#meta 2019-02-22

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gRegorLove I think [tantek] will be?
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GWG Whoever is, we'll get together if all are interested
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[manton] Cool, would be good to meet up Friday. I wasn't sure when everyone was getting in.
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gRegorLove I'm in at 2, GWG about 1.
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GWG I have transportation to the hotel downtown, so should be there proml
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GWG promptly
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GWG I have nothing planned except maybe some pre-hack time
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@btopro https://www.webcomponents.org/element/TherapyChat/rss-items --- a web component to pull in and visualize RSS. How ever could this be useful to #indieweb #edtech heros? I guess we'll have to see... (twitter.com/_/status/1098756580064010241)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-02-22.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[chrisaldrich] Aaronpk is it worth removing those unintentional posts to news.Indieweb?
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aaronpk Oh yeah probably
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aaronpk I really need to make some sort of community moderation tool that isn't just me deleting it from the database
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GWG aaronpk: To start, maybe a page explaining what is acceptable?
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jacky word
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@EFFaustin Indieweb Summit is this weekend at Capital Factory, we hope to see some of you there! https://www.austinchronicle.com/events/community/events/indiewebcamp-austin-2019-2444758/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098810904228048897)
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[tantek] !rt https://twitter.com/EFFaustin/status/1098810904228048897
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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[tantek] Also arriving late like aaronpk, though maybe 30 min before if flight goes as planned
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aaronpk Anyone want to take a stab at writing a little section on what's acceptable to post to indie news?
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aaronpk !rt https://twitter.com/EFFaustin/status/1098810904228048897
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Loqi Thanks aaronpk and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1098819084609675265
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jacky aaronpk: sure! would this go in a PR or on its Wiki page?
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[tantek] aaronpk did we decide the actual intended scope of indienews? like is it just for indieweb or is it supposed to replace hackernews/reddit?
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aaronpk It's always intended to be just indieweb related topics
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[tantek] TBH I wouldn't mind the latter
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[tantek] oh ok
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aaronpk jacky: feel free to start on the wiki page if that's easier, but either way is fine! It'll end up in the repo in the end
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jacky the latter seems like what https://indieweb.xyz ended up becoming
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jacky aaronpk: cool!
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aaronpk Yeah but that was unfortunately named
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aaronpk The tagline on news.indieweb.org is "IndieNews is a community-curated list of articles relevant to the Indie Web." but it's not visible on the "how to submit" page
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[tantek] a-ha ok
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loqi.me created /fediverse (+23) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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@webrocker ↩️ @emsuiko yay for a #HomeBrewWebsiteClub chapter in FFM :-) https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club (twitter.com/_/status/1098860007976824832)
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@swentel Indigenous is now available on F-Droid! Location is temporarily not available there, but will come back soon using microG libraries. I will also stop uploading builds to GitHub as you can use that repository now. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.indieweb.indigenous/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1098896701853712384)
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realize.be edited /Indigenous (+71) "/* How to download */" (view diff)
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@jgmac1106 Today's #IndieWeb morning mission: trying to learn node.js made guestbook I can add to blog: https://indieweb-guestbook.glitch.me Page publishes h-feed so folks can add their reader and get notified when people sign. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1srpbC) (twitter.com/_/status/1098908336517537792)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ If you are an educator and you are now trapped in the @wix silo unable to take your website elsewhere find an #IndieWeb friend to help you rebuild your site. Websites get written in HTML and you should be able to take them anywhere. What @wix is doing is… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/22/if-you-are-an-educator-and-you (twitter.com/_/status/1098920081738870784)
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@bradenslen Following: Chris Aldrich - Indieweb, web theorist thinker. Always interesting. https://boffosocko.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098922583695728640)
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@bradenslen Following: Greg McVerry - Indieweb, educator, always in motion. Fun experiments in Indieweb. https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098923204683485184)
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@bradenslen Following: Tantek Celik - Indieweb, founder, web standards. Has a deep understanding of how different parts of the web should interact. http://tantek.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098924428359012352)
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@jgmac1106 how far I made it styling #IndieWeb guestbook, https://indieweb-guestbook.glitch.me and the link if you want to contribute to the project: https://glitch.com/edit/#!/join/b76e59a2-de84-4ffe-a2f9-e4bff5216973 still some work to do on styling tomorrow (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2cZNys) (twitter.com/_/status/1098930809317269504)
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GWG On my way to AUS
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@bradenslen Independent Web is Greater Than The Indieweb: https://ramblinggit.com/2019/02/22/independent-web-is.html (twitter.com/_/status/1098970680429813760)
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@jgmac1106 Hey https://ramblinggit.com would love thoughts on #IndieWeb getting started prototype, a gSlide show to demo nav. Eventually want pathway website walking people do without jargon and text structure of twiki. Advanced pages will link to wiki … https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/22/hey-would-love-thoughts-on (twitter.com/_/status/1098975617452859394)
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[eddie] aaronpk how has the ec2 experimentation gone? I know you've been busy with flights and other stuff, but just thought I should checkin while I'm working on Jitsi Meet stuff
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aaronpk i haven't had a chance to poke at it again, and i'm about to head in to a 4-hour workshop then rush to the airport for austin so doesn't look like i will be able to get it turned on in time
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[eddie] Sounds good. I can have mine run during the whole weekend, as it doesn't cost much
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aaronpk ok
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aaronpk want me to point meet.indieweb.org at it?
