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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ Only thing missing? Go grab yourself a copy of Aprature or something like that, then you can follow the entire #Indieweb in a single place from a single client. Not to mention, works with straightup RSS, too. (twitter.com/_/status/1126278567065731074)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ @idiot_girl @edenthecat we have Homebrew Website Club and http://indieweb.org/chat as support groups for these impulses. (twitter.com/_/status/1126298785016053765)
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@OnlineInstruct1 Bridging the Indieweb and the Fediverse with Bridgy Fed Learning http://dld.bz/h3g8t (twitter.com/_/status/1126308272829546497)
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aaronpk I'm packing for Düsseldorf tonight!
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Loqi aaronpk: [Rose] left you a message 18 hours, 11 minutes ago: please can you check with Frank on his questions regarding photography?
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aaronpk Where are the questions?
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aaronpk This? https://indieweb.org/2019/Utrecht/Planning#Check_with_others
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Zegnat aaronpk there was a question about having a professional photographer at the event. Which is of course fine, so I linked to the tollwerk albums by Julie as prior art.
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Zegnat !tell sebsel didn't you have a couple of Eurovision viewing invites? Anything around Utrecht? Looks like our venue is a no.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk Zegnat: oh cool! That'd be great
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@voxpelli Though: Remember that this is the Googlebot and we shouldn’t assume that competing crawlers are able to reach the same advanced level. Crawlers are an important part of the web and should remain easy to build. A reason why the web should stay “curlable”: https://indieweb.org/curlable (twitter.com/_/status/1126374728812441600)
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@Jer00n It’s time to make sure the web is a tool in our service by taking more of the web into our own hands. The IndieWebCamp Utrecht on May 18th & 19th is where designers, coders, thinkers and doers meet for 2 days of discussing and building the independent web. @Jer00n" target="_blank">https://indiewebcamp.nl/?utm_campaign=@Jer00n (twitter.com/_/status/1126396746274308096)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi sebsel: Zegnat left you a message 5 hours, 5 minutes ago: didn't you have a couple of Eurovision viewing invites? Anything around Utrecht? Looks like our venue is a no.
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sebsel !tell Zegnat No, nothing around Utrecht, and all just private. I can bring one or two people, but not all of IWC ;)
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Zegnat drat
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Loqi Zegnat: sebsel left you a message 12 minutes ago: No, nothing around Utrecht, and all just private. I can bring one or two people, but not all of IWC ;)
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tantek.com edited /2019/Brighton (+4964) "expand with sections similar to [[2019/Berlin]]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2019/Brighton (+1169) "start travel and lodging" (view diff)
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[tantek] [frank] IWC Brighton travel documented: https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton#Travel_and_Lodging - LMK if you have any questions or need more info
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[tantek] <!here> IndieWebCamp Brighton on Oct 19-20 is a go and its main wiki page is up! https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton
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[tantek] ticketing is forthcoming, until then, please add yourself to https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton#Interested
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[jgmac1106] [tantek] let me know if you need help with cloning a tix in Tito
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[tantek] Thanks [jgmac1106]. Jeremy (who's done Tito before, e.g. prev IWC Brighton) is handling the Brighton Tito (he's also good at writing "Looking Forward..." emails 🙂 )
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[tantek] I will need help with cloning 2019.indieweb.org/brighton howevver
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[tantek] cloning *to* that
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[jgmac1106] sweet, getting a bunch of examples of those for organizers
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[jgmac1106] just tell him the cloning of tix is done under the customize screen of an existing event not by clicking "new event" that is the only real source of confusion
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[tantek] ok
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[tantek] [Rose] hello! If you're interested again: https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton#Volunteers 🙂
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[jgmac1106] Brighton and MozFest 10 year anniversary should be a good week
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[Rose] Hello! I'm not sure about that one yet, I need to check with my boss about leaving work early on the Friday and coming in late on the Monday, but I'm definitely interested.
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[jgmac1106] [Rose] you need to tell your boss you need M-F too for MozFest
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[Rose] It doesn't work like that here unfortunately
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[jgmac1106] nor here either....but a dream...we do a big annual Halloween party that is what gets in my way....but dates work better this year so I am going to try both
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@kukharenko Bridging the Indieweb and the Fediverse with Bridgy Fed, part 1 – doubleloop https://doubleloop.net/2019/05/01/bridging-the-indieweb-and-the-fediverse-with-bridgy-fed-part-1/ (twitter.com/_/status/1126423239377530881)
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[tantek] I'd like to officially announce the save the dates for IWC Brighton today if possible
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[tantek] could folks review https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton ?
