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@khurtwilliams Small IndieWeb Webring: https://wp.me/pn73N-csG (twitter.com/_/status/1099099541398306823)
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chrisaldrich GWG++ for bringing back his avatar!
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Loqi GWG has 16 karma in this channel over the last year (161 in all channels)
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GWG chrisaldrich, no one told me it vanished again
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GWG I need to add a redirect
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[gRegorLove] [dave] I'm getting to my hotel about 8 and am up for food after.
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[gRegorLove] I know that's late dinner hah
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[dave] I'm with GWG in the lobby, having just finished a brief walk and talk
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[dave] No worries
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[gRegorLove] Oh cool. We'll see you soon :)
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[gRegorLove] *well
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[manton] I'm not going to make it back downtown tonight after all, so I'll see y'all tomorrow morning!
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[dave] gRegor do you have any food ideas in mind?
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@davidmead Manton Reece: https://www.manton.org/2019/02/22/excited-for-indiewebcamp.html (twitter.com/_/status/1099121850561454081)
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GWG [manton] Any food recommendations near the venue? At this time of night?
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @mims Come on over to http://chat.indieweb.org and discuss the options. Or drop by Austin this weekend https://2019.indieweb.org/austin (twitter.com/_/status/1099125155664723969)
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[manton] @GWG What are y'all looking for? To be honest, I usually just pull up Foursquare/Swarm/Yelp and see what is nearby. 🙂 Closest restaurants will probably be on Congress or around 6th Street.
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GWG Not crowded?
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aaronpk If anything is crowded everything is crowded
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aaronpk that's my motto and I'm sticking to it
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[manton] That logic holds up. 🙂 Friday night, too.
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@jgmac1106 Google Photos Getting Too Smart? #IndieWeb https://t.co/Dd9Q4rAKvb (twitter.com/_/status/1099142562798100480)
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@cleverdevil The #IndieWebCamp Austin FOMO is real! Have fun, folks. (twitter.com/_/status/1099151603930722304)
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[tantek] GWG gRegorLove where'd ya end up? And are you still around? (Also my iPod touch is finally autocompleting gRegorLove like that!)
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[tantek] If you're still looking, pretty sure Halcyon is open
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GWG tantek, we had something to eat and came back to the room
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[tantek] GWG cool. Will post something
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@t Hello #Austin! Any Austin friends out & about downtown tonight? Looking forward to #IndieWebCamp Austin tomorrow morning at Capital (in the Omni lobby) Still a few spots available: https://2019.indieweb.org/austin #indieweb #openweb #dweb #independentweb http://tantek.com/t4z91 (twitter.com/_/status/1099173945079709696)
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[tantek] ooh that Capital Factory photo needs to go on the wiki
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[tantek] hah in the HTML comments <!-- could use another photo of actual venue -->
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@jjdelc Ok, second coding chore of the night finished. I finally have the char counter I wanted on https://grumble.isgeek.net/ #micropub #indieweb https://jj.isgeek.net/2019/02/23-064851/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099199392341463040)
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@astrojuanlu Una semana sin Twitter (personal) me ha venido bien para reflexionar sobre su importancia y utilidad. Este 2019 estaré intententando recuperar el control sobre mi identidad digital y mis datos. Nos vemos en la #indieweb https://indiewebify.me/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099212041288593408)
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@astrojuanlu Una semana sin Twitter (personal) me ha venido bien para reflexionar sobre su importancia y utilidad. Este 2019 estaré intentando recuperar el control sobre mi identidad digital y mis datos. Nos vemos en @poliastro_py y en la #indieweb https://indiewebify.me/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099213212942323713)
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@discoursology Yes, definitely interested in indiewebcamp for education spaces. Hope I can drop into this virtually this weekend: (twitter.com/_/status/1099215099594719232)
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@KarlAlexPauls ↩️ @randileeharper We need http://indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/1099218403703701504)
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@ChrisAldrich I’m continually astounded by @pfefferle's excellent work with the ActivityPub plugin for #WordPress! It’s simply brilliant that my IndieWeb powered website can act much like a version of Mastodon and federate with ActivityPub platforms [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2019/02/23/55744471/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099236259380117504)
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[eddie] Well the recording/streaming function of our self-hosted Jitsi Meet is not happy 😞 We might not be able to use the self-hosted version to stream IWC Austin
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jeremycherfas Bummer.
