#meta 2019-02-10

2019-02-10 UTC
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aaronparecki.com edited /ActivityPub (+314) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /p3k_naming_convention (+3) (view diff)
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[tantek] tinbox << move https://github.com/tantek/post-type-discovery into the indieweb organization, especially to enable moving ptd.spec.indieweb.org onto a new server with auto-deploy stuff set up and aaronpk needs admin access to the repo to do that
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Loqi ok, I added "move https://github.com/tantek/post-type-discovery into the indieweb organization, especially to enable moving ptd.spec.indieweb.org onto a new server with auto-deploy stuff set up and aaronpk needs admin access to the repo to do that" to the "See Also" section of /tinbox https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=56563&oldid=44456
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Loqi [tantek] post-type-discovery: Post Type Discovery editor's draft
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aaronpk 2017 and 2016 are moved now too
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aaronpk I do enjoy a well organized server
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[tantek] wow awesome
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@csageland Looking @ alt to Gcal & found: https://www.teamup.com/ Not sure what #opensource tools are real options, but: https://alternativeto.net/software/google-calendar/?license=opensource ...seems pretty limited. Anyone know good team calendar tools/ protocols? ping @RossSchulman @daniellecrobins @t @aaronpk @konobi #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1094387658594213888)
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[tantek] what is groupware
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Loqi Groupware is all about things like workflow, highly associated with enterprise software in the 1990s, and what killed Netscape https://indieweb.org/Groupware
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[tantek] what is a team calendar
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "team calendar" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "team calendar is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] team calendar is /Groupware
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /team_calendar (+22) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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aaronpk wow there are a lot of email addresses that *did* successfully log in to websub.rocks that I am suspicious are real people actually trying to use it
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[tantek] nice!
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aaronpk ok 2019 is on its way over too
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aaronpk nobody rsvp for like an hour k
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aaronpk lol
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[tantek] lol
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[tantek] any other thoughts from folks on the overhaul I did to the top of https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started ?
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[tantek] or suggestions for further improvement?
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /ActivityPub (+412) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ added jgmac1106" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /reply (+236) "/* Post a reply */ article Sending your First Webmention from Scratch" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 30 karma in this channel over the last year (97 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] nice job on the getting started, now just to get more tutorials up there
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Here is mine: https://jgregorymcverry.com/resume.html it has the correct h-resume mark up, bunch of us doing it, and when when you add yours go put it on the #IndieWeb wiki page: https://indieweb.org/resum%C3%A9 (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/cRWTo) (twitter.com/_/status/1094402990625222661)
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aaronpk wow the github branch protection rule descriptions are really not obvious
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aaronpk I want to set it up so that nothing can be pushed to master directly, and instead requires a pull request review by another person. I know this is possible, but I can't figure out how even reading the help pages.
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aaronpk the copy is just so bad
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aaronpk "[ ]: Restrict who can push to matching branches." "Specify people or teams allowed to push to matching branches."
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aaronpk does that mean if it is checked, then I allow certain people to push? but if it is not checked, nobody can push? or everyone can push?
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aaronpk aha, I have to have three boxes checked to do what I want: https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2019-02-09-18-08-58-AWHBlvdBO6.jpg
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aaronpk "Require pull request reviews before merging", "Include administrators", and "Restrict who can push to matching branches"
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aaronpk wait I might not need the last one
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aaronpk aha I don't. it still prevents me from pushing to master even as an administrator
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aaronpk well that was not obvious
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tantek.com edited /podcasts_about_the_indieweb (+258) "/* Podcast Segments about Indieweb */ archive links for 5by5 episode, put out call for missing mp3 file" (view diff)
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@bridgetstewart @mxbck I've been trying to get IndieWeb syndication working with 11ty & Netlify based on your article. I'm not sure what I'm missing. Are you able to help? It's ok if you are not. :) If you are, here's a Gist: https://gist.github.com/bridgestew/989fb2ed7bc5b91f738fcd7628aa7f5c (twitter.com/_/status/1094426179078180865)
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tantek.com edited /podcasts_about_the_indieweb (+225) "move TWITIIWAE to Past Podcasts, add The Jared White Show episode 5" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2018 (+157) "/* Blog */ 2018-07-02 The Jared White Show" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Micro.blog (+836) "/* Overview */ add differentiation from app.net, based on Brent and Manton's articles" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /selfdogfood (+364) "/* Brainstorming */ thought of how to verb/adjective eat your cooking, thoughts on walk your talk" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /export (+21) "Google+ urgent" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /JSON-LD (+399) "date & blockquote" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /pleroma (+289) "[tantek] added "2018-08-08 https://pleroma.site/notice/2992485 <blockquote>yes the endgame is to publish litepub at IETF imo</blockquote>" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Micro.blog (+165) "[tantek] added "2018-04-17 [https://www.sadlerjw.com/2018/04/17/wrapping-my-head-around-micro-blog-and-indieweb/ Wrapping My Head Around Micro.blog and IndieWeb]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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@jackyalcine The IndieWeb has a nice concept of building blocks that lets you build focused interoperable bits of algorithms that can work together for a cohesive experience. * Trying to determine who posted the content you’re looking at? Try authorship. *… https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/da20eee8-f6d6-4607-88ba-9e8d69a7e30d (twitter.com/_/status/1094476479147196416)
