#meta 2019-05-29

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tantek.com edited /2019/Planning (+1018) "move to-do here, re-organize a bit" (view diff)
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[tantek] jacky, benwerd, [snarfed], [dariusdunlap], [sdepolo], [bdesham], [benatwork] can you try RSVPing to tomorrow night's HWC SF to see if it's working again? (and of course it would be great to see you!) https://tantek.com/2019/149/e1/homebrew-website-club-sf
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jacky [tantek]: just sent one!
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[tantek] jacky, doesn't appear to be showing up! what's your RSVP permalink?
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jacky hmm it's a lil busted (my HTML layout is wrong)
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jacky will fix in the AM; resend and let you know w/ link
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[Rose] adactio++
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petermolnar.net edited /Planning (+88) "/* Amsterdam */" (view diff)
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Zegnat Amsterdam is appealing. But I feel like I might prefer to do Brighton in October.
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petermolnar those are the 2 cities I can plan for this year, one being connected to work/family - AMS - the other reasonably close to home - Brighton
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[jgmac1106] And if you can fengale anytime for Mozfest after Brighton I love that conference
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Zegnat People have been telling me MozFest would be up my alley
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[jgmac1106] Built for you this year is 10 year anniversary it is all week.. Not sure I can do Brighton and the entire thing
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Zegnat I just remember Brighton being relatively pricy last time I was looking at going. So staying longer has a con.
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Zegnat On the other hand, I am not taking any vacation this summer and it would be cool to celebrate my bday in the UK
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Zegnat starts a crowdfunding “get Zegnat to MozFest” :P
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[jgmac1106] My hotel will be covered if I go. Welcome to have place to stay if you pick up a coffee or two
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Zegnat If I go, I will be bringing bday cake again, probably
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[jgmac1106] I get 1200 travel allowance a year. Summit eats up some but Brighton/Mozfest next fiscal year
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[jgmac1106] But Mozfest best tech conference I go (missed last few years bc Halloween) bc it isn't really a tech conference
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[jgmac1106] It is advocacy, art, science and all powered by tech
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jeremycherfas You're tempting me to stay longer in Brighton.
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jeremycherfas If I go at all.
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[jgmac1106] [Zegnat] I added all the direct links to rooms on the wiki, started the directions for searching for a room within matrix (using riot) but I can find no consistent pattern in locating rooms so deleted those instructions
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[jgmac1106] @jermeycherfas right up your alley too, very human centric and sessions for all interests and skill levels
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petermolnar I might need to pull up some numbers for Amsterdam for money on food, facilities, etc
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petermolnar which wiki page might tell things like that, if any?
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/Category:expenses
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petermolnar thank you
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petermolnar do we also have a list of tech we need with aaronpk present and without aaronpk present? :)
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aaronpk working on it :)
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/remote_participation
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petermolnar \o/
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petermolnar btw one of our IT coordinators saw pieces from the wiki and immediately told me we need to hire these people
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petermolnar I guess that's a compliment :D
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Zegnat We also have the travelling organisers kit that needs further documenting. Utrecht has been documented pretty well on that page already
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aaronpk hah that's great
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aaronpk oh yeah, Zegnat do you know the list of stuff in the organizer's kit? could you write it down somewhere?
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petermolnar so short summary on Amsterdam IWC vs booking.com as host: I've used the proper channels to reach out to pr and events, so far, silence, so I started alternative routes
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petermolnar the facilities are there, booking has a learning center in the middle of amsterdam which is empty on weekends
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petermolnar I just need to find the correct people who tick the "ok" box
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petermolnar and yes, please share that list
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petermolnar the organisers kit
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp_kit
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sebsel petermolnar++ for looking for the "ok" box ticks
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Loqi petermolnar has 2 karma in this channel over the last year (18 in all channels)
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Zegnat IndieWebCamps << [[IndieWebCamp kit]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[IndieWebCamp kit]]" to the "See Also" section of /IndieWebCamps https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=61754&oldid=61659
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Zegnat IndieWebCamp_Organizing << [[IndieWebCamp kit]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[IndieWebCamp kit]]" to the "See Also" section of /IndieWebCamp_Organizing https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=61755&oldid=61278
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[jgmac1106] oooh looking at that kit [aaronpk] should proabbly order the lanyards and badges...I was going to to Hello My URL badge and then three colors of lanyards and plastic sleeves for badges
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aaronpk the lack of punctuation in that sentence makes it ambiguous whether you are telling me to order those or telling me that you are going to order those
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[jgmac1106] I am going with a missing subject over bad punctuation...I can order them have everything all priced out from Berlin Organizers, its cheap
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[jgmac1106] but didn't want to until you and [tantek] weighed in, I can wait for later west Coast time
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aaronpk for which event?