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[eddie] I take it back!
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[eddie] Victory at 4:59 AM Local Time! 🙌
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sknebel [eddie]: good night then? :D
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sknebel or already up, and good morning?
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sknebel (also, can you put any traps you encountered on the wiki, e.g. a Jitsi meet page? it'd be annoying if we had to recreate a server and the details got lost)
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[eddie] Yeah, definitely plan on writing everything up on the wiki
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[eddie] and it would be good night 🙂 haha
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jeremycherfas [eddie]++ for valour
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk,tantek Ping me over Slack DM to make sure I see your message if you have any questions about Jitsi Meet
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@MstrKapowski The more I use it to write #IndieWeb Textpattern articles, the more I’m reminded how much of a joy the Textpattern editing interface is. Comparing writing in TXP vs WordPress, on mobile, is like night and day. (https://mrkpw.xyz/b/1uw) (twitter.com/_/status/1099251471378350080)
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@adactioLinks indiekit | An IndieWeb publishing toolkit https://paulrobertlloyd.github.io/indiekit/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099252599159705600)
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[eddie] Jitsi Meet FYI info. https://meet.indieweb.org/sessionHashtag is how you visit a room. Unfortunately Jitsi Meet doesn’t support special characters, only alphanumeric characters
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[eddie] The first person is considered the moderator
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[eddie] (For the future the goal is to have more control over that)
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[eddie] The moderator can record a local mp4 file to the server
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[jgmac1106] Eddie if you ate still awake instead of early......
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[eddie] I believe anyone can stream to YouTube Live as long as they have the token from YouTube (or if on an iOS device, it also supports Google OAuth login)
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[eddie] ([jgmac1106] yes, still awake for the next 3 minutes lol)
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[jgmac1106] Grrrrrr..... But thx..... Baby getting up in four minutes
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[eddie] Uh oh! Good luck!
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[jgmac1106] Meant yours silly, but thx for jitsi set up
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[eddie] Oh! Haha
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[eddie] He seems pretty far gone. I think I’ve got a couple more hours before he wakes up
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@jgmac1106 For people just starting out on @glitch and don't know what to do when they finish an app and how to get it on their website here is a video on on the .env file. Watch that I will try to create a walkthrough tutorial as part of @IndieWebCamp Austin this… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/23/for-people-just-starting-out-on-glitch (twitter.com/_/status/1099272577070129152)
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@jgmac1106 Morning all, hoping I can add my new webmention badging platform to #edu407 and then get some grant writing time in on the next #indieWeb grant...Then it is off to the Pinewood Derby. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/yeOSY) (twitter.com/_/status/1099274953248120832)
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@davemillar My look for day one of #IndieWebCamp Austin. Copped the shirt and bandana at an army surplus store in Killeen. #mirrorselfie https://www.instagram.com/p/BuOV8cQBqdd/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099288287653564416)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Really bummed not to be in Austin with the taco king but my kids will probably remember building pinewood derby cars with me than I will remember building blogs #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2af76b) (twitter.com/_/status/1099288887426453505)
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@skotperez Obituaries for digital services by @indiewebcamp: "Site deaths are when sites go offline, taking content and permalinks with them, and breaking the web accordingly." https://indieweb.org/site-deaths c @numeroteca (twitter.com/_/status/1099292193829867520)
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[tantek] What is Textpattern
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Loqi [tantek]: [eddie] left you a message 2 hours, 50 minutes ago: Ping me over Slack DM to make sure I see your message if you have any questions about Jitsi Meet
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Loqi Textpattern is a content management system that can be used to create a personal site and be part of the IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/Textpattern
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[tantek] Textpattern << testimonial: good mobile UI: https://mrkapowski.com/2019/02/6896.html ( https://twitter.com/mstrkapowski/status/1099251471378350080 )
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@MstrKapowski The more I use it to write #IndieWeb Textpattern articles, the more I’m reminded how much of a joy the Textpattern editing interface is. Comparing writing in TXP vs WordPress, on mobile, is like night and day. (https://mrkpw.xyz/b/1uw) (twitter.com/_/status/1099251471378350080)
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Loqi ok, I added "testimonial: good mobile UI: https://mrkapowski.com/2019/02/6896.html ( https://twitter.com/mstrkapowski/status/1099251471378350080 )" to the "See Also" section of /Textpattern https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57104&oldid=57082
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Loqi [Chris McLeod] The more I use it to write IndieWeb Textpattern articles, the more I’m reminded how much of a joy the Textpattern editing interface is. Comparing writing in TXP vs WordPress, on mobile, is like night and day.
