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[tantek] [gRegorLove] yes ideally we’d make the bot(s) smarter but until then when you add < < see alsos any existing end of page category: links get even more lost in the middle of a bunch of new list items. Wouldn’t it be easier to know you could always find them as a chink right in front of the == See Also == heeding?
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[chrisaldrich] For the categories in the wiki there are many pages where they're at the top which makes them easy to see and doesn't cause conflict with Loqi and the see also functionality. I'm happy with whatever others want though.
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@t Event: IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf At: 2019-05-11 10:00 @sipgate RSVP: https://tantek.com/e/50T1 (twitter.com/_/status/1124493503889723392)
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gRegorLove_ Good point, [tantek]. I'm ok with right before ==see also==
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GWG On the move
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[Rose] Me too!
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[Rose] We're standing in the stairwell, but can't get into Moz.
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@sl007 ↩️ Thank you! A very nice in-depth article, regarding "need to come together" please share the word: • https://indiewebcamp.nl in 2 weeks and to bring the communities together: • https://web3summit.com & https://www.weboftrust.info/next-event-page.html We plan an AP workshop with @dustyweb there ! (twitter.com/_/status/1124579767230005248)
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gRegorLove Hello, Berlin
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[Rose] There is signage outside, please let us know if you get lost!
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sebsel what is photo policy?
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Loqi A photography policy or recording policy is an event policy to make it clear when photographing/recording is acceptable, and how attendees can communicate their preferences; IndieWebCamps are often livestreamed, and have photographers or organizers who take both informal session photos and group photos that are often published publicly https://indieweb.org/photo_policy
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sebsel [tantek], [frank] is that where the photo policy is documented you were talking about?
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sebsel I'll expand with some things about the borders on nametags
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[frank] [sebsel] Yes that's the one
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[tantek] Should we announce live streaming before we start it?
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sebsel [tantek] I personally have no problems with it, but it feels like a good thing to do
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[frank] I'd say announce it and give ppl the opportunity to stay out of the stream if they want. For some it might also be a help to promote the livestream URL on their own media and networks.
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[frank] BTW, I'm interested in the livestream setup, to see what we can do in Utrecht
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[frank] Can be discussed at a later stage. Not this weekend.
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sebsel what is live streaming?
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Loqi live streaming is the practice of streaming media (mostly audio or video) live as the captured event is happening https://indieweb.org/live_streaming
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sebsel [frank] there are some resources linked, including a writeup by aaronpk, what he used last year in Berlin
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sebsel also, Mozilla Berlin just has a lot of gear for it already, I believe
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@RosemaryOrchard ↩️ @jkphl @t @martijnvdven @HeNeArXn @calum_ryan @ioctaptceb @indiewebcamp See you next weekend! (twitter.com/_/status/1124584135023112192)
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[frank] sebsel ++
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@helpfuldigital Excited to be at IndieWebCamp Berlin this weekend. We're thrilled to be supporting the event - say hello to our @calum_ryan if you see him! https://indieweb.org/2019/Berlin #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1124591272625184769)
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@calum_ryan IndieWebCamp Berlin livestream https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=uRIeFq6SA8 (twitter.com/_/status/1124597555428507648)
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@ioctaptceb So, last year I made a comic, and that comic has been expanded into a presentation. Here are the slides! (http://hag.codes/social/2019/05/03/indieweb-presentation.html) (twitter.com/_/status/1124604439996850177)
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[Yulia] hey folks, some bad news
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[Yulia] the camera stopped recording at some point, so we may have lost a couple of introductions
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[Yulia] its running again now
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[tantek] good thing we have notes in #indieweb !
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@frankmeeuwsen Terwijl Indiewebcamp Berlijn opstart schrijf ik hoe jíj (ja jij!) mee kunt doen aan Indiewebcamp Utrecht over twee weken! https://diggingthedigital.com/indiewebcamp-utrecht/ (twitter.com/_/status/1124606217823952896)
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[frank] As far as I noticed, I didn't miss any introductions/
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sebsel frank++
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@calum_ryan Session planning time at IndieWebCamp Berlin (https://calumryan.com/note/2626) https://t.co/QyHLpkdLSf (twitter.com/_/status/1124620438410276865)
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rosemaryorchard.com uploaded /File:29F4BD11-E767-4B96-90E8-BDE926D1A06F.jpeg "Berlin 2019 session grid https://indieweb.org/File:29F4BD11-E767-4B96-90E8-BDE926D1A06F.jpeg"
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[Rose] Could someone transcribe the session grid please?
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jeremycherfas So streaming is available only after I download the Vidyo app?
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[Rose] Yes.
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jeremycherfas Another day, another streaming app.
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sebsel [Rose] on it!
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jeremycherfas I'm guessing that nothing is actually happening ATM
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sebsel No the livestream ended a few minutes ago
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jeremycherfas Cool.
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jeremycherfas Restart at 13:15, right?
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[tantek] We forgot to take the photo!
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[tantek] Please everyone come back at 13:15 so we can take the group photo before sessions start
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@EatPodcast ↩️ @jkphl Likewise, and although I won't be in Düsseldorf next weekend I will be in Utrecht the weekend after. May is @indiewebcamp month. (twitter.com/_/status/1124626803115610114)
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sebsel oh, nice to see you in Utrecht jeremycherfas!
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jeremycherfas It will be!
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[frank] That’s great Jeremy! Will you bring your bread as well? ;-)
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jeremycherfas I could ...
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[tantek] <!here> start walking back for IndieWebCamp Berlin photo and sessions!
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[frank] On a sidenote Jeremy, do you know the novel Sourdough by Robin Sloan? You might enjoy it. See my review on Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2801734163
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Loqi [Frank] You can read my complete (Dutch) review on my blog. To me, the book is not only about baking bread, but about culture. How culture can be interpreted differently, how technology and culture dance around each other like DNA strands and influence each ...