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[eddie] Yeah, that would be better than the existing domain 🙂
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aaronpk what's the IP?
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[eddie] 34.199.47.21
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aaronpk ok done give it about 20 minutes
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[eddie] :thumbsup:
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@davemillar Southbound. Headed to Austin for #indiewebcamp this weekend. https://www.instagram.com/p/BuMHZgKhGbL/ https://t.co/4RcZn3a1HT (twitter.com/_/status/1098986307299229696)
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@manton2 IndieWebCamp starts tomorrow. I’m downtown this morning, heading over to Capital Factory to do a walk-through of the venue and make sure we’re all good for the weekend. https://2019.indieweb.org/austin (twitter.com/_/status/1098999791948845056)
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[tantek] getting psyched!!! just gotta pack 😂
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aaronpk Yay!
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aaronpk I had to pack on Sunday lol
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Loqi woot
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[tantek] so I have 5 days straight of all day "meetings" coming up. IWC Austin 2/23-24, CSSWG f2f @ SF 2/25-27. taking a 6:30am flight 😭 from Austin to *hopefully* make the 9am start at CSSWG f2f 😂
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GWG tantek, when do you get to Austin?
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manton.org edited /2019/Austin (+22) (view diff)
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GWG Austin I am in you.
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@dshanske In Austin for Indiewebcamp. (twitter.com/_/status/1099015071072702468)
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-02-20-homebrew-website-club (+0) "IRL meetups: Nur & Kberg with 6, NYC & SF with 3" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2019/Austin (+174) "/* Blog posts */ press event post" (view diff)
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[eddie] Still getting the actual YouTube streaming plugin installed to Jitsi Meet, but https://meet.indieweb.org is alive!
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tantek.com edited /2019/Austin (-1) "move see also notes to Notes section" (view diff)
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GWG Eddie, great
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jacky _nice_
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@MstrKapowski Launching #IndieWeb Textpattern: https://mrkpw.xyz/b/1ui (twitter.com/_/status/1099023836631191552)
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[gRegorLove] En route to Austin. Hello, SFO! I volunteered for a different flight in exchange for a voucher. Only arrives a few hours later. #worthit
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[gRegorLove] Buy one IWC flight, get one free
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[davidmead] Hoping to catch some IWC on the live streams
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@manton2 First time at Capital Factory? Look for these doors tomorrow inside the building lobby. You can still register for IndieWebCamp here. $5 or free when you blog about the event! https://2019.indieweb.org/austin (twitter.com/_/status/1099033907780038656)
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boffosocko.com edited /2019/Austin (+221) "/* Remote Participation */ added links to chat and notice to watch here for updates, to give newbies a better idea of what to do/expect." (view diff)
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loqi.me created /Textpattern (+171) "prompted by chrisaldrich and dfn added by chrisaldrich" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Textpattern (+120) "chrisaldrich added "https://mrkapowski.com/2019/02/launching-indieweb-textpattern.html" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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@ChrisAldrich Quick reminder that IndieWebCamp Austin is this weekend. If you're in the #DoOO or #edtech spaces & can't attend in person, there should be some interesting conversations and work that can be done to participate remotely to help you improve [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2019/02/22/reminder-indiewebcamp-austin-streaming-is-this-weekend-2-23-24/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099044552281739264)
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@WorkingWriter Going to try to fit some of this into this busy weekend. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/1099051173275938824)
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@BWLNG IndieWebCamp is tomorrow in Austin. Still time to sign up if you’re in the area: https://2019.indieweb.org/austin (twitter.com/_/status/1099055023458316290)
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[eddie] aaronpk For the YouTube recording we need a couple more IndieWeb subdomains to all point at the same IP. Let me know when/if you have the time to add these
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@manton2 Excited for IndieWebCamp tomorrow. If you’re disappointed in modern social networks and looking for what’s next on the open web, I hope you’ll join us at Capital Factory in Austin. More details and registration here. https://2019.indieweb.org/austin (twitter.com/_/status/1099058506517364737)
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[manton] [aaronpk] I know you're traveling so sorry to bug you, but do you mind deploying that pull request to the 2019.indieweb.org Austin schedule? (I had moved the times a little yesterday.)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-02-22.html
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[dave] Arrived and checked into my hotel. If anyone is up for coffee or drinks or dinner HMU
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chrisaldrich tantek (or maybe gRegorLove), may be about time to remove https://indieweb.org/2018-12-indieweb-challenge from the wiki sidebar...
