#meta 2019-03-08

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@chrisbiscardi ↩️ @gatsbyjs @wchadly @indiewebcamp so cool!! How did using the plugin go? (twitter.com/_/status/1103811212872081409)
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@wchadly ↩️ @chrisbiscardi @gatsbyjs @indiewebcamp Plugin worked great! Definitely the easiest part of the whole process. (twitter.com/_/status/1103820626840698880)
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aaronpk 😂😂😂 "the inspiration for this change came from the IndieWeb, a group of hipsters with websites trying to take down THE MAN (aka the “corporate web”). I read through a bunch of their stuff and got really into it."
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aaronpk via https://www.chadly.net/embracing-the-indieweb/
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GWG I didn't know we were trying to take down the man.
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@ryanwiemer ↩️ Nice approach. I recently took the easy solution that @dan_abramov does on his blog of just linking to a search on Twitter. I then tweet it out once linking to the post so the search returns something. It’s not perfect but it works for now. https://www.ryanwiemer.com/blog/ (twitter.com/_/status/1103831781428518912)
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@darrenjennings ↩️ Realizes Twitter is "the comments" in "don't read the comments" (twitter.com/_/status/1103834157023555584)
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chrisaldrich !tell eddie, I created a template doc for our timee-link template. Assuming I followed your logic properly, I hopefully got it right.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jacky https://www.reddit.com/wiki/rss
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jacky err
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[eddie] !tell chrisaldrich Thanks! Hadn’t gotten around to that yet 😁
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Loqi [eddie]: chrisaldrich left you a message 16 minutes ago: created a template doc for our timee-link template. Assuming I followed your logic properly, I hopefully got it right.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie] And it looks great!
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[eddie] [chrisaldrich]++
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] has 12 karma in this channel over the last year (47 in all channels)
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@wchadly ↩️ I was going to do that as well until I discovered the WebMention thing. It's a little more work to setup, but I feel like it opens a whole new world of possibilities. (twitter.com/_/status/1103848745026899969)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-08.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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@mrerwtc Now to “indieweb-ify” my site: https://erwtc.com/finally-got-or2blog-working/ (twitter.com/_/status/1103876687786176512)
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jacky the title for the berlin post in the newsletter is a bit thick
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[tantek] "group of hipsters" 😂😂 wat
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[tantek] excuse me while I go get my skinny jeans
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jacky Lol skinny jeans were probably the one thing I skipped over
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jacky Now slim fit I can do
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petermolnar aaronpk, [tantek] jailbreaking the internet sounded better, than hipsters :) ( https://www.wired.com/2013/08/indie-web/ )
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jacky > On any given day, you'll find about 30 or 40 of them on an IRC chat channel, and each summer, they come together in the flesh for this two-day mini-conference, known as IndieWebCamp
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jacky oh wow
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jacky I didn't know LiveJournal pioneered OpenID
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@pfefferle @hackr vielleicht was für dich... https://mrkapowski.com/2019/02/launching-indieweb-textpattern.html (twitter.com/_/status/1103952771097743360)
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[kevinmarks] http://www.dieselsweeties.com/ics/754/
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[jgmac1106] I don't trust people in skinny jeans, who do you want in Zombie apocalypse? The person in the cargo pants or the skinny jeans?
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[Rose] Whichever one runs slower than me.
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[Rose] Realistically skinny jeans are better, less for the zombies to grab hold of.
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[jgmac1106] I am so going to do webmention vs zombies this Halloween. Didn't have enought time to set up the game this year
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[jgmac1106] https://wmvz.glitch.me
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[jgmac1106] https://wmvsz.glitch.me/
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aaronpk site-deaths << https://mycroft.ai/blog/closed-platform-deprecation-beware-the-google-graveyard/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://mycroft.ai/blog/closed-platform-deprecation-beware-the-google-graveyard/" to the "See Also" section of /site-deaths https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57824&oldid=57548
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Loqi By Joshua Montgomery
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@akyrho ### Hopefully this note will find its way trough my Micropub endpoint, my GitHub repository, my Netlify instance, and finally http://Brid.gy before ending up on Twitter #indieweb (https://cedric.io/social/2019/03/08/58674.html) (twitter.com/_/status/1104059480097009664)
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[jgmac1106] Is in inbox a site death? Trying to decide if I should use the chance to jump ship....I liked Inbox. I don't like gmail
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aaronpk app death i guess? the data is all still there
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[jgmac1106] yeah, doesn't fit
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[jgmac1106] !tell eddie any late registration I get just emailing directly from my account rather than ti.to
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] will document the copy somewhere later
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[jgmac1106] wait there is probably a trigger in ti.to
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aaronpk you can send emails to specific people from tito
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[jgmac1106] ahh take me longer to figure out then just email the newcomers myself, will go back to documenting for history after
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[jgmac1106] yeah trying to find email upon registration
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[jgmac1106] custom message on the ticket
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[jgmac1106] found it
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[eddie] [jgmac1106] :thumbsup:
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Loqi [eddie]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 14 minutes ago: any late registration I get just emailing directly from my account rather than ti.to
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[eddie] [jgmac1106] I’m available from now until start for anything. I’m eating some lunch right now and checking the Jitsi server.
