#meta 2018-06-30

2018-06-30 UTC
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gRegorLove Hah, video of the group photo. Missed that that was happening.
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aaronpk impressive list of people who have logged in and then never done anything else https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=&group=&creationSort=1&desc=1&limit=50
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aaronpk some pretty creative sites there
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aaronpk https://arne.app
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Loqi Arne Pierre Govaerts
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gRegorLove outside user: edits? I see some have pages
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aaronpk yeah some have user pages
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aaronpk got some help here fixing up the DB to get around a nasty looking MW error
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aaronpk so now that page finally works
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gRegorLove That is a neat site. h-resume, too!
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aaronpk working on some tricks to automate wikifying people
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[jgmac1106] What kind of edits could Loqi make? I could think of the chatbot script.
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[jgmac1106] That would be cool to make your chat-name from chat
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aaronpk i have a proof of concept of a hook that can run the first time a user logs in
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aaronpk so the idea is it'll look at your home page and find an h-card there
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aaronpk then can populate your user page with that h-card info, and if there's a nickname on your home page it can create your /chat-names entry too
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aaronpk tho i'm not quite sure of this chicken and egg problem here
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[jgmac1106] Brilliant though as you are saying your own domain comes first. Build your house before worrying about town silo
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[jgmac1106] Meant grain silo, actual good thing
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[jgmac1106] My first mixed up farming social media metaphor. All the contexts have collapsed
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[jgmac1106] People want the full Loqi experience and as soon as they see somebody do a who is people be like, "I want that." They then try to figure out how to "join the wiki" and make their profile page. I probably screwed up copying @zegnat's hcard.
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[jgmac1106] Some won't want to connect to chat until they feel their profile is good enough for when somebody asks Loqi, others may join at events and never make another edit (key metric),
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[jgmac1106] Lot of different chickens and eggs but a webhook reinforcing keeping your own house in order is cool.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Miklb Mindless Ramblings" by Michael Bishop on 2018-06-30 https://miklb.com/blog/2018/06/29/4013/
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[tantek] How’s the OSBridge after party? Have a cider for me!
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[chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] I'm missing some context somehow. Can you explain https://indieweb.org/post_type_page_example ?
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[chrisaldrich] [aaronpk] for the chicken and egg problem, perhaps Loqi could be triggered to pretend a user never logged in before and re-run the script if the user asks "Who am I?"
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[tantek] Chrisaldrich I joined the discussion late (with Greg re post types) so I think we may have some more work to do on that page
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[tantek] I need to better explain the why how etc sections
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[chrisaldrich] It looked interesting, but I just couldn't figure out which direction it was going or why....
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[tantek] Maybe slap a work in progress warning header on the top of it? I’m on mobile atm
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[tantek] Or maybe we should move it to /2018/post_type_page_example since it was directly the output of a session at /2018
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www.boffosocko.com edited /2018/nonprofit (+204) "wikified a few links; added missing data about participants" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /2018/indie-access-control (+171) "cleaned up participant links; wiki links; see also links" (view diff)
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[chrisaldrich] I'm curious what the overall RSVP number was versus the actual attendance for IWS?
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www.boffosocko.com edited /2018/indiewhere (+118) "participant links; see also link" (view diff)
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www.boffosocko.com edited /2018/serials (+288) "participant links; link to comics; link to spec" (view diff)
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tantek__ well this is what I would have demo'd if I'd had time to finish on Wednesday: http://tantek.com/2018/181/t1/finished-indiewebsummit-coding-reply-contexts
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] Finished my @IndieWebSummit coding project! Completed plain text readable reply-contexts^1 (instead of just URLs) for all responses; in particular got these working: * in-stream^2 for new GitHub issues * on permalinks for all replies & reacji^3   S...
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jgmac1106 Though I do love the support the edcamp foundation provides to new organizers: https://www.edcamp.org/organize
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jgmac1106 maybe one day we could do similar toolkit boxes
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jgmac1106 [gwg] speaking of which I started section for planning IWC NYC, I want a confirmed location by 7/12 if we don’t have one by then must decide to we a: cancel or b: move to New Haven, if #NHV would do the 14-16 so as not to mess with holiday, really hoping for NYC. If I don’t get response from unis I reached out to I will try some tech groups
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Zegnat “I probably screwed up copying @zegnat's hcard.” - jgmac1106, don’t take my h-card-ing lightly ;)
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jgmac1106 I didn’t but I do see a lot of people going to your page and copying your inline style box and using that
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Zegnat That’s not mine, actually. I think I stole it from gRegorLove
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Zegnat Much like how the code for my {{martijnvdven}} template is based on Ben’s
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Zegnat Not everything I do is original
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jgmac1106 that is how the web gets built
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Loqi [superfeedr] "@amriad @ginatripani @jeffjarvis looking for a three day space donation to run an #IndieWebCamp in NYC..." by Greg McVerry on 2018-06-30 https://jgregorymcverry.com/3940-2/
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Loqi [superfeedr] "It’s absurd that Instapaper is still offline for European users. I’m afraid they’ve lost me and I’m now looking at IndieWeb alternatives." by Stephen Pieper on 2018-06-30 https://stephenpieper.net/notes/4557/
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aaronpk jgmac1106: we don't need a foundation to have a page like that! We have a start to the content already https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamps#How_to_organize
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www.zylstra.org blog edited /User:Www.zylstra.org_blog (+27) (view diff)
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jgmac1106 I know, I am using the guide now, its done well, I was using it as a nonexample. Attracted a lot of donations but that just goes to funding the foundation. Self-perpetuating when the non-org is built more for the web in the long run
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jgmac1106 [aaronpk] not sure where meta issues tracked: Add link in sidebar under resources for HWC and IWC. Or add a heading in sidebar called “Organize”
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/wiki#Suggestions Or the github link there
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www.boffosocko.com edited /2018/education (+8) "fixed several links" (view diff)
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sknebel drops the question if we have policy about people using "indieweb" in domain names ;)
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aaronpk heh
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[dougbeal] Going to Courier coffee If anyone is in the area
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aaronparecki.com edited /2018/Schedule (-26) "/* Tuesday */ new video with intros" (view diff)
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Zegnat sknebel, I guess that’s the trademark issue someone (jgmac1106?) mentioned :P
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Zegnat Well, as long as they stick to the styleguide when writing IndieWeb / indie web …
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[schmarty] aaronpk: thanks for the IWS reimbursements!