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jeremycherfas I know of the book, and indeed have it on my Would like to read list on Goodreads, but have not actually read it.
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@calum_ryan Walk-through using IndieWeb plugins for WordPress with @dshanske in session: 1 Click IndieWeb Setup for Wordpress (pre-Gutenberg) (https://calumryan.com/note/2628) (twitter.com/_/status/1124644650877321216)
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[jgmac1106] no video feeds for individual sessions?
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GWG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plbfy6_jvC4 - POSSE room
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] just started streaming POSSE session
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[tantek] GWG++
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@jgmac1106 #watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plbfy6_jvC4 POSSE/PESOS session as we talk messaging platforms. #IndieWeb. I use Telegram a ton with Mozilla India folks (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/t8bW2) (twitter.com/_/status/1124654687922413569)
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@jgmac1106 Can there be a microsub chat app? #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/S9UNp) (twitter.com/_/status/1124654836488790017)
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[jgmac1106] What is story?
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Loqi A story is a singular (one per profile) time stream collection post, that consists of ephemeral photo and video posts that are shown in sequence one at a time and disappear from the collection 24 hours after being added https://indieweb.org/story
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swentel chat app, been thinking about that now that indigenous can work with pushy.me :)
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[jgmac1106] and [cleverdevil] has a story feature as well
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[jgmac1106] be neat swentel
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[jgmac1106] think our definition of story too conected to snap and instagram I love non linear story telling
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[Yulia] dinner venues for sunday have been added to the schedule
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[Rose] Forgot to uncheck the minor edit box: Added a brainstorming area and "How to POSSE" to the Whatsapp page: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=WhatsApp&type=revision&diff=60591&oldid=59920
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[tantek] we need to get the times updated on https://indieweb.org/2019/Berlin/Schedule#Lunch_discussions
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[tantek] I mean https://indieweb.org/2019/Berlin/Schedule#Saturday
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GWG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZdW2T1hqwQ - All About Pictures
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GWG http://youtu.be/RRAaJMmeAds - Bookmarks
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jeremycherfas Interesting. When Vidyo is running, the overall audio volume in, e.g. Firefox is lower.
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GWG Forgot to up it before the new broadcast
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jeremycherfas Well, it jumped when I closed the vidyo. Coincidence, then.
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jeremycherfas Stand by for details of hieroglyphics https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/rip-the-curators-code
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GWG Stand by for Youtube link for Vouch
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GWG https://youtu.be/4zniLglQOI0
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GWG Ooops
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GWG One second
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jeremycherfas Is there steaming in any of the other sessions?
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GWG https://petermolnar.net/making-things-private/
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GWG Ooops
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Loqi [Peter Molnar] Content, bloat, privacy, archives
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GWG http://youtu.be/4zniLgIQOI0
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GWG That is the Vouch link
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jeremycherfas Thanks. I was wondering about Capitalism.
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jeremycherfas The session, not the concept.
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@tchambers "Why I’m supporting the IndieWeb (and you should too)": https://timothychambers.net/2019/05/04/why-im-supporting.html (twitter.com/_/status/1124694052794970112)
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[Rose] jackjamieson++ for taking out notes for us in the vouch session!
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[Rose] *our
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[tantek] I’m thinking of Sadhu for dinner
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@DomainsConf ↩️ All #Domains19 presentations are all centered around 6 different topics; IndieWeb, Learning Tools, Accessibility, Containers and The Cloud, Rivacy & Surveillance, and Data Ownership. Want to learn more about each? Check them out here: http://bit.ly/domains19 (twitter.com/_/status/1124724304296521729)
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@calum_ryan Excellent first day sessions at IndieWebCamp Berlin with some extra attendees including the awesome @sonniesedge! (https://calumryan.com/note/2631) (twitter.com/_/status/1124725292151574530)
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@looksquirrels Looking into http://indieweb.org, to see what's possible nowadays as far as distributed social media. Still not turnkey, but there's some progress on making personal sites machine-parseable and allowing cross-site interaction... http://www.thescrapyard.org/posts/20190430_indieweb_microformats.html (twitter.com/_/status/1124735848556089346)
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[calumryan] Post-dinner music at nhow now
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@ChrisAldrich I'm starting an open, distributed online book club to read Mike @Monteiro's new book Ruined by Design. I hope you'll join us. #IndieWeb #DoOO #edtech #IWBCMM #UX #UI @NELAUX https://boffosocko.com/2019/05/04/indieweb-book-club-ruined-by-design/ (twitter.com/_/status/1124753734922190848)
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gRegorLove_ Working on dumping the intro notes, unless anyone else is already in progress
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[Rose] Welcome to chat markomat++ !
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@danielpietzsch IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf – Next weekend, just before the Beyond Tellerrand conference, I’m going to attend another #IndieWebCamp. The last and only time I’ve been to one was four years ago. And I’m very much looking forward again to two days of… #IndieWeb https://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/184650717053/indiewebcamp-düsseldorf (twitter.com/_/status/1124781470852239361)
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@jackjamieson IndieWeb Book Club: Ruined By Design (https://jackjamieson.net/?p=5336) (twitter.com/_/status/1124781790667976706)
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gRegorLove Was a different etherpad used for one page site? https://etherpad.indieweb.org/ops Didn't see another one in chat
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[Rose] Gregor that was Zegnat's session.
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[Rose] !tell Zegnat Gregor didn't find any content in the etherpad for the one page site. Were any notes taken?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] WTH was “ops”? What session was that?!?
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GWG [tantek]: One Page Site
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gRegorLove etherpads are dumped, linked the few videos I found