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tantek.com edited /2019/homepage (+470) "split see alsos into subheads, expand a bit, add more see also" (view diff)
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@lightcup ↩️ و يدعو إلى إتباع هذه الحركة و الحصول على دومين خاص لأن الشركات لا يمكن الاعتماد عليها .. كأنه يتكلم بلسانك https://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1094487680891670528)
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@Idfollowher ↩️ @priv_girl food for thoughts https://indieweb.org/deplatforming (twitter.com/_/status/1094496767679389697)
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jgregorymcverry.com created /Tutorial:_Set_up_micro_dot_blog (+1920) "added a micro.blog tutorial" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /Getting_Started (-115) "/* Tutorials */ trying to add microblog tutorial" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] Anyone want to help me try to figure how tables work in wikimedia or mind me removing the tutorial table from Getting Started and replacing with lists because..tables...html...mediawiki..grrrrr
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@jgmac1106 @reclaimhosting looking through discourse for your getting started pages with WordPress I want to add them here: https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started what are the pages I should link to? (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/COkdo) (twitter.com/_/status/1094544627481432064)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /Getting_Started (-441) "/* Tutorials */ made decision to remove table, seemed to favor AWS as hosting solution and it was a table and tables are hard to mantain" (view diff)
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@jgmac1106 @sdepolo Does GoDaddy have a getting started with WordPress guide that we can add here https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started#Tutorials ? (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/cRWAF) (twitter.com/_/status/1094546406495436801)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @lightcup If you want to translate any of http://indieweb.org to Arabic you'd be very welcome https://indieweb.org/other-languages (twitter.com/_/status/1094570528449413122)
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vanderven.se martijn edited /Shortcuts (+548) "/* See Also */ Shortcuts had access to the private directory of iOS, being able to scrape all sorts of data, we know a few more details now" (view diff)
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@NiemanLabFuego IndieWeb https://nie.mn/2UKzPhw via @kevinmarks (twitter.com/_/status/1094571705417297920)
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@readonlythese IndieWeb - https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1094572333766008833)
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@sid_tam IndieWeb - https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1094573237277732864)
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@jgmac1106 I just added a five part video tutorial series on how to add @withknown with @reclaimhosting to the @internetarchive If you want to get started on the most feature rich #IndieWeb CMS I highly recommend Known https://archive.org/details/knownandreclaim (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1PTgIK) (twitter.com/_/status/1094610582018420736)
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@jgmac1106 How to Add an h-card to Blogger #IndieWeb: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/10/how-to-add-an-h-card-to-blogger-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1094633284410228737)
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@stopsatgreen It’s funny for me to see this ‘back to blogging / RSS’ movement, because I never stopped. Always been RSS, even when Twitter became the place for news. Always been blogging in Wordpress, even if I x-post to Medium for reach. POSSE. https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1094636079897034752)
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[jgmac1106] okay now have tutorials for Known, wordpress.com. and Blogger to add to the Getting Started page, will work on that throughout the week
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@bridgetstewart ↩️ It might be that IndieWeb concepts are starting to become easier to adopt for more mainstream folk. There have been a lot of good explanations written lately for how to do it. (twitter.com/_/status/1094638621611708416)
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calumryan.com edited /User:Calumryan.com (+1751) "/* Calum Ryan */ Profile updates and project extra info" (view diff)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ And the more awesome people like you two keep learning otu loud and blogging how you add #IndieWeb tools the stronger and easier the community gets. Make sure to update your pages on the wiki with any relevant "hot-to" or "just added"… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/10/bridgetstewart-and-the-more-awesome-people-like (twitter.com/_/status/1094641466520100869)
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Mikaela https://indieweb.org/icon#Chrome_M31_Beta_for_Android - their documentation goes to 404 error and I cannot figure out the new pageit should link to
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jgregorymcverry.com created /Tutorial:_Set_up_an_Indie_Website_using_Known_on_Reclaim_Hosting (+1902) "Added Known Tutorial" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /Getting_Started (+71) "/* Tutorials */" (view diff)
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@csageland ↩️ @pfrazee @mikeal @BeakerBrowser cc @t ^ FYI #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1094644658867597313)
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@jgmac1106 many people who use WordPress are too attached to the themes and customization to either switch themes or some plugins may conflict with #IndieWeb stuff. You could save WordPress for your long form and move social stream to @withknown or @microdotblog… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/10/many-people-who-use-wordpress-are-too (twitter.com/_/status/1094646162890600450)
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[tantek] Feel free to reply to that csageland tweet with an invitation to /2019/Austin - pretty sure Paul is in Austin!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ a bunch of folks been playing with DAT and trying to figure routes to integrate #IndieWeb building blocks. We have a bunch of @IndieWebCampls coming up Austin, Online, New Haven....all within a month join us: … https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/10/csageland-pfrazee-mikeal-a-bunch-of-folks (twitter.com/_/status/1094650882879381505)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /Getting_Started (+91) "/* Tutorials */ added link to Blogger tutorial" (view diff)
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[tantek] [tmiller] I asked Yulia to book a room for Berlin Organizers meetup in Friday afternoon May 3rd
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[tmiller] [tantek] okay great I’m working on the stuff for the page for berlin, should I list that as an adjacent event ?
