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[jgmac1106] Why do we a new company to seize back control from other companies? Aren't all the pieces for the web still available on the web? Don't the open standards still work...Long been advocating for Privacy through data empowerment...just not sure another start up, even from TBL, is needed
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@jgmac1106 While I trust @timberners_lee & folks behind @inrupt_inc not sure this best approach to save tweb. Just leaving #IndieWebCamp NYC, I believe  current infrastructure for privacy through data empowerment exist. W3c, is where this work occurs. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7513-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1046191059590688768)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Nate, so glad you could join @downes and @iamjessklein in the session. Did (d)evolve into creation of an #IndieWeb version of Pokemon go…but that is how unconferences go, participants in control, underlying tech the same. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7515-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1046194253641252864)
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[jgmac1106] !tell tantek had random thought if we are going to provide lanyards that are not photographed we should think about always providing a space for sessions never recorded. Doesn't have to be part of board but open to those who don't want top be streamed or possibly recorded
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG is watching the reader session while trying to put away junk
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@jgmac1106 Today at #IndieWebCamp friend asked why  @Glitch  just adding a complexity, another layer  to GitHub with  pages and editors? but I come at problem as teacher not  developer. The power of live edits a lesson @Mozilla Thimble taught me well (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7526-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1046243310128508928)
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@jgmac1106 Greatest part of #IndieWebCamp NYC  meeting two friends and mentors I have known for 8 years first time in IRL  @toolness and @jessklein. Just   @epilepticrabbit left on my @Mozilla crew bucket list. Need excuse for #IndieWebCamp Berlin Not sure either… http://jgregorymcverry.com/7521-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1046246925262049281)
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GWG [jgmac1106]: KevinMarks and Pfefferle are on mine
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[jgmac1106] Time for you to start advocating for a few hybrid weeks of teaching you have vacation and free tickets. Pitch it as a cost saving measure
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GWG I told Pfefferle if he said he was showing up, I'd find a way
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[jgmac1106] while also building the skills distributed teams will need to interface back to Éire, not something you should leave up to luck
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[tantek] Yes [jgmac1106] - important to indicate spaces in live feeds and not so folks can choose
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Loqi [tantek]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 59 minutes ago: had random thought if we are going to provide lanyards that are not photographed we should think about always providing a space for sessions never recorded. Doesn't have to be part of board but open to those who don't want top be streamed or possibly recorded
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@horse_eboris New blog post: MicroBlog, Jekyll, MicroPub and IndieWeb https://blog.bmannconsulting.com/micro-blog-jekyll-micro-pub-and-indie-web/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/1046262884139859968)
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@jgmac1106 @eduquinn meet @jmacdotorg, good people, lives in Providence. Totally be down for organizing an #IndieWeb #DoOO meet-up, possibly even a Homebrew Website Club, Providence  also very strong WordPress meet-up community (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7546-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1046268296037830656)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Commercially  understand. When we add badges to ReVIEW  will have LD even if LTI feels  pay to play. Just did #IndieWebCamp  NYC, historically shopkeepers always had to kick money up to  local “standards board” for certification and protection (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7551-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1046275294506745857)
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dj_tjerk_ no, I don't play games
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@RubenVerborgh ↩️ Do keep in mind that, while the vision and specs are mature, the Solid software is currently a prototype aimed at developers. What sets Solid apart is data interoperability without centralized agreement, which (in general) is something the IndieWeb offers. (twitter.com/_/status/1046374098509672448)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Agree. “data interoperability without centralized agreement” sounds like my blog and  #IndieWeb, unless we defining decentralization with no DNS, but that is a solution without a problem, that breaks many solutions to much bigger problems. (http://jgregorymcverry.com/7555-2/) (twitter.com/_/status/1046377006814957568)
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@timmmmyboy ↩️ Looked at it yesterday, pretty half-baked at this stage but an interesting idea (but Ithink there a lot of good ideas with various approaches to same problem including the #indieweb stuff). Can’t get over the fact that he announced it on http://Medium.com… (twitter.com/_/status/1046379265783214080)
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@plutopia Tim Berners-Lee tells Fast Company his radical new plan to upend the World Wide Web via a new decentralized model, Inrupt. http://bit.ly/2Ots1RI #internet #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1046386281872347136)
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@EduQuinn ↩️ Great to connect! An #IndieWeb meetup would be cool. The first home brew site is good & needs some iterating to make it better! (twitter.com/_/status/1046392256670969857)
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@miklb ↩️ the trick will be getting all of the comments and comment meta exported and matched to the posts, but that might come later. Planning on hosting my own microservices for all the IndieWeb bits. (twitter.com/_/status/1046432292401565697)
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aaronpk Oh dear some of the spam is coming through again
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jeremycherfas I just think it is amazing and helpful how much of it you manage to keep at bay.
