#meta 2019-05-19

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sknebel https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%207-d&geo=US&q=Indieweb
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sknebel (not quite the question asked)
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boffosocko.com edited /Posts_about_the_IndieWeb (+394) "Can “Indie” Social Media Save Us? (''The New Yorker'')" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com created /User:Boffosocko.com/as_seen_in (+1241) "Marketing mock up for inclusion on the home page??" (view diff)
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chrisaldrich Perhaps above my paygrade, design abilities, etc., but thoughts on this for inclusion somewhere on the homepage? https://indieweb.org/User:Boffosocko.com/as_seen_in
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chrisaldrich We ought to attempt to leverage some of our prior good press.
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[Zegnat] What is press?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/press
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[Zegnat] What is posts about the indieweb?
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Loqi Welcome to news about the IndieWeb where recent notable articles about the IndieWeb are cited and linked to keep you up to date https://indieweb.org/Posts_about_the_IndieWeb
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[Zegnat] I thought we already had a page like what [chrisaldrich] is suggesting. Apparently not?
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[frank] I think what [chrisaldrich] suggests is to add the logo's and links of publications to the homepage. Which feels like a fine idea to me.
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diggingthedigital.com edited /User:Diggingthedigital.com (+48) "/* Itches (Runway stuff) */" (view diff)
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diggingthedigital.com edited /User:Diggingthedigital.com (+47) "/* Itches (Runway stuff) */" (view diff)
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diggingthedigital.com edited /User:Diggingthedigital.com (+212) "/* Indieweb setup (of sorts...) */" (view diff)
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www.jvt.me edited /rsvp (+244) "/* Remote Participation */" (view diff)
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paulrobertlloyd [tantek] [Rose] [jgmac1106] Thanks for engaging in my climate related discussion yesterday (I posted my question, then stepped away from computer for the day, not very clever in hindsight). Anyway, what might be the next steps? Should this discussion be summarised on the wiki somewhere (perhaps /IndieWebCamp_Organizing). I’d like to include issues around travel (and other steps that can be taken) rather than just focus on food, as steps
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paulrobertlloyd taken across the board… though recognise that it’s harder to address multiple things than one at a time.
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paulrobertlloyd Happy to return to this discussion later, once this weekend’s IWC is over, too.
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /inclusivity_statement (+320) "/* All IndieWeb Events */ added climate and note about diversity and community" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /inclusivity_statement (+1069) "/* Details */ added details around climate, food, breast feeding, and diversitry" (view diff)
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /inclusivity_statement (+211) "/* Details */ fixed strong parallelism" (view diff)
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jgmac1106 paulrobertlloyd just added your thoughts to our draft of the inclusivity statement: https://indieweb.org/inclusivity_statement let us know what you think
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david.shanske.com edited /2019/Utrecht/Schedule (+33) "/* Sunday */" (view diff)
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aaronpk We need a capture card for people to share their screen via HDMI cable into zoom
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GWG aaronpk: Recommendation on a good cheap one?
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GWG aaronpk: I reproduced your experiment at a previous IWC with a wide angle cell camera adapter, the Zoom app, and a Fire tablet.
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sknebel apparently random USB 3 HDMI-capture dongles ones aren't that bad.
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GWG Now, I need a multi-room IWC to test all this at.
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[aaronpk] [Rose] btw I downloaded and deleted a few recordings on the yellow room account because I got a notification that the account was almost full
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[aaronpk] I will upload those shortly
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GWG [aaronpk]: You gave me the red room account credentials. Does that mean I could download/upload those?
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GWG Also, where are we uploading them to?
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[aaronpk] archive.org
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[aaronpk] I am going to set up the 1Password account properly with all the info
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[Rose] I downloaded all of yesterday's files last night
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[Rose] Just didn't have anywhere to upload them
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[Rose] Red wasn't used this weekend
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GWG Oh, I'd better sign up for 1Password then
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GWG I don't use it
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GWG How do I access this account?
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GWG Are we going to transfer the older Youtube videos to Archive.org as well?
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GWG I actually wanted to go through old sessions and see what ideas we haven't explored in a while or I haven't, prior to Summit
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[aaronpk] No plan to move videos cause that's a huge project
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[aaronpk] Wait a bit and I will write up instructions on 1Password
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[aaronpk] I've used the Magewell capture card before, but it's like $300.
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[aaronpk] There's one called Mirabox for $100 that has good reviews but I've never used it
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[aaronpk] The trick is we need one with HDMI passthru so you can still feed the projector with it
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GWG aaronpk, do you need supplies for Summit? Secondary room streaming?
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[aaronpk] Depends on whether Mozilla has switched to Zoom by then
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[aaronpk] At this point I'd rather use zoom than Mozilla's Vidyo setup, so either we bring our own or use theirs if they switched
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GWG I am prepared to bring stuff
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[aaronpk] But the iPad + mic setup worked really well these last two IWCs so I think we should stick to that
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GWG Also, with us keeping Zoom...