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@patrickrhone Oh, I may have failed to mention here that I’ve started a little podcast. What the Indieweb kids call a microcast. Trying to keep all episodes at no more than five minutes. Find it here: http://rhonecast.micro.blog/ Subscribe feed here: https://rhonecast.micro.blog/podcast.xml (twitter.com/_/status/1099301883443843074)
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@jgmac1106 #edtechchat folks #edchat teachers have more websites disappearing more than any other industry. #IndieWeb need your help documenting theses Site Deaths: https://indieweb.org/site-deaths sign into wiki with your domain and share your pain. … https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/23/edtechchat-folks-edchat-teachers-have (twitter.com/_/status/1099308154460999680)
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert Lloyd] you may be interested in: https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin#Remote_Participation
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[gRegorLove] [manton] Tom, David and I are here.
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[manton] Cool, I'll find y'all.
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[schmarty] every Tom, Dave, and gRegor
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[schmarty] cracks dumb jokes to fight the FOMO
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[dave] I’m at the front entrance but it's locked. It's there a different one we're meant to use or am I just impatient and early?
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[dave] Is there*
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[dave] I misread the signage and now understand that I need to use the 8th Street entrance
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[gRegorLove] schmarty++
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[dave] Wait, the 8th Street entrance also says to use the 8th Street entrance. I am confused. Do I enter through the hotel entrance?
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[gRegorLove] [dave] yes, then capital factory room 150
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@t Excited for #IndieWebCamp #Austin starting soon! Check out the (and add yourself to) remote participation if you can’t make it in person! https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin#Remote_Participation #indieweb #openweb #dweb #independentweb http://tantek.com/t4zA1 (twitter.com/_/status/1099325409349513217)
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[tantek] paulrobertlloyd++
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@TaylorJadin ↩️ @ChrisAldrich Can't participate this weekend but I'm going to keep IndieWebCamp Online on my calendar! (https://stream.jadin.me/s/4EtO8) (twitter.com/_/status/1099332333826539520)
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aaronpk did Kaja forget how to watch the youtube channel for new streams?
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Loqi aaronpk: [eddie] left you a message 5 hours, 27 minutes ago: Ping me over Slack DM to make sure I see your message if you have any questions about Jitsi Meet
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dougbeal What happens if you share the live youtube video over Jitsi?
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sknebel aaronpk: one sec
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jacky Like stream it via jitsi?
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sknebel aaronpk: the calendar bit loves to fail, activated it manually
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dougbeal Now probably isn't the time to break it :)
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sknebel and there it is
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aaronpk nice
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aaronpk dougbeal: we're gonna do the other direction. use jitsi to stream to youtube. (hopefully)
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aaronpk [eddie] do you know if that works btw?