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[tantek] Thanks!
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[calumryan] Confirm with adactio venue on accessibility - think there's a step up from street level
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[calumryan] Brighton hotels/restaurants - could add some additional examples from here https://2018.ffconf.org/#locations
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[Rose] I added the hostel I reserved (YHA, it was cheap for a single ensuite room)
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GWG Still disappointed. If it were one week later
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[Rose] 90% chance of rain when I land in DUS tomorrow, so my umbrella is coming it seems!
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[tonz] [frank] Also ask him if he’s ok with publishing the photos under an open CC license (e.g. CC-BY), so they can be re-used by others e.g. in the Indieweb community
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[tantek] tonz++
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Loqi tonz has 3 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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[tantek] [Rose]++ thank you! With so many hotels I'm sorting by experience/booked first
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Loqi [Rose] has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (33 in all channels)
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Zegnat [tonz]: I think [frank] said the photographer had done that before. But good to double check!
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[Rose] Am I right in thinking that this year has the most planned/happened IWCs of any year so far?
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[Rose] No, I can't count. But we're at 9 so far
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[tantek] Rose, GWG was asking the same thing last week I think
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GWG I was?
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Zegnat I am going to communicate our wanted schedule to the Åmål venue today, me thinks. I feel pretty awake today so I will actually want to do something after work…
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GWG I don't recall
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[tantek] [Rose], we had 10 in 2016. We need perhaps NYC (GWG? [schmarty]? https://indieweb.org/Planning#NYC) to tie that for 2019, and one more (SF? Berlin2? Amsterdam?) to set a new record for the year.
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GWG I should set up a chat with schmarty
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GWG To plan
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[tantek] if you're willing to commit to co-organizing, you should update https://indieweb.org/Planning#NYC accordingly
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Loqi definitely
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[Rose] Åmål is not on the list, and ought to be.
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GWG I am still behind on stuff
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[Rose] So that + NYC would put us at 11
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GWG Rose, come to NYC
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GWG See.. organizing already
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[Rose] Is there a record for how many IWCs have been attended in a year?
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GWG If so, aaronpk and tantek have it
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GWG I would say we should see the record for non founders
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[Rose] I would expect them to have it! But I'm planning on 4 in person this year, plus I made it to some of the online one!
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GWG I was at Austin, Berlin, New Haven, Online, and will be at Summit
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GWG I need a page to track my attendance
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GWG I need low hanging fruit
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GWG Another US one
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GWG Still disappointed about Brighton
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[Rose] Like, NYC?
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GWG I will also keep trying to push LA with chrisaldrich
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[Rose] There's direct flights for me, and if I know about it in advance I can try and get work to give it to me as work time 😉
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[Rose] Plus I haven't been to NY in years, unless you count a stopover at Newark back in January
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GWG As I explained to someone in my home office...that is New Jersey
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[Rose] It's still closer than I've been in a long time 😛
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GWG https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mayor-laguardia-crown-jewel-airport-bears-article-1.787753
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[Rose] RE the above: Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries.
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GWG Re the link, LaGuardia reference
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[tantek] [Rose] Åmål is not separate - it is part of Summit
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[Rose] Even if we have our own sessions?
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[tantek] yes. see: /2014 for example
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Zegnat We are doing our own sessions, and will try to get the local community in. Basically we will be running our own event with optional remote viewing for crazy people who do not need sleep.
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[tantek] and if you want to help with adding Åmål specific stuff similarly to /2019 that would be great!