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jgmac1106 sweet sitting here doing the same
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jgmac1106 you pocast enough that the intro talk will be fine but if practicing makes you more comfortable I’ll be your Hucklberry
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[eddie] Thanks, I appreciate that. I did a run through before I grabbed lunch, so I feel good for now. I have some public speaking in my background, so this one will be pretty easy and short. I used to do some 45 minute stuff in the past multiple times a day so 🤷‍♂️ 20 minutes one time is nothing.
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jgmac1106 explains why you are a good podcaster
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[eddie] aww, thanks!
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[eddie] That’s the worst when you have to give the same talk several times in a row! You finish and you’re ready to wind down, but then you have to get up and do it all over again 😭
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@jgmac1106 Just hours away from kickoff off of @IndieWebCamp Online....look at all the cool session proposals: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/iwc-online-session-planning #OEWeek still time to register (and everything streamed in public domain online so lurking always welcome) https://indieweb.org/2019/Online (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/pKGJx) (twitter.com/_/status/1104076205404368898)
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[jgmac1106] you just described the life of every single teacher, every day
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[eddie] Haha that’s true!! I didn’t think about that
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aaronpk and literally my job
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[eddie] lol I feel for you guys
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[eddie] I think max I would want to do that would be once a week
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GWG I have to teach the same class every six weeks
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GWG So the same speeches, over and over
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GWG On that note, back to work for a few more hours
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[eddie] For some reason the Jibri server that worked perfectly fine for recording Jitsi two weeks ago, today doesn’t want to work. I’ve been fighting with it for the last hour
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[eddie] 🤦
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[eddie] How does something that hasn’t been touched stop working??
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[schmarty] bit rot
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aaronpk solar flares
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chrisaldrich What is Murphy's Law?
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Loqi chrisaldrich: [eddie] left you a message 16 hours, 19 minutes ago: Thanks! Hadn’t gotten around to that yet 😁
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[eddie] lol
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sknebel Forgot the goat sacrifice
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[eddie] I guess no Jibri is better than no Jitsi lol
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sknebel Gotta try and keep good notes then. Demos can be recorded through YT?
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sknebel Or someone screen capturing worst case
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[eddie] Unfortionately YouTube and local recording use the same server, so no YT or recording but yeah I’ll screen capture intros and demos from my side
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sknebel Ok
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sknebel Maybe people doing tutorial-like sessions that might be useful later can do that too
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[Rose] I will have to catch up on what already happened later. Podcast recording overran!
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chrisaldrich What are our potential backups? Google Hangouts?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "our potential backups" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "our potential backups is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[eddie] [chrisaldrich] I haven’t gotten set up with access to the YouTube channel yet, so Google Hangouts and Jitsi are pretty much going to be the same experience either way
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[eddie] someone screen capturing
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[Rose] I have screenflow. So I can record stuff my end maybe.
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aaronpk i can add you to the youtube real quick
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[eddie] eddie@eddiehinkle.com is my youtube account
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[eddie] [chrisaldrich] [jgmac1106] So switch to Google Hangouts for the Main Session so we can stream/record on YouTube?
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aaronpk ok invited
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[eddie] got it :thumbsup: Thanks
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jgmac1106 okay
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[tantek] [schmarty] and jacky, re that WIRED article, check out the corrections: https://indieweb.org/Wired_-_Meet_the_Hackers_Who_Want_to_Jailbreak_the_Internet
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jgmac1106 is the correct link to the intros being shared here or on the wiki page?