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aaronpk 🎉
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Zegnat What those weren’t tracked via indiepay?! :P
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[schmarty] some things were https://martymcgui.re/tag/https://indiepay.me/
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[schmarty] oops i meant https://martymcgui.re/2018/06/30/012955/
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Loqi [Marty McGuire] Payment of $5 made to Malcolm Blaney🍺
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[dougbeal] 🍻
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Zegnat Amazing!
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[schmarty] anyone know who added the bornhack.dk event in August to /Events#upcoming? trying to find who/what/how it relates to IndieWeb for TWITIWAE this week.
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aaronpk looks like sknebel added it https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Events&diff=44161&oldid=43638
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[schmarty] thanks aaronpk. i would not have easily found that on airplane wifi.
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[schmarty] !tell sknebel: are you aware of any IndieWeb-related events planned for bornhack.dk? or IndieWeb community folks attending?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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mblaney_ lol Zegnat I offered to buy beers if schmarty could 'pay' me using indiepay.me
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[dougbeal] Understatement is the night😉. You bought the whole round🍻
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mblaney_ no I just need to fix the site so you can log in with wordpress dougbeal ;-)
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gRegorLove [schmarty], did I make my /pronunciation in time for this week? :)
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gRegorLove Oh wait, based on the email newsletter. nevermind :)
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schmarty gRegorLove: add it to your homepage and add yourself under /pronunciation#IndieWeb_Examples and you'll make it in for next week. :}
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[schmarty] having folks add themselves to that section means they'll appear in the email newsletter, which i am sure to read.
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gRegorLove Yep, already done. Well, my main h-card is on my about page.
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gRegorLove I forgot what day it was. That's been the case most of this week.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "Reply to I attended IndieWeb Summit 2018 | Fogknife" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-06-30 https://boffosocko.com/2018/06/30/reply-to-i-attended-indieweb-summit-2018-fogknife/
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schmarty gRegorLove: awesome! looking forward to shouting you out next week. :}
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[dougbeal] Is it against the spirit of pronunciation to change it monthly?
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[schmarty] dougbeal: you might have staleness issues with people's brain caches.
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Loqi [superfeedr] "👓 IndieWeb Summit 2018 wrap-up | Manton Reece" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-06-30 https://boffosocko.com/2018/06/30/indieweb-summit-2018-wrap-up-manton-reece/
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[dougbeal] I wasn't introducing myself as The Doug 😜
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gRegorLove Going to use emoji in your pronunciation guide?
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[dougbeal] Hadn't considered it😁
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Zegnat emoji are a bit of a mind field. Do you use some descriptor for it? In what language? Or do you stick with the official Unicode names, even if you find them nonsensical?
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[dougbeal] I was thinking a i need my website pronounced aitch tee tee pee
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[schmarty] www.doubleyoudoubleuw.biz
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[schmarty] brb landing in KC.
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[dougbeal] Colon forward slash forwards slash seems awkwars
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sixtwothree.org edited /User:Sixtwothree.org (+690) "Update page with latest work" (view diff)
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schmarty aaronpk++ for all the edited and high def videos!!!
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Loqi aaronpk has 62 karma in this channel (1657 overall)
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aaronpk almost all :)
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aaronpk decided to skip the main room sessions since I don't think the individual videos will add much there
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sknebel .
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Loqi sknebel: [schmarty] left you a message 1 hour, 44 minutes ago: are you aware of any IndieWeb-related events planned for bornhack.dk? or IndieWeb community folks attending?
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sknebel schmarty: sl007 and rivercat were planning on going from what I know, haven't checked if they proposed an indieweb related session or not. I'm currently rethinking if I shouldn't try to go too ;)
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schmarty sknebel: nice!
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sknebel Zegnat: kind of trademark related yeah, although there's a difference between "trademark as in we can force you to stop" and "we'd prefer if you don't" or even a policy of "as long as it's somehow related we don't care"
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aaronpk what is naming?
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Loqi naming is hard https://indieweb.org/naming
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aaronpk lol
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sixtwothree.org edited /User:Sixtwothree.org (+2456) "Add My IndieWeb Setup section" (view diff)
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Loqi [superfeedr] "📺 IndieWeb Summit 2018 Green Room #nonprofit | YouTube" by Chris Aldrich on 2018-06-30 https://boffosocko.com/2018/06/30/indieweb-summit-2018-green-room-nonprofit-youtube/
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