. not good that they're diverging vocabularies for contacts and calendars with the JSContact and JSCalendar proposals (RFCs) which break from vCard/hCard/h-card, and vCalendar/iCalenda...
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[tantek] aaronpk, my question from January stands, like how have the IETF Area Directors not shutdown the JMAP efforts for a whole bunch of NIH / ignoring of prior successful/adopted RFCs?
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[tantek] also frankly makes me not want to sign-up with Fastmail, if they have a corp culture of unnecessary XKCD 927
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