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[eddie] I’m getting the link set up right now
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jgmac1106 I can email participants as well if things are changing
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[eddie] I am in the Jitsi room just to make sure i can redirect anyone that shows up there
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[eddie] Okay here’s the Google Hangouts Link: http://youtu.be/tHlYZlh-6Gc
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[eddie] Updating the Wiki Page now
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@jgmac1106 Minor technical delays with launch of #IndieWeb Online. We were trying to use our Jitsi server through YouTube live and after much testing technology gonna technology. Using Hangouts as our fallback for the overview and https://eddiehinkle keynote … https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/03/08/minor-technical-delays-with-launch-of-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1104097080061108225)
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[eddie] oh wait that’s not the hangouts link
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[eddie] 🤔 That’s a youtube link
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jgmac1106 no that is the lurk link not join link
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[tantek] Can someone please IndieNews this? It's too good not to have in the newsletter: https://www.chadly.net/embracing-the-indieweb/
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[eddie] how do you get the hangouts link
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jgmac1106 only share the join link here
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jgmac1106 ‘We can send out a message saying check chat for join link
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[tantek] alright, leaving this channel for the online debugging
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jgmac1106 cut down on randos
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[eddie] https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/oaVyro061oq-bze3SY3frJD17NMDBxIe_GUXE68pW4I=?eid=117428517899860701753&hl=en_US
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[eddie] Can you access that tantek?
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jgmac1106 I will email the link to all participants now
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[tantek] I mean leaving this channel for the rest of you to do online debugging 🙂
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[tantek] Switching to #indieweb for Newsletter things
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jgmac1106 wow awesome turnout!!
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[schmarty] whee! sorry i can't make the launch! have fun everyone!!!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ And we are live! https://eddiehinkle kicking us off with the keynote!! Reviewing #IndieWeb Code of Conduct now (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1ZRO0Q) (twitter.com/_/status/1104100021740408833)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ https://eddihinkle highlights five principles that drive #IndieWeb 1 Own your data, you get to decide what to share and when, 2 design is more important than protocols, start with your message, 3 agnostic platforms, 4 plurality rocks, 5 have fun !! (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/jeENr) (twitter.com/_/status/1104100789826535424)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Eddie reminded us why people use social media and talks about why people use social media and shows the data disappear. Join us for #IndieWeb online https://indieweb.org/2019/Online #OEWeek http://youtu.be/tHlYZlh-6Gc (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/MKKdq) (twitter.com/_/status/1104101472889901058)
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[Rose] Current status: no idea what's happening.
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jgmac1106 rose, just a one way keynote
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[Rose] I have to get some work done sadly.
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jgmac1106 when eddie is done talking we will go one by one doing intros
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jgmac1106 will miss you, pop in and say hello when you get a chance
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jgmac1106 you want to intro first?
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jgmac1106 want to just bang out the intros
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jgmac1106 +1 in the Google Hangout if you want to intro
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@jgmac1106 https://eddiehinkle.com demos a new layout with a map header and styled posts as he tracks is quantified life. https://grant.codes demos a new photo gallery page. https://boffosocko.com shows his following and followers page #IndieWeb #OEWeek (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/16EuCf) (twitter.com/_/status/1104105974497988609)
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chrisaldrich I'm Chris Aldrich and my website is https://boffosocko.com. My most recent addition to my site is a Followers page https://boffosocko.com/about/followers/ to complement my Following page https://boffosocko.com/about/following/.
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chrisaldrich Presenting now: Juan of JuanPinto.me
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ https://dougbeal.com goes next and shows off his Wordpress site. Gives a shoutout to https://david.shanske.ke #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2d7y2K) (twitter.com/_/status/1104106554293477376)
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chrisaldrich Now presenting: Michael McCallister of http://michaelmccallister.com/
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chrisaldrich He's using WordPress with the SemPress theme
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chrisaldrich We're moving into proposing sessions for camp later today/tomorrow. Proposals should be placed here: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/iwc-online-session-planning
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[Rose] Link to the hangout again?
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[Rose] I had to switch devices
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dougbeal Rose: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/oaVyro061oq-bze3SY3frJD17NMDBxIe_GUXE68pW4I=?eid=117428517899860701753&hl=en_US
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Loqi dougbeal: [jgmac1106] left you a message 1 week ago: well folks have a lot to get done...we will check out
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sknebel tunes into stream
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sknebel ah, scheduling. good, I missed the interesting bits :D
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sknebel (not surprised, was travelling)
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jgmac1106 eddie crushed the keynote
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jgmac1106 rose we can’t make it out
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jgmac1106 sknebel want to lend your expertise as people talk podcast pages and microformats?