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[tantek] We can list it like we did on /2018/Berlin
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Zegnat Hmm. I wonder if mp4 upload could be enabled on the wiki. Thought about uploading the Facebook editor clip I made earlier today for documenting and I can’t
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jacky that reminds me
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aaronpk oh is it not already enabled?
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aaronpk it's just a whitelist of file extensions that are allowed
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aaronpk try now
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aaronpk i'm not sure what the file size limit is tho
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Zegnat A less than 30 second mp4 is tiny though, even compared to e.g. a gif. So things should be fine, I imagine
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Zegnat Trying now
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Zegnat “Maximum file size: 30 MB” – hahahahaha
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Loqi nice
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vanderven.se martijn uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:facebook-create-ui-text-shrink.mp4]]" https://indieweb.org/File:facebook-create-ui-text-shrink.mp4"
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Zegnat 239 KB for the 28 sec MP4
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Zegnat Now lets see if a video tag is allowed
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vanderven.se martijn edited /create (+262) "/* FB Text size adjustment while typing */ Stub with screen recording of the effect" (view diff)
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aaronpk mp4++
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Loqi mp4 has 1 karma over the last year
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Zegnat Not the best video quality I guess. I blame the whole QuickTime -> ffmpeg flow. But easy enough.
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Zegnat If someone knows an easier flow, let me know
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[jgmac1106] what does Nimbus export in? Though seems screen recording not working in FF Developer Edition, but sill in Chrome
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[jgmac1106] Quicktime still dead simple perfect. The 15 dollars I spend a year on screencast o matic best money I spend
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Zegnat What is Nimbus?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Nimbus" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Nimbus is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat QuickTime didn’t want to export higher than 480p, and then still gives you a mov file that needs converting for better browser compatibility (in my experience). So it may be simple to start, but feels like it adds more complexity between recording and publishing
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[jgmac1106] Nimbus is a browser extension that allows for screen capture and screen recording.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /Nimbus (+109) "prompted by Zegnat and dfn added by [jgmac1106]" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] ooh look at the nimbus note app that is new: https://everhelperblog.com/our-products/
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[jgmac1106] and an ambitious road map: https://trello.com/b/yd03OcAi/nimbus-note-roadmap
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[jgmac1106] zegnat looks like one button push to mp4 export
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@bridgetstewart Thanks to @mxbck, I am able to publish from my site to Twitter. Thanks, Max! Here's a post outlining what it took for me to be able to do it with @11ty and @Netlify: http://www.bridgestew.com/journal/how-to-indieweb-syndicate/ https://www.bridgestew.com/notes/2019-02-10-16-09/ (twitter.com/_/status/1094726708534697984)
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[jgmac1106] What is netlify?
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Loqi Netlify is a CDN/static hosting provider with integrated build service, useful for static site generators https://indieweb.org/Netlify
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /Netlify_CMS (+325) "expanded stub" (view diff)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Your #howto tag is amazing. I am going to use this idea! I added your site to the IndiWeb wiki Netlify page: https://indieweb.org/Netlify_CMS I didn't know if you had joined the wiki. If you have feel free to change anything or let me know if you… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/10/bridgetstewart-your-howto-tag-is-amazing-i (twitter.com/_/status/1094735250121461766)
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[kevinmarks] Does QuickTime 7 still give the better export options?
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@cogdog Easy IndieWeb Login with WP-Dimension Theme https://cogdogblog.com/2019/02/easy-indieweb-login/ https://t.co/KCFTnOryE6 (twitter.com/_/status/1094743746216902657)