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[tantek] right, we'll move the start time of Summit to the Åmål start time accordingly
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[tantek] since you'll start before Portland 🙂
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[tantek] BTW since a bunch of indieweb folks will be going to Patterns Day in Brighton the day before the Summit, there's likely an opportunity there to ask Jeremy about Brighton remote participation in the Summit as well
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@ssstofff Is #indieweb movement somehow involved/present at #ccsummit? (twitter.com/_/status/1126469582221398016)
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[tantek] what is ccsummit
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ccsummit" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ccsummit is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat Creative Commons Global Summit
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Zegnat https://twitter.com/ccglobalsummit
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@ton_zylstra ↩️ @ssstofff @jgmac1106 put in a proposal to present w me at #ccsummit about #indieweb but didn’t get accepted. Other than that I don’t know. (twitter.com/_/status/1126470196900839424)
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[tantek] had no idea it was even happening. too many cool things happening 😂
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[tantek] [kevinmarks] you interested and/or coming to Brighton? Add yourself? https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton#Interested
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @ssstoff try to find @sadike25 and @masssly they are at ##ccsummit and run the @goifoundation Homebrew Website Club in Accra, Ghana. Creating an #OER network using #IndieWeb building blocks that is rolling out across country (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1PjXF8) (twitter.com/_/status/1126471410635898881)
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[tantek] and co-organizer adactio has approved https://indieweb.org/2019/Brighton for sharing publicly / broadly
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I'd love to meet up with you at an #IndieWeb event this summer. We have a bunch planned all over the place. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1SWTSH) (twitter.com/_/status/1126496975262818306)
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@mtobis ↩️ The most promising effort in this direction that I know of is #indieweb https://indieweb.org/ Would be interested to know of others. (twitter.com/_/status/1126497396693839874)
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[tantek] this was the tweet that [jgmac1106] replied to using his Known install that was not archived at the time: https://twitter.com/ThatMightBePaul/status/1117654798944407553
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@ThatMightBePaul @exkuchme Apparently there's a p. cool movement dedicated to this idea https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1117654798944407553)
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[tantek] Whoa - mere hours ago the top of that thread was "unavailable" http://web.archive.org/web/20190509132841/https:/twitter.com/ThatMightBePaul/status/1117654798944407553 - even to the Internet Archive, then somehow came back!
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@mtobis ↩️ @alienghic The indieweb solution, one URL for one person, puts some friction in the way of trolls and sock puppets. (twitter.com/_/status/1126501558072508416)
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[tantek] what is abuse
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Loqi Report abuse (AKA report inappropriate) is a feature in many (most?) silos for notifying the silo owners that a specific user, post, or comment is abusive https://indieweb.org/abuse
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[tantek] abuse << IndieWeb higher barrier to abuse: https://twitter.com/mtobis/status/1126501558072508416
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@mtobis @alienghic The indieweb solution, one URL for one person, puts some friction in the way of trolls and sock puppets. (twitter.com/_/status/1126501558072508416)
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Loqi ok, I added "IndieWeb higher barrier to abuse: https://twitter.com/mtobis/status/1126501558072508416" to the "See Also" section of /report_abuse https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=60862&oldid=59656
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ @mtobis @alienghic Bird's eye view: https://indieweb.org/ActivityPub (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/WDiAd) (twitter.com/_/status/1126504622258962434)
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[tantek] [aaronpk] another example of Loqi adding to multiple "See also" sections: (note the Loqi style tweet capture in both) https://indieweb.org/Micro.blog#See_also
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aaronpk weird. mediawiki supposedly has an API to return sections, and that's how loqi finds an existing one
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gRegorLove Were there any more session videos for Berlin? https://indieweb.org/2019/Berlin/Schedule#Saturday
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aaronpk speaking of videos, gRegorLove are you around this weekend to help with wiki/video gardening?
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@t ↩️ My #CSS tip for tonight: Learn & try out CSS Custom Properties (AKA #CSSVariables)! Simple examples on MDN: * https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/var Used them to implement theming on my site @IndieWebCamp Berlin, felt like they made my CSS more maintainable too! https://tantek.com/t50R2 (twitter.com/_/status/1126558075329044480)
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gRegorLove Yeah, I'll be around, though not live.
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gRegorLove I tweaked https://indieweb.org/Etherpad#Etherpad_Template, can you update the default etherpad template?
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aaronpk Oh sure
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aaronpk did you see I added a field to the session template? I think I did it right
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aaronpk for the zoom link
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aaronpk I'm gonna create placeholder "webinar" sessions in zoom for each session on the grid and we will be able to quickly join the right meeting from each room's iPad that way
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gRegorLove Just did. Yeah, looks good!
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[tantek] 2019/Berlin << {{t}} notes: https://tantek.com/2019/127/t1/indiewebcamp-berlin-built-theme-switcher (thread on Twitter: https://twitter.com/t/status/1125927388833931264 )
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Loqi ok, I added "{{t}} notes: https://tantek.com/2019/127/t1/indiewebcamp-berlin-built-theme-switcher (thread on Twitter: https://twitter.com/t/status/1125927388833931264 )" to the "See Also" section of /2019/Berlin https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=60870&oldid=60748
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@adubism ↩️ Open source federated social networking please. Not just data exportability but standard open protocols and _two way_ data capability. This kind of thing https://indieweb.org/SWAT0 (twitter.com/_/status/1126583355473055745)
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@TechLifeWeb #indieweb folks: It appears OwnYourGram is broken for me. Worked up until around the end of March. I think something might have hanged on my host. I’m getting a “Mod_Security” error. What do I need to tell them to fix? (twitter.com/_/status/1126634937849917444)