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aaronpk we forgot to actually test that with the self-hosted jitsi
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sknebel from scrollback: I believe anyone can stream to YouTube Live as long as they have the token from YouTube (or if on an iOS device, it also supports Google OAuth login)
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sknebel eddie was up until 5.5 hours ago setting that up, so might not be around
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[eddie] aaronpk I didn’t have any YouTube api tokens (my account can’t live stream)
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[eddie] But the same software does local recording so I verified local recording works
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[eddie] So YouTube SHOULD work just no official test
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aaronpk eddie++ cool
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sknebel [eddie]++
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dougbeal How does the etherpad integration work? Chat gets logged to etherpad?
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[eddie] dougbeal: Jitsi Etherpad or just normal Etherpad?
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dougbeal eddie: Jitsi
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[eddie] So unfortunately that’s the one thing I didn’t finish. I probably wouldn’t recommend using the Jitsi Etherpad because it’s still using a random document string.
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dougbeal eddie: ok.
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[eddie] So the only people that will see it is those in Jitsi
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dougbeal eddie++ Jitsi-fu
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[eddie] But next IWC the built in Jitsi should connect to the same Etherpad as all other people in person
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GWG To summarize the Code of Conduct...Be Excellent to Each Other
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@mickael If you are interested in the IndieWeb, you can watch IndieWebCamp Austin live stream: https://youtu.be/bGENDlYMnm4 (twitter.com/_/status/1099340641174212608)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Good morning campers! The YouTube livestream of IndieWebCamp is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGENDlYMnm4 Live web chat: https://chat.indieweb.org/2019-02-23#bottom (twitter.com/_/status/1099341047841214464)
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[tantek] I'm going to try to upload photos to the wiki as we go
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[Rose] Audio has dropped on my live stream
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[Rose] Anyone else?
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swentel yeah here too
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dougbeal yeah
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GWG Try it now?
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dougbeal back
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[Rose] Very quiet
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gRegorLove audio better?
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swentel much better
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dougbeal yep
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chrisaldrich Thanks Eddie, I was just watching out for a future bottleneck for the remote folks.
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[eddie] Oh definitely! We should absolutely have some links on the page.
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[eddie] The good news is, as soon as the sessions are announced we can enter ALL the session links rather than waiting for the individual rooms to be set up new for every session
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gRegorLove sweeeeet
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[tantek] [schmarty] are you watching remotely too?
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GWG [eddie]: I'll be using my chromebook for Room #2, just tell me what you need me to do
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[eddie] GWG when the sessions are announced I’ll try to edit the wiki with links. But for your knowledge the links for each session are https://meet.indieweb.org/{sessionHashtag} just like Etherpad in the past
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[eddie] From there it’s VERY similar to Google Hangouts
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dougbeal eddie: hurm, could probable make a mediawiki template to DRY up the links?
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[eddie] Ohhh!
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[eddie] Great Idea!
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dougbeal eddie: let me see if there is anything like that
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dougbeal eddie: don't see anything that looks like that... any naming suggestions? Haven't had enough coffee to think of one
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aaronpk i think these little rechargeable batteries don't hold a charge very long
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aaronpk TIL
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dougbeal Template:LiveJitsi ?
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[eddie] dougbeal Template:JitsiSessionLink ?
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dougbeal eddie: much better
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dougbeal What is Template:JitsiSessionLink
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Template:JitsiSessionLink" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Template:JitsiSessionLink is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] if anyone remote is <!here> and wants to help out - can you embed the photo uploads in a new Photos Day 1 page?
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[tantek] linked from /2019/Austin
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dougbeal eddie: should/could we just urlencode the session name?
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[eddie] Can we do that in mediawiki?
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[eddie] I think that’s my concern I’ll google it
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aaronpk this is why we always create a hashtag with lowercase letters for each sesison
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aaronpk don't get fancy :)
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[eddie] Okay so the sessions are always lowercase letters?
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aaronpk right we always do session-name
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aaronpk hyphens to separate words
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[eddie] Perfect!
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aaronpk that becomes the etherpad and wiki page name
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dougbeal {{JitsiSessionLink| title = Blah blah blah | session = blah}}?
