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itskalvaxus Is this not valid MF2? `<article class="h-entry e-content">`. Do I need to move the .e-content to a lower div?
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[tantek] it is valid but doesn't mean what you think it means.
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[tantek] once you look into nested objects it becomes clear
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[tantek] e.g. <span class="p-author h-card"> = an author property on ancestor object that has a value of an embedded h-card
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[tantek] thus <span class="e-content h-entry"> = e-content on ancestor object that has a value of an embedded h-entry itself
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[tantek] this is also covered in the FAQ: https://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Can_you_mix_properties_and_the_root_class_name
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[tantek] whether or not you need an explicit e-content depends on the existing markup you are using
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itskalvaxus Ahh.. yeah, that offers more flexibility then. So 'root' things like h-entry and h-card need to live on their own (unless you intend on embedding)
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[tantek] e.g. this page uses an h-feed with h-entry children with no explicit e-content and yet works just fine through implied name properties: https://tantek.com/daylists (view source)
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itskalvaxus ```
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itskalvaxus <h2 id="your-mask" class="p-name">Your Mask</h2>
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itskalvaxus <article class="h-entry e-content">
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itskalvaxus <br>The tears under your mask
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itskalvaxus <br>[... more content ...]
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itskalvaxus </article>
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itskalvaxus <blockquote class="dt-published">2004</blockquote>
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itskalvaxus ```
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aaronpk i definitely encourage dumping sample HTML into one of the online parsers and see what comes out
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itskalvaxus Yep, I used pin13 and it only got name and publish date.
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itskalvaxus [tantek]: So maybe leaving e-content and then all of the h-entry is "the whole thing" ..
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[tantek] yes it is possible to do that if your markup is simple enough
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aaronpk i thought the "content" property could not be implied, so you'll never end up with a "content" property unless you explicitly have an e-content class
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itskalvaxus Yeah, computer says no. When testing with the parser, I have to go with this..
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itskalvaxus ```
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itskalvaxus <article class="h-entry">
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itskalvaxus <h2 id="your-mask" class="p-name">Your Mask</h2>
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itskalvaxus <div class="e-content">
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itskalvaxus <br>The tears under your mask
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itskalvaxus <br>[... more content ...]
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itskalvaxus </div>
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itskalvaxus <blockquote class="dt-published">2004</blockquote>
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itskalvaxus </article>
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itskalvaxus ```
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[tantek] correct aaronpk. however the absence of a content property MUST NOT pose a problem for consuming implementations
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[tantek] per the all properties are optional design principle of mf2
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[tantek] for the dt-published I suggest using <time> instead since that's more precisely semantic
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[tantek] for typical h-entry consuming implementations, a p-name ought to be "enough" to provide a "good enough" UX
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itskalvaxus I see it now with your daylists. But for my content, since it's a poem, the title and content are both important. And it looks like, at least the pin13 parser, picks up your content as name, but I'm manually setting it with p-name
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itskalvaxus But for short, note-like, content it would apparently be sufficient to only have h-entry
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[tantek] that's precisely correct
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ramenos kupietz: Very interesting, even if I would prefer not put photos on Flicker anymore, but I like the approach on this. Thanks for sharing.
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ramenos Thanks for sharing the list of CMS. I am aware of most of them. I was more curious to get your personal experience on some of them regarding my specific case, but I will investigate this inventory. 🙂
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cupparex kupietz: holy crap, this is awesome! I love it! Thank you. it looks great on https://crystaltouchton.com/
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cupparex kupietz++
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ulhar4409 hmmm, wanting to try and add "split galleries" for posts on my site (see: twitterlikes when multiple images, but also discord to some extent)
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ulhar4409 i'm also wanting to add thumbnailing but i haven't designed a system for that before :P
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ulhar4409 maybe the most "simple stupid" approach would be to give each upload a corresponding thumbnail fit into a 512^2 box
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ulhar4409 (i do have imagemagick on the server, that'll probably cover my scaling needs)
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Kupietz cupparex++ woohoo! Glad you liked it. Thanks for sharing the link—happy to get to see my stuff up there being enjoyed.
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Loqi 😄
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Kupietz !tell tantek Don't know if this will be of any use to you, especially as it's very WP-specific, but I went ahead and pulled out my Flickr gallery code: https://gist.github.com/kupietools/c45a07aef7888e47a13097b6b8966ee5
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] clever stuff. that code definitely has some good clues regardless of language or CMS.
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Loqi [tantek]: Kupietz left you a message 21 minutes ago: Don't know if this will be of any use to you, especially as it's very WP-specific, but I went ahead and pulled out my Flickr gallery code: https://gist.github.com/kupietools/c45a07aef7888e47a13097b6b8966ee5
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yesoperator kupietz++ seconding tantek, very clear code to port to any solution!
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[morgan] I spent 30 minutes researching bookmarklet techniques and bookmarklet theory, then decided that was cool but that I wanted to do something a little more relaxed and fun
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[morgan] At least on a Saturday
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