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[eddie] [manton] When creating the PR did you specifically mark aaronpk as the reviewer? Or did the repo automatically do that?
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[manton] [eddie] I assigned to him but just marked him as the review literally just now. So probably my fault he didn't get to it yet. Also, travel, I assume. 🙂
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swentel hmm dates for berlin are not right ? Unless that's the pull request :)
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[eddie] I think more of us can approve it, but I think because you assigned it to him it limited the reviewers to him 🙂 If it allows you to remove the "assignee" it may open up and allow others to approve it
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[eddie] Oops, I probably should have tagged [manton] so he knew I was responding to him 🙂
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[manton] Oh interesting. Thanks. I'll add you as a reviewer too if that's okay. 🙂
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[eddie] Sure :thumbsup:
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[manton] Actually it wouldn't let me add you. Shrug.
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Zegnat [manton], it is all merged up
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[eddie] We must not have gotten that all worked out.
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[eddie] good job Zegnat!
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[eddie] Zegnat++
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Loqi Zegnat has 33 karma in this channel over the last year (164 in all channels)
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[manton] @Zegnat Thanks!
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[manton] Zegnat++
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Loqi Zegnat has 34 karma in this channel over the last year (165 in all channels)
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Zegnat For future reference: if you go to the “Files changed” tab there is a button for starting a review. I think everyone should have that one. After leaving a review that is an approval, the merge button in the GitHub UI should turn green (assuming it isn’t your own PR)
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Zegnat I think you should have been able to do that too [eddie], if you are a member of the indieweb org
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[eddie] ohhh I didn't complete my "invitation"
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[eddie] haha that's the problem
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[eddie] There we go!
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[eddie] 🙌
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swentel the front page needs a PR as well to change the dates for Berlin :)
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@bradenslen IndiewebCamp, Austin is happening tomorrow. Register here https://2019.indieweb.org/austin (twitter.com/_/status/1099067360785416192)
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aaronpk Did you figure out that anyone can merge and deploy it?
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[eddie] yep, PR was merged and deployed
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[eddie] Well Austin, that is
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[eddie] a PR doesn't exist for Berlin yet
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[eddie] aaronpk When you are "bored" at the airport or on the plane can you point the following 4 sub-subdomains to the same IP? 34.199.47.21 These are needed for the YouTube streaming to function.. kind of insane, but that's Jitsi for you... recorder.meet.indieweb.org, conference.meet.indieweb.org, auth.meet.indieweb.org, internal.auth.meet.indieweb.org
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[manton] [dave] I can't make dinner, but I'm happy to meet up for a drink later if people are still around.
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aaronpk hah wow okay
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@jgmac1106 So in trying to continue my work on credentialing and #IndieWeb I made a badge isssuing site for one of my classes: https://edu307.glitch.me/badges/literacyimage.html Need to style it a bit more, and not everyone is accepting webmentions yet but we will get there #Openbadges… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/22/so-in-trying-to-continue-my-work (twitter.com/_/status/1099070707022131201)
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@tomwiththeweath IndiewebCamp Austin is this weekend! https://herestomwiththeweather.com/2019/02/22/indiewebcamp-austin-is-this-weekend/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099073573996642305)
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tantek.com moved /Geofencing to /geofencing "generic term, not proper noun"
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[tantek] !tell GWG I recall you saying you're working on something with /geofencing - could you add what you're working on that's indieweb related to a /geofencing#Brainstorming section? We really should make sure every new page has its indieweb relevance on it
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG Will do soon. If not remind me tomorrow
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[tantek] GWG, preferably in next 15 minutes so it gets into the newsletter
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[tantek] Really trying hard for any new pages in the newsletter to have indieweb relevance in them
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aaronpk Hm I have a geofencing feature I can add there
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[tantek] please do!