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@davemillar "The API sucks..." -- Rayna Harris, on the topic of Twitter #indieWebCamp #indieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1099350797366771712)
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dougbeal Blah blah blah <eth link> <jitsi link>?
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gRegorLove Can someone stub the schedule slots on /2019/Austin/Schedule
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jeremycherfas Watching on youtube is ok, but I want to look at jitsi too. Is there a link? Not seeing one at https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin
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aaronpk no jitsi until sessions start
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jeremycherfas Ah. Thanks
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dougbeal Ok, on schedule
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[tantek] Manton intro and social reader talk photos upoaded ^^^
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[tantek] uploaded even 😂
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[tantek] schmarty sounds fun!
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[schmarty] tantek: not streaming. planning comedy shows today
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[jgmac1106] schmarty you need to make it a multimedia comedy show so Adafruit gives you stuff and maybe pays you...
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dougbeal What are the rooms called in Captial Factory called?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rooms called in Captial Factory called" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rooms called in Captial Factory called is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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@ATxTE ↩️ Great going @indiewebcamp, a lively crowd for #IndieWebCamp on a Saturday morning @CapitalFactory just a couple of weeks b4 #SxSW! #indiedev (twitter.com/_/status/1099353071673577472)
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[tantek] not going to try to post demos photos until after demos are done
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[tantek] might even introduce myself to everyone in person and ask explicit permission to post their photo
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[tantek] since I don't think we did a photo policy thing at this IWC
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dougbeal 45 minute sessions?
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gRegorLove Probably. Not sure.
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jeremycherfas That was really great. Thanks to everyone there for the equipment, the servers, the scribing; all of it.
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gRegorLove dougbeal, three spaces: main room, johnny five, open area
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gRegorLove times look good
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dougbeal gRegorLove: ugh, reorg columns :(
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gRegorLove sorry :(
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dougbeal tantek: The photos go https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin#Photos, or on 2019/Austin/Photos?
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@jackjamieson Really enjoying the live stream of IndieWebCamp Austin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGENDlYMnm4 Seems like a lot of new faces, and some of the homepage demos highlighted the political (and emotional) stakes of carving out one’s own space on the Internet.  I’ll be… https://jackjamieson.net/?p=4128 (twitter.com/_/status/1099365763943710720)
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dougbeal Which room is unscheduled?
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[eddie] tantek: is there a photo of the session grid?
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aaronpk https://i.imgur.com/LOnThsb.jpg
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[eddie] aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 47 karma in this channel over the last year (258 in all channels)
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[eddie] Oh no it’s blurry! Lol
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[eddie] Imgur—
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[eddie] imgur--
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Loqi imgur has -1 karma over the last year
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[eddie] Oh actually imgur is fine, Slack derezed it
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[tantek] dougbeal let's start with /2019/Austin/Photos
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[tantek] And after we're done we can curate which few we want for the main page Photos section
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[tantek] Go ahead and stick a {{main|2019/Austin/Photos}} in /2019/Austin#Photos so it's discoverable
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[eddie] I couldn’t read the 4th session titles/hashtags and I couldn’t read the hashtag for “Micro Moments” in session 3. All other sessions are linked in the session grid on the wiki now
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[cleverdevil] Ahhhhhh soo much FOMO!
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[cleverdevil] I’ll try and follow along, but I’m on kiddo duty today so I likely can’t get too involved.
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[cleverdevil] Are sessions being recorded for later viewing?
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[eddie] They should be all streamed to YouTube which should then archive them
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[cleverdevil] Nice 😀
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[eddie] Same FOMO here as well. I’m only able to hop and in and out on chat throughout today
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[gRegorLove] Imgur and not aaronpk.com?! ;)
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aaronpk i know right
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aaronpk i need to finish setting up my IRC client to upload to my media endpoint
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aaronpk it has a built in thing to upload to imgur
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aaronpk also iOS needs to fix Shortcuts
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aaronpk which is the other easy way to get photos off my phone
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[Rose] It is fixed in the current beta
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aaronpk [Rose]: yay!