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[aaronpk] Android tablets would work fine too
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GWG [aaronpk]: I tested that today
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GWG Got Zoom running on a cheap fire tablet
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GWG Added an external microphone and wide angle lens
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GWG It seemed to be audible without issue
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GWG Where on archive.org do we have things now?
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GWG I haven't looked
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www.jvt.me edited /inclusivity_statement (+76) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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aaronpk GWG they are linked from the Düsseldorf schedule page
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GWG Okay, what about prior events? Did we ever send stuff there prior?
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aaronpk no
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aaronpk our schedule pages are the canonical place to find the links to wherever the videos are hosted
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aaronpk you shouldn't need to think about where they are hosted, just go to the event page and click the video link and you'll find the videos
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GWG I am just thinking about linking to videos in more wiki places
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GWG By topic
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aaronpk link to the session page
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aaronpk many of the session pages already link to the videos
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aaronpk and many pages already link to session pages
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GWG Last week I went through every day IWC I attended and made a list
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GWG I was thinking of doing the same for sessions
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aaronpk sounds like an excellent list for your wiki user page!
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GWG aaronpk, I put it on my site
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aaronpk even better :)
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/indiewebcamps
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GWG With pictures
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aaronpk very cool
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wiegand.io edited /2019/Brighton (+17) "/* Interested */" (view diff)
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rosemaryorchard.com edited /User:Vanderven.se_martijn/IWC_Åmål_Schedule (+45) "/* Saturday */ Add etherpad link for the keynote" (view diff)
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[Rose] I need to do that too
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GWG [Rose]: Start now, it is harder later
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[Rose] I started on my wiki page
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GWG Imagine how hard it is for aaronpk and tantek
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GWG I started thinking about 2014 and got nostalgic/depressed
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[Rose] Finally got to test the Pivo for the Sunday photo!
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GWG Pivo?
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[Rose] The spinny whizzy thingy that can take 360º photos
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sknebel panorama turntable for a phone?
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aaronparecki.com edited /2019/Utrecht (+210) (view diff)
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[Rose] Yes.
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rosemaryorchard.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Utrecht Day 1.jpeg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:Utrecht_Day_1.jpeg"
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rosemaryorchard.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Utrecht Day 2.jpeg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:Utrecht_Day_2.jpeg"
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www.zylstra.org blog edited /2019/Utrecht (+218) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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boffosocko.com edited /directory (+16) "/* See also */ discovery" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /2019/Utrecht/buildingblocks (+5229) "Archive" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Just checking: are the times on https://indieweb.org/2019/Utrecht/Schedule correct?
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gRegorLove I include them on the archived session pages. Noticed the first one had 12:20 in the etherpad
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GWG It changed at least once
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gregorlove.com created /2019/Utrecht/fedsearch (+2359) "Archive" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Haha, well there's an interesting line "Washing machines are local - servers you need to trust the system administrator"
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gregorlove.com edited /2019/Utrecht (+306) "citation templates, mv category above see also" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2019/Utrecht/Schedule (+2) "/* Saturday */ archived sessions" (view diff)
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gRegorLove I'm curious what "Be mean" was
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boffosocko.com edited /tweetstorm (+558) "Why section with an example" (view diff)
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GWG So was I
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[tonz] Be mean was a conversation about how silos' dark patterns can be purposefully turned against them. In a broader context than just websilos or social media, also other data intensive areas (healthcare, psd2 etc)
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[tonz] Not sure how it went as I didn't take part in ot
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[Rose] Be mean morphed into a roadmap for the IndieWeb. What could next steps be, and so on.
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[Rose] I didn't take part in it unfortunately.
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GWG Did we record it?
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GWG I was in the other one
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GWG I still want to go through topics at IWCs
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[Rose] I can check momentarily. I just got on the train to the airport.
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[Rose] I apologise for the notes in the hardware session, I was struggling to summarise what was being said.
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[Rose] The analogy of a server being like a washing machine was being used and taken apart, put back together, viewed from different angles. And at one point wash cycles came up.
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GWG What was the conclusion?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "conclusion" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "conclusion is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[Rose] The conclusion was there is no solution to this problem
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /conclusion (+79) "prompted by GWG and dfn added by [Rose]" (view diff)
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gRegorLove haha
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[Rose] Oh shoo
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[Rose] *shoot
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[Rose] Either everyone needs to be a sysadmin, or you need to be able to trust sysadmins, or Facebook builds boxes and sells them to you and when you unplug your box your data disappears, or we need another solution 😛
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GWG I keep getting caught in Loqi's web
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[Rose] Accidental page creation handled
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Zegnat Wow. The hostel bar was open long enough for me to order my usual G&T, and 5 minutes after it is delivered to me I am told the bar is closing.
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Zegnat [Rose], guess this confirms the 11 o’clock closing time.
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[Rose] We should note that on the Utrecht page in the accommodation section (assuming we have one)
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Loqi +1
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