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aaronpk I do wonder what bits of these conversations are leaking out to other freenode channels
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Zegnat I still wonder if I should just mark all our channels as private and secret, so they do not show up on channel lists and in people’s whois... Not sure how the bots are discovering channels
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Zegnat Should probably just do so with -chat and maybe -meta and see if it makes a difference. And then work that into the update of IRC services commands on the wiki
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aaronpk Zegnat: doing it with -chat makes sense as a way to test it out
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aaronpk I don't know where the bots are getting their list from, it might be too late to hide it from them if the list is cached
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Zegnat I am probably having to run for the night soon. But I will have a look tomorrow aaronpk 👍
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[Rose] If I were the spammer I would definitely be caching the list as well as scanning for new channels. But that's me. I'm also _not_ a spammer.
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[Rose] (Cache it, in case it goes away but still works, and scan because new stuff is always good)
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Zegnat [Rose], it depends. If it is some sort of bot network, you add overhead by having to distribute the extra information, and keeping it updated everywhere. It could be they are all just the same script running independently from eachother. I haven’t really looked into the theories of the current attack.
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[Rose] True, I'm much too thorough to ever build a good network of that kind of bot, I'd be permanently bogged down in the details :P
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[schmarty] Rose++ haha
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Loqi Rose has 1 karma over the last year
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Zegnat #indieweb-chat now has private and secret modes set, as well as registered as private with ChanServ. Lets see if that changes anything.
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aaronpk that's hilarious
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Zegnat For the people wondering what switches I flipped ^^^
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aaronpk yay
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aaronpk idea for new loqi trigger... if someone mentions a user who hasn't spoken in a while, and then they say something, say "a wild ___ appears" :D
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[eddie] That would be awesome!
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aaronpk Loqi << new Loqi trigger: if someone mentions a user who hasn't spoken in a while, and then they say something, say "a wild ___ appears"
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Loqi ok, I added "new Loqi trigger: if someone mentions a user who hasn't spoken in a while, and then they say something, say "a wild ___ appears"" to the "See Also" section of /Loqi https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=52295&oldid=49965
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jacky lol
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jacky did that come from Pokemon or some other pop culture thing?
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aaronpk pokemon afaik
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@vincentlistens ↩️ Take a look at the #indieweb https://indieweb.org it is basically what you already want. Syndicate to other sites and backfeed content from social networks to your own. (twitter.com/_/status/1046488998875725825)
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@nilshauk Cool to see the demos from #IndieWeb NYC :) It's inspiring to see folks hacking on all sorts of projects. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs48ez4rl6k (twitter.com/_/status/1046492658498187265)
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@btincq Looking fwd to this. Who got his/her pod already? Q for decentralization experts: what are the diffs with previous indieweb / VRM endeavors beyond TBL's involvement? cc @XavierLava @stefanobernardi @ndebock @JockelLohkamp @yaoeo https://buff.ly/2OizenU (twitter.com/_/status/1046509446875283457)
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[schmarty] okay! who has hotel recommendations for berlin? i will be in town Oct 30 - Nov 6 :}
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aaronpk yay!
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Loqi :D
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aaronpk I will be at the nhow
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[schmarty] haha wow they have quite the websites
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[schmarty] ah, oops, i get in on oct 31. haha, redeye flights.
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aaronpk I booked through hotels.com
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[schmarty] looks to be a half-hour walk or a 15-20 minute bus ride from nhow to the venue. not bad!
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@bmann ↩️ @rtanglao Netlify probably an easy upgrade for you. Availability / interest Oct 9th for an IndieWeb evening? (twitter.com/_/status/1046515165787709440)
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[schmarty] booked it!
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aaronpk 🎉
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[jgmac1106] note to self, record the remote demos and remix into live demo video in future
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aaronpk oh yeah that would have been nice
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gRegorLove Weird for Coral CDN to go down and they didn't update coralcdn.org. Glad I never ended up following that brainstorm :)
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