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aaronpk i don't install betas tho, so hopefully they release it soon
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[eddie] Typically they do an update in March so hopefully soo
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[eddie] It’s late in the year without being too close to WWDC
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[Rose] Shortcuts beta is TestFlight, only available to developers
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[cleverdevil] Where are the YouTube links?
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[Rose] Well, no-one's in the Jitsi meeting I just tried, and I thought the plan was to use that to stream to YouTube
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[eddie] I don’t think we’re streaming to YouTube yet
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[cleverdevil] Ah cool.
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aaronpk we are waiting for some people to come back from lunch still
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[Rose] Jitsi++ for supporting splitscreen on iOS
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aaronpk oo
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aaronpk it's always fun looking at the recommended videos on the indiewebcamp account
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aaronpk you can tell who was accidentally logged in and clicked on stuff
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[Rose] Yeah, and 11" iPad Pro Screen sizes too
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[Rose] Hahaha
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Loqi nice
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[Rose] That happens with those kinds of accounts 😛
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aaronpk happens to our okta developer account too :P
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sknebel you can delete the history :D
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aaronpk i do go through and clean it up now and then
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aaronpk which means any time someone searches something that's the only input youtube has so it's like *bam* here are some new recommendations
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aaronpk GWG: i need to give you a youtube streaming key or did you get that connected already?
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GWG aaronpk: I thought someone else set that up
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GWG So, you would.
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aaronpk it needs to plug in to jitsi
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GWG I thought that was done on the backend
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GWG Sorry
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aaronpk need to plug in the key in the app, one sec
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[eddie] sknebel When I log on to the Main room it says you are having connectivity issues. Let me know if you continue to have issues or if it gets resolved
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[eddie] Obviously we didn't get a chance to test the self-hosted one internationally
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[eddie] Seems like it's working okay for [Rose] though, so that's good :crossed_fingers:
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sknebel [eddie]: it clearly has issues, yes. let me try different browsers and such
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aaronpk [eddie]: do you know if it's the jitsi server that pushes the stream to youtube or is it the client that the stream key plugs in to?
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aaronpk i see this error in youtube "We are not receiving video data at a fast enough rate."
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[eddie] There is a second server that connects as a client and streams it
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[eddie] Okay I might need to push the Jibri server to a bigger instance
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aaronpk oh wait
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aaronpk now it says good
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[eddie] OKay
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[eddie] Let me know if there are other issues
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aaronpk here we go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCuPLy1FoGo
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GWG [eddie]: Good practice for IWCOL
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aaronpk whoa the IWC logo is on the stream
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[eddie] Good or bad? lol
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sknebel woah, okay, my firefox is borked :D
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aaronpk good! glad it's not the jitsi logo :)
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sknebel I closed all tabs for jitsi and it's still reporting that it's using my microphone
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[eddie] Haha! Yeah I knew I had to replace the Jitsi logo :)
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[eddie] whoa! strange
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[eddie] ohhhh uh oh. I just realized You need a streaming server for each room we want to stream
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aaronpk oh wow haha
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aaronpk that's fine we're only going to stream one room from jitsi today
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[eddie] Ohh gotcha
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sknebel [eddie]: okay, in Edge it works
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[eddie] Okay, that's good to hear, and then we can figure out multiple servers later
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[eddie] sknebel: Oh that's good to hear. Strange, but good something is working
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aaronpk good to know
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[tantek] When are first sessions again? We’re just finishing paying here at lunch
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Loqi what
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[Rose] Starting 30 mins ago
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[Rose] So the next ones start in 20 mins
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aaronpk lol tantek
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aaronpk still on west coast time?
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aaronpk open area room has been going, but there's a handful of folks waiting in the main room for the dat session
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sknebel lol, where do I allow Edge to use my microphone... apparently I locked that down totally
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gRegorLove dougbeal, bumping session 2+ by 10 minutes each
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dougbeal gRegorLove: modifiying
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sknebel (random idea for next time: flashy lights if a remote user uses the "raise hand" button :D)
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aaronpk ha
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sknebel or a hand with a servo on it
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jacky ^
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jacky that's brilliant
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dougbeal sknebel++ great idea
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sknebel what device are the streams from? chromebooks? ipad?
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GWG sknebel: Open Area is using the Chromebook I had in Berlin
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aaronpk i have an ipad i was going to use as another jitsi client. using a slingstudio in the main room
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[cleverdevil] Made it to Jitsi 💪
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[eddie] That would be so cool to have a physical indicator of the hand raising
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[cleverdevil] Hmm... which to go to next?!
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aaronpk oops we need a new template for the main room since there's no jitsi
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gRegorLove I can work on that unless someone remote already is. [eddie]?
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dougbeal Can we name the youtube livestreams?
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aaronpk dougbeal: kinda, the streaming clients sometimes take over
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aaronpk i'm trying
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dougbeal aaronpk: was just wondering if it could be incorparated into template
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[eddie] Yeah maybe add a youtube= like the Jitsi= and then after today rename the template to be more generic
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gRegorLove working on it, [eddie]
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[eddie] 👍
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gRegorLove I think that works^. If the `jitsi` param is not empty, it builds a Jitsi Meet link. If the `video` param is a URL, it will show that as a video link
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dougbeal GWG: let me see if I can shut the old ones down?
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dougbeal GWG: still listed on YouTube, though :(
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dougbeal GWG: want to dm me the key, and I can keep trying?
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[tantek] Does anyone understand how to find the home page index.html in a Rails setup? I tried spelunking into a bunch of directories and found nothing but a bunch of leaf directories with single files with ~3 lines of what looks like boilerplate? Looking for index.html in https://github.com/microformats/microformats.io
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aaronpk usually app/views/
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aaronpk i just fixed that tho :)
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[tantek] I just see two more folders there, layouts and welcome
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tbbrown should be https://github.com/microformats/microformats.io/blob/master/app/views/welcome/index.html.erb
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[tantek] how deep do you have to go down the rails rabbithole before you get to "real content"?
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aaronpk i fixed it here tho https://github.com/microformats/microformats.io/pull/40
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Loqi [aaronpk] #40 fix typo
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[tantek] also "We found potential security vulnerabilities in your dependencies."
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[tantek] [davidmead] did you add the big long paragraphs about "BlueHost, HostGator, iPage, and nearly 40 other independently owned brands" to the webhost Etherpad? Can't quite tell if that's some other light green contributor or same as your entires
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[tantek] interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endurance_International_Group
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Loqi Endurance International Group, Inc.
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[tantek] alright, so the only thing I can verify is the first sentence of that paragraph: "BlueHost, HostGator, iPage, and nearly 40 other independently owned brands have been absorbed by Endurance International Group over the past decade."
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[tantek] everything else about Goldman Sachs, Houston, Provo, etc. is not verifiable. So I'm dropping it.
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[jgmac1106] Sit down for my first remote session....and then had to run....hack day it is
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GWG Got it
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@jgmac1106 Watching @indiewebcamp Austin live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5oZLqevQ6g #edtechchat #DoOO #DigPed (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1w5yBr) (twitter.com/_/status/1099442097965420544)
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@manton2 Wrapping up the first day of IndieWebCamp, Aaron Parecki is live-coding a simple blogging engine to demo social readers. Great example of the IndieWeb building blocks and interoperability between services. https://aaronparecki.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/1099449190059524096)
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@chrisjohndeluca @ThePracticalDev Any chance http://dev.to will support web mentions? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1099450658590244864)
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[gRegorLove] Dinner plans proposed by [tantek]: Iron Cactus, Iron Cactus Mexican Restaurant and Margarita Bar
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[gRegorLove] 606 Trinity St, Austin, TX 78701
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[gRegorLove] [tantek] [manton] we have seats for you. Downstairs in the corner on the right as you enter.
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