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chrisaldrich I'm heading out for a meeting, should be back around 2:45pm pacific to see folks in sessions thereafter.
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jgmac1106 eddie your audio is shot
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jgmac1106 you maybe frozen
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jgmac1106 not sure
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[Rose] We're hearing a loop, with a robot voice
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[eddie] It is?
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[eddie] how strange!
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[Rose] Also: Drafts for Mac!!!
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[eddie] haha yep!
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jgmac1106 drafts for mac will be a cool session do you want to suggest times Rose?
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[eddie] oh she was commenting that I was using Drafts to make the final session times
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jgmac1106 eddie you edited locallly, can’t help ypu throw iit up on wiki. Do you need help?
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[Rose] Yeah there's no way we can do a session on an app that hasn't been released yet
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jgmac1106 ahh now I understand
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[eddie] [jgmac1106] (and anyone who wants to help finalize schedules) we can hop on here: https://meet.indieweb.org/organizing
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[eddie] There are more that will be posted on the wiki soon but for now, the first chunk of sessions is posted and it covers the next 4 hours
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dougbeal eddie: When did WP events end up?
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jgmac1106 eddie your sound is crazy
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[eddie] Still crazy sound?
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@khurtwilliams @ChrisAldrich figuring out how to attend an IndieWebCamp online session is about as frustrating as using the tools themselves. Can you help me out? Where can I find a video feed? (twitter.com/_/status/1104124423433605120)
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[eddie] [jgmac1106] You coming to the Microformats for Podcasts?
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jgmac1106 yes
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jgmac1106 coming right now, one sec slight emotional meltdown
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jgmac1106 joining now
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[eddie] no worries
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[eddie] don’t stress 🙂
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sknebel jgmac1106: was making dinner. no, not right now, sorry
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jgmac1106 enjoy
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jgmac1106 feel free to run sessions anytime EU time tomorrow
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-08.html
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@kongaloosh ↩️ Dr. @rhiaro is the coolest of cool. Digital nomad, web-standards-maker, all-around interesting human. They got me into the #indieweb, encouraged me to do try taking on more projects, and got me involved in the local tech community. (twitter.com/_/status/1104133519905701889)
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dougbeal No one at Profile Pages?
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[eddie] just about to log on from my side 🙂
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dougbeal going to make tea, then
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[eddie] Sounds good
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gRegorLove Oof, today has been hectic sorry I haven't been able to drop into IWC Online yet.
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[eddie] No worries, gRegorLove!
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gRegorLove Looks like /read posts is in an hour, I should be able to make that. If another time works better, let me know
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[eddie] I think that works as long as it works for you 🙂
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GWG I'll be on after I eat
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workingwriter Whenever I click the Hangout link for Profile Pages, I'm told I can't start the call!
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GWG I may miss some stuff. Didn't realize how much would be tonight vs tomorrow
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[eddie] oh that’s strange
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dougbeal We are restarting, since it wouldn't go On Air
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dougbeal (the Hangouts)
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[eddie] Here it is: https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/UN68RG4ZaLyf6CjGgx0uUDTYBZrPquOfouvbjF4fNdM=?eid=117428517899860701753&hl=en_US
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-08.html
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[grantcodes] eddie++ for organizing, but it's late here, so I'll be back for the Saturday afternoon UTC stuff
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Loqi eddie has 23 karma in this channel over the last year (88 in all channels)
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[eddie] Understandable! Thanks for joining!
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[eddie] gRegorLove You around? 🙂
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gRegorLove Yep. Says I'm the only one in the call.
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[eddie] oh weird
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[eddie] I see doug and I in a call
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[eddie] At this link? https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/yjCpzQjITBxvXF8HqJySfCrxJocCW9uH0t07NrBOqaU=?eid=117428517899860701753&hl=en_US
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swentel I'm joining in a minute, but can't talk, everyone is sleeping here, will just listen in and type ;)
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[eddie] Sounds good swentel :thumbsup:
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gRegorLove [eddie], I used the "here it is" one above. I'll switch over
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[eddie] ohhhh
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[eddie] yeah each session is a different link
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-03-08.html https://t.co/ZwxzPVKf2E (twitter.com/_/status/1104158618578907136)
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swentel mm connection is not optimal to listen in even either :/
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swentel oh well, not worries :)
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GWG Sorry, I am finishing dinner. I'll be on for the WordPress ones
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dougbeal GWG: Wanted to have a session on Events in Wordpress, get beyond manual html, interested? 00:00 utc ish (19:00 EST). @rose was interested