#dev 2026-02-17
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[tantek] in this case, since you can't move it, and can't put rel=canonical on the other end, I believe the best you can do is to indicate that the tweet copy is now secondary from your perspective. even if it was "before the fact", linking to the tweet copy with u-syndication indicates that you now consider that link to be the copy, and prefer the version on your own site
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[KevinMarks] We wrote the spec carefully "By adding `rel="canonical"` to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink _SHOULD_ be considered the preferred or definitive version of the current page." - you no longer prefer X, you change the designation.
# [KevinMarks] well, rewrote it carefully https://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=rel-canonical&type=revision&diff=65947&oldid=65946
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# [KevinMarks] New atproto docs site is up - interesting in itself and as an explanation for protocols for openness https://atproto.com/
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[artlung] delighted to have made a small improvement to this page (changed an onChange to an onInput on the button demo). https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/Values/color_value/contrast-color
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bubbybumble putting in here bc of jargon but I have a raspberry pi id love to try hosting from but the idea of port forwarding terrifies me
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# bubbybumble ulhar4409[d]: security reasons
# bubbybumble it looks simple to do but... even though I hear it is safe in theory it seems like a big flaw in your home network to introduce
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# bubbybumble I also am not the only person living here
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paperbritt I have looked into self hosting multiple times and come away knowing exactly how to do port forwarding on my router but also fearing it. Managing a server that is on the same network as my sensitive info seems like bad times waiting to happen.
# bubbybumble yep
# bubbybumble port forwarding looks like using a simple menu
# paperbritt I know firewalls exist but I also know how much of a pain keeping my hosted site up and reasonably bot free has been recently m
# bubbybumble but doing it securely looks like the hard part
# bubbybumble i heard something about cloudflare tunnels a while back
# paperbritt I read someone today talking about self hosting on mastodon and coming to the conclusion that even if it works out it's a lot of upkeep for one person and way more likely to be useful if you band together with a bunch of friends - presumably with a combination of spare time, knowledge and resources between them.
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CrowderSoup I've hosted my own mastodon server before. It _is_ a lot of work.
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[aciccarello] With the PKCE support it should now work with the Wordpress indieauth plugin
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gRegor Successfully posted my like with it, woo! https://gregorlove.com/2026/02/star-proud-to-finally/
# CrowderSoup Yeah, when I was implementing my IndieAuth I thought about allowing non-PKCE but I didn't end up adding it
# [aciccarello] Wohoo. Glad it worked!
# [aciccarello] The Wordpress plugin has required PKCE for a while
# [aciccarello] And it has been in the spec for a long time. Probably worth requiring.
# [aciccarello] Proof Key for Code Exchange
# CrowderSoup what is PKCE?
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Loqi PKCE is short for Proof-Key for Code Exchange (pronounced "pixie"), a standard (RFC 7636) extension to OAuth 2.0 that is used by IndieAuth, that protects against intercepted authorization codes during the OAuth flow https://indieweb.org/PKCE
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# CrowderSoup what is dog fooding?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "dog fooding" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "dog fooding is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# CrowderSoup dog fooding is use what you make
# CrowderSoup ope, I don't think that's what I wanted
# CrowderSoup lol
# CrowderSoup I wanted it to link dog fooding to this:
# CrowderSoup what is use what you make?
# Loqi use what you make is an IndieWeb principle that encourages creators to use the applications, tools, libraries, code, designs, documentation that they create, in particular on their personal website, and the counterpart of the make what you need principle https://indieweb.org/use_what_you_make
# Loqi dogfood in the context of the IndieWeb was used to refer the software practice of metaphorically “eating your own dog food” in particular with using your own creations on your own personal site that you depend on, day to day, however the IndieWeb community prefers to instead use the metaphor “eat what you cook” for this encouragement https://indieweb.org/dogfood
# [aciccarello] CrowderSoup, you were probably looking for "x is /y"
# [aciccarello] what is dog fooding?
# Loqi dog fooding is use what you make https://indieweb.org/dog_fooding
# [aciccarello] what is use what you make?
# Loqi use what you make is an IndieWeb principle that encourages creators to use the applications, tools, libraries, code, designs, documentation that they create, in particular on their personal website, and the counterpart of the make what you need principle https://indieweb.org/use_what_you_make
# [aciccarello] dog fooding is /use_what_you_make
# [aciccarello] Can loqi redirect when there's already a page??