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[jgmac1106] Summit, only takes 5-7 to ship so we have some time
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jeremycherfas If not aaronpk then require once [Rose]. See, I'm getting the hang of this.
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aaronpk i have a bunch of stuff already so plz don't order anything yet
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[jgmac1106] ...we never thought about offering lanyard branding as a sponsorship perk
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[jgmac1106] sounds good
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aaronpk more helpful would be to make a list of what we need ont he wiki and then i can check off what i already have
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[jgmac1106] okay you want it on the kit page or summit planning?
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aaronpk summit planning
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[jgmac1106] perfect
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/2019/Planning
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Zegnat lanyard branding as sponsorshit? I’d specifically prefer unbranded lanyards for reusability sake
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aaronpk 👍
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aaronpk i still have a bunch of these nametags https://www.flickr.com/photos/tollwerk/27451584076/in/album-72157669305156105/
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jgregorymcverry.com edited /2019/Planning (+281) "/* To-do */ added lanyards and badges" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] oohhh perfect
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[jgmac1106] then we can save money on the plastic covers doing one's with the whole
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[Rose] I have the organisers box right now, I will try and document it tonight, if not it will have to wait until after WWDC
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[calumryan] Didn’t realise MozFest was so soon after Brighton, I have room if anyone is planning to stay around for that week
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[jgmac1106] are you a Wrangler this year? or just local?
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[calumryan] Just local
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[jgmac1106] thanks for room share offer, make sure to put that on the Brighton page if the offer stands for the weekend as well
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jeremycherfas Travel up to London and Greenwich each day? Need to factor in the cost of that too.
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petermolnar shouldn't be more expensive than an accommodation to be honest
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petermolnar Brighton is expensive
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petermolnar which is unfortunate
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[calumryan] I’m only talking about the MozFest part, Brighton is a 90 minute, 3 leg journey from me albeit only £10 day return if you’re up for that too
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[calumryan] Greenwich is within an hour from me - so yes going their each day and back
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jeremycherfas Sorry [calumryan] I thought you were in Brighton, which is handy for IWC, not so much for Mozfest.
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petermolnar checking Brighton prices, 1 person, Oct 19-20, 700GBP o.O
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petermolnar ok, there are more reasonable things
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[jgmac1106] ouch a flight????
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petermolnar no, the room
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[jgmac1106] probably that much for me, always been lucky enough to travel on Mozilla's dime
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petermolnar the train price is quite reasonable from Cambridge to Brighton
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[jgmac1106] but I won't have that funding source this year
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petermolnar just takes long
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[jgmac1106] that has to be under three hours..
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petermolnar direct train, no change, a day return ticket (uk railway system and it's imperial weirdness) is 30GBP CBG-BTN
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petermolnar ~2 hours 40 mins
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jeremycherfas Direct? That's new. Is Crossrail open or something?
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petermolnar no idea, but it's saying 0 changes
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petermolnar probably new
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[calumryan] That’s the other line Thameslink
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petermolnar Sat there Sun back is 55GBP
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jeremycherfas Oh, right. I think I've seen those at Gatwick.
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petermolnar so it's either 2x30 and 2x 6 hours of travel or 55 + hotel + 2x hours travel
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petermolnar I'll see how it goes
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petermolnar to be honest the bed & breakfasts in brighton have no soundproofing at which point the seagulls make it near impossible to sleep
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petermolnar maybe not in october
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[calumryan] The end carriage is always declassified on Thameslink so go there for nicer seats and power sockets
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petermolnar good to know
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[jgmac1106] if seagulls keep you you would never sleep in NYC...i hate trying to sleep in cities so much noise and light...give me rodents with winds any day
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[jgmac1106] rodents with wings* stupid gulls
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petermolnar never been to NYC
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petermolnar but 200-300 hundred years old wooden b&b on the Brighton shore vs seagulls is bad enough :)
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[grantcodes] Hardest part about starting a HