#meta 2019-03-07

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[jgmac1106] do people do photos, when they are the only one to show up?
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martymcgui.re edited /events/2019-03-06-homebrew-website-club (+101) "/* Blog posts */ +HWCNYC" (view diff)
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gRegorLove jgmac1106, are you the facilitator for the mf2 + weebly session?
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Loqi gRegorLove: [jgmac1106] left you a message 4 days, 10 hours ago: I added an idea for a session "make a weebly microformats template" looking at the mustache partials I think it is doable...Bring a lot of churches to IndieWeb with Weebly, teachers too
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gRegorLove lol
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@lendamico ↩️ Which way are you leaning? You can do some bonkers stuff with SSGs and something like Forestry*io, as you probably know. I currently use Jekyll->Netlify but am making my biannual review of a WP-based Indieweb setup. (twitter.com/_/status/1103450689416691712)
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gRegorLove I'm interested. Are those times UTC?
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[jgmac1106] Yes, but the time conversion link wasn't fixed. I can switch it up to meet you....I have gotten a few requests from Churches and so many use Weebly
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[jgmac1106] the theme partials just Mustache and I think we can at minimum get mf2 Weebly theme done
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gRegorLove k, I'll note that in the etherpad and put ET and PT variants for reference
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ There are plenty of #IndieWeb tools for Jekyll and Netlify users. WordPress will work best on either the SemPress theme or GWGs 2016-IndieWeb fork (available on GitHub). I went with a mix of static site and a social stream in a CMS. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1Ya7qK) (twitter.com/_/status/1103451828438659072)
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chrisaldrich jgmac1106, in the planning etherpad, you should indicate your day/times using a timezone so everyone's on the same page...
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@jgmac1106 Flying Solo at Homebrew Website Club New Haven @scsu #nhv: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/03/07/flying-solo-at-homebrew-website-club-new-haven-scsu-nhv (twitter.com/_/status/1103452064326266880)
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gRegorLove wait, I'm confused now.
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[jgmac1106] I thought we put in directiosn UTC but I will check
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gRegorLove "3-4" is that 2019-03-03 03:00 UTC?
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chrisaldrich you've just got numbers, so I'm not sure what to think....
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gRegorLove gah, 2019-03-09 03:00 UTC
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[jgmac1106] I need to learn UTC better meant 13:00 est not 1:00 am est
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chrisaldrich are we recording sessions for IWC online, or just streaming them?
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[jgmac1106] hold on lemme fix my times
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[jgmac1106] recording
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chrisaldrich I suspect we'll record the intros and demos...
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gRegorLove which would be 2019-03-08 22:00 EST, 19:00 PST
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gRegorLove ok
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[jgmac1106] yes but gRegor I am amicable to time changes
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[jgmac1106] let me go fix my mistake
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gRegorLove sure, as am I. I need to check my calendar, just wanted to make sure your initial timeslots were clear :)
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gRegorLove no worries
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aaronpk Do you all have stuff to be able to plug in stream keys to save from jitsi to YouTube?
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[jgmac1106] not sure eddie has keys to IWC YouTube Channel
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gRegorLove added the datetime UTC, EST, and PST when sessions start under "Session Proposals" in the etherpad
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[jgmac1106] thx gRegorLove that helped a ton...I misunderstood a conference I helped plan
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gRegorLove bummer about timee.io not working. I'm using https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20190309T220000&p1=1440&p2=179&p3=137
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gRegorLove oh man, confusing things even more... DST on Sunday!
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gRegorLove I was wondering why it showed a 4 hour Eastern to Pacific time difference for a 0300 EST time slot, haha
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gRegorLove oh, disregard, I had the wrong day selected. DST is Sunday, but sessions don't overlap it.
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GWG gRegorLove: And not in Europe
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gRegorLove [schmarty], what are you interested in talking about at IWC Online?
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gRegorLove I'm putting down a session about read posts
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gRegorLove Added, vote away!
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[jgmac1106] Great idea!
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gRegorLove GWG, any session topics you're interested in for IWC Online?
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GWG Not sure.
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GWG I wouldn't mind read discussion
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gRegorLove Do we have a breakdown of timezones for attendees so far?
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[schmarty] gRegorLove: I have no strong thoughts yet. My time will be scattered this weekend due to late work commitments and improv classes Sat/Sun.
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chrisaldrich waits for GWG to list his brainstorming session for /discovery leading into the summit
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GWG chrisaldrich: I had one after the last summit.
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[eddie] gRegorLove I’ll put together a Timezone list breakdown this evening of the attendees so we can get a better view into that
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[eddie] !tell aaronpk we don’t have access to the IWC YouTube keys, so that’s definitely a potential issue for this weekend
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@ChrisAldrich Always wanted to IndieWeb-ify our WordPress site, but aren't sure where to start? I've proposed just such a discussion session at IndieWebCamp Online. Indicate your interest here and join us this weekend. #DoOO #edtech https://etherpad.indieweb.org/iwc-online-session-planning https://boffosocko.com/2019/03/06/55745475/ (twitter.com/_/status/1103476471186710528)
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[jgmac1106] gRegorLove we never thought about collecting time zone info. I will email in the morning
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[jgmac1106] Only hitting a 30% open rate so will send people a webmention or tweet as wekl
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gRegorLove May not matter too much at this point, juts curious
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[jgmac1106] mblaney++
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Loqi mblaney has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (4 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] Yeah but will add to planning page... Good idea for next time...
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[jgmac1106] !tell Eddie, aaronpk we could have organizers record and load after the fact or we need keys... Can they just be added to the jitsi server Eddie set up by default?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk The key gets entered in each jitsi room on the fly and that's how it gets recorded at all
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Loqi aaronpk: [eddie] left you a message 26 minutes ago: we don’t have access to the IWC YouTube keys, so that’s definitely a potential issue for this weekend
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aaronpk there's a bunch of people already added on YouTube I don't remember who
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aaronpk anyone who has access to the account can create the stream keys
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[jgmac1106] Both Eddie and I pretty fluent in YouTube. I know I don't have keys...but I know nothing of jitsi set up. We should strive for live but accept recorded and uploaded as backup
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aaronpk As far as i know there is no way to record jitsi other than stream to YouTube
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[eddie] There is a manual recording that can happen on the server
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Loqi [eddie]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 4 minutes ago: we could have organizers record and load after the fact or we need keys... Can they just be added to the jitsi server Eddie set up by default?
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[eddie] MP4
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[jgmac1106] We should also add a note that each facilitator should screen record for backup
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Loqi +1
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aaronpk [eddie]: awesome, is that easier than dealing with YouTube?
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aaronpk No need to throw another moving part into the mix
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[jgmac1106] ..... Now has vague memories of aaronpk noting how must YouTube Studio tools changed and afraid to look
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[jgmac1106] Aaronpk yes. It's one button "record session"
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[jgmac1106] I think Jitsi is our live feed and YouTube the archive...
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aaronpk If jitsi can record itself then I'd say don't bother with YouTube during the event. It's always stressful adding more moving parts
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[jgmac1106] https://jitsi.org/live-streaming-and-recording-a-jitsi-conference/
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[jgmac1106] Am I reading this correct it is a one time set up and then everything is live streamed?
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[jgmac1106] !tell Eddie going to bail on vHWC-East. Too tired. Happy to catch up tomorrow for planning
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie] !tell [aaronpk] yeah, that makes sense. It should be a lot easier to record on the server than use YouTube. We’ll do that, then we can edit the videos and upload to YouTube channel after the fact
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [eddie]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 1 hour, 20 minutes ago: going to bail on vHWC-East. Too tired. Happy to catch up tomorrow for planning
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[eddie] !tell [jgmac1106] no worries. There is some minor configuration you have to do every time you stream. The recording is pretty easy though!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk Sounds good
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aaronpk send me your Google account info when you get a chance and I can add you to the YouTube account
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@lsanger ↩️ @ChrisAldrich What’s the best video for learning about IndieWeb? (twitter.com/_/status/1103510945131769857)
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[tantek] Eddie++
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Loqi Eddie has 22 karma in this channel over the last year (86 in all channels)
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@heinz We have a presence week @ContentGraz and a #coscamp on Saturday - but we will follow what happens at #IndieWebCamp online: (twitter.com/_/status/1103542284379963392)
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@kevinmarks Facebook is now so monopolistic that Zuckerberg thinks Interoperability means consolidating the different startups he bought to prevent competition #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1103591507288879105)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I like this one https://vimeo.com/265121482 from https://adactio.com/ and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttk6ehcS3Z0&t=2s from https://aaronparecki.com/ For tutorial videos check out: https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started and here is YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=indieweb #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/25syQI) (twitter.com/_/status/1103618659392675840)
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@jgmac1106 Hey #OEWeek there is still time to sign up for @IndieWebCamp Online https://indieweb.org/2019/Online Firm believer that #OER has to begin with you, and we must first begin by owning and controlling our data. https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/rqr4i) (twitter.com/_/status/1103625364293804032)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ You should try to get as many of your team to here: https://indieweb.org/2019/Utrecht #oeweek #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1yz1R) (twitter.com/_/status/1103627549052162049)
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@jgmac1106 Added a UTC clock to the desktop to get ready for @indieWebCamp Online https://t.co/xLgxAbASxW (twitter.com/_/status/1103629441677312000)
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@jgmac1106 Already so many cool proposals coming in for @IndieWebCamp Online a free online unconference during #oeweek https://etherpad.indieweb.org/iwc-online-session-planning getting started WordPress, hacking on Weebly, Your Blog/ Your Common Place Book, tracking what you read, #IndieWeb… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/03/07/already-so-many-cool-proposals-coming-in (twitter.com/_/status/1103637001721597952)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ As a WordPress user it is important to note the #IndieWeb plugins work best on community approved themes: https://wordpress.org/themes/sempress/ https://github.com/dshanske/iw26 https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-publisher or https://github.com/pfefferle/ZenPress (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2eUZrs) (twitter.com/_/status/1103648423109189633)
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GWG Community approved or community developed?
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GWG Approved may have the wrong tone
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petermolnar community encouraged? supported?
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Zegnat Ooh, there is already a microformats session on the board for IWC Online?
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[jgmac1106] Community developed is probably better
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[jgmac1106] Though in WP land..if more people started to fork themes wouldn't mind an IndieWeb WordPress button or badge or something
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I should have probably said community developed. Community "approved" too strong since there is no formal approval process of governance for #IndieWeb or #IndieWeb WordPress . Approved is defined as "It works" (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/odwwh) (twitter.com/_/status/1103662827561250816)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ I think we do need a name per silo though, as you can't hear Luminations in Spotify or Spotifications in Luminary either. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1103687662655934465)
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[jgmac1106] kevmarks wouldn't you say podcast stuck because someone invented an iPod, or does the name super cede the device?
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[kevinmarks] the name transcended the device, yes. They were audioblogs for a bit, but playing them on the go was the key thing, so "podcast" stuck. Calling our pocket computers phones rather than pods doesn't mean we need to change the name, but not letting silos co-opt it is important
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loqi.me edited /phprc (+379) "[tantek] added "TIL: If you want to use the 'tidy' extension (like to clean-up malformed HTML before parsing it for [[microformats]] for typical IndieWeb use-cases), in your PHP code that runs on [[DreamHost]], you have to add it to your phprc which i..." (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] related https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/1103665544291647489
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@kevinmarks @hearluminary |￣￣￣￣ ￣￣| | IF THEY ONLY | | PLAY IN YOUR | | APP THEY | | AREN'T REAL | | PODCASTS | | ＿＿ ＿＿＿__| (\__/) || (•ㅅ•) || / 　 づ #Luminary (twitter.com/_/status/1103665544291647489)
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@t 10/10 site migrations completed! 8/10 functional with #HTTPS @IndieWebCamp Austin, https://tantek.com/ Monday, and https://h2vx.com/ up today ~06:21 PST thanks to @DreamHost enabling #phptidy. #microformats #hcard #hcalendar #h2vx @h2vx https://tantek.com/t4zN1 (twitter.com/_/status/1103705406180737024)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ There are a large number of videos about the IndieWeb available. I’ll make a few recommendations from the broadest and shortest to the most specific and longer given what I suspect about you and your background. This short 13 minute video [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2019/03/07/55745497/ (twitter.com/_/status/1103715311809748993)
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[schmarty] jgmac1106: Leo Laporte still calls them "netcasts".
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aaronpk Interesting to see how my priorities change over time
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aaronpk been a while since I updated that
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[tantek] big update!
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aaronpk Basically a year since my last update!
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aaronpk and I forgot to move Monocle out of itches!
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[eddie] There we go.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie] !tell [jgmac1106],GWG As aaronpk won't be able to make the Friday Intro session, I'm putting together some content for an introduction talk based on some stuff from Manton's intro at Austin and aaronpk's keynote at Austin. I'm happy to present it, but want to provide on opportunity for you all to either do the welcome or present part of it as well if you want.
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gRegorLove [eddie] can you check the schedule and links on 2019.indieweb.org/online? Sessions show starting at 2300 UTC but timee link is 0200 UTC
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gRegorLove 1945 and 2030 UTC links show different times too
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[eddie] Yeah, I fixed it on the wiki and am working on putting together a PR for that event page
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[eddie] Alright, I created a PR with the schedule fix, if someone can review and approve
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[eddie] oops, hold
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[eddie] Alright, date issue fixed. PR is ready for review/approval
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[jgmac1106] eddie can't wait for yoru keynote
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GWG I am confused about when IWC Online ends
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Loqi GWG: [eddie] left you a message 3 hours, 3 minutes ago: As aaronpk won't be able to make the Friday Intro session, I'm putting together some content for an introduction talk based on some stuff from Manton's intro at Austin and aaronpk's keynote at Austin. I'm happy to present it, but want to provide on opportunity for you all to either do the welcome or present part of it as well if you want.
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gRegorLove GWG, schedule and timee.io links should be correct now. https://timee.io/20190310T2000?d=60&tl=Projects%20Conclusion%20%2F%20Demos
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@wchadly How I dumped Disqus comments on my @gatsbyjs site in favor of @indiewebcamp WebMentions and created a source plugin along the way https://www.chadly.net/embracing-the-indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1103803489212354560)
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