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[tantek] then we can expand the dfn to include a parenthetical (like doing abc with xyz) of a real indieweb example
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aaronpk geofencing << https://aaronparecki.com/2017/05/19/18/still-here
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Loqi ok, I added "https://aaronparecki.com/2017/05/19/18/still-here" to the "See Also" section of /geofencing https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57090&oldid=57088
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] I'm Still Here!
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aaronpk geofencing << {{aaronpk}} - my site creates a geofence around my latest checkin, and when I leave the geofence it removes the blue dot that appears on the checkin post
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Loqi ok, I added "{{aaronpk}} - my site creates a geofence around my latest checkin, and when I leave the geofence it removes the blue dot that appears on the checkin post" to the "See Also" section of /geofencing https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57091&oldid=57090
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tantek.com edited /geofencing (+246) "IndieWeb Examples with aaronpk from see also, add real world indieweb example summary to dfn" (view diff)
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[tantek] what is a geofence
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "geofence" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "geofence is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] hmm
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[tantek] going to move it to that
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aaronpk 👍
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tantek.com moved /geofencing to /geofence "use singular noun because it reads better, shorter, simpler"
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tantek.com edited /geofence (+0) "fix dfn g" (view diff)
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[tantek] what is a geofence
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Loqi A geofence is a virtual geographic boundary that either triggers or limits actions, information, or granularity thereof when crossing it, like Aaron Parecki’s pulsing blue dot feature https://indieweb.org/geofence
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[tantek] there we go
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aaronpk Nice
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swentel hmm gives me an idea to add something to indigenous to auto post coordinates via micropub, even in the background
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aaronpk Oo
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[tantek] Newsletter looks pretty good https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-02-22.html - anyone else want to give it a quick proofread?
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aaronpk I'd switch mine to micropub
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[tantek] We have ~4 min left to make fixes
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swentel not sure whether that should be a 'checkin' then though
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swentel do we have something for that?
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aaronpk Nope
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[schmarty] aaronpk did you get a chance to remove the "extra" indienews posts?
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aaronpk Ah crap
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aaronpk im in the security line too now
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aaronpk and no sql client on my phone
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[schmarty] heh
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[schmarty] spoa--
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Loqi spoa has -1 karma over the last year
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[schmarty] hmm i thought we were using that acronym for single-point-of-aaron karma 😆
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swentel hehe
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[tantek] SPOA << IndieNews accidental spam removal
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Loqi ok, I added "IndieNews accidental spam removal" to the "See Also" section of /single_point_of_aaron https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57096&oldid=55421
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-02-22.html
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[tantek] ok what did I screw up. "geofence" disappeared from the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-02-22.html
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aaronpk it's showing up as a change not a new page now
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aaronpk Did it exist before?
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-02-22.html https://t.co/Rbe8N8bglH (twitter.com/_/status/1099085196899450881)
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[tantek] nope, /geofence didn't exist until today, but it was created as a result of a move
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[tantek] so maybe that's why it doesn't show up?
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[tantek] but the page that got moved there itself was created this past week
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[tantek] so it should still apply / work?
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aaronpk must be some weirdness in the way MW reports these changes or the way Loqi is looking at them
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aaronpk [tantek]: re indiewebcamp micro.blog account, I have always wanted to host that on our own domain, and I had secretly hoped I could get p3k built out well enough to a point that I could easily deploy it for project accounts like that
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aaronpk micro.blog is definitely the fastest way to do that now, but it doesn't really support reposts though
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aaronpk [eddie] btw DNS entries are done
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[eddie] aaronpk 👍 awesome, thanks! I’ll verify things are working after dinner then 🙂
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Nate thinks they would be easy to port to #OpenBadges spec for people who want but was looking for way to badge from my domain after last 5-7 years of trying this and that, plus its really for #IndieWeb community and they have built in… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/22/concentricsky-nate-thinks-they-would-be-easy (twitter.com/_/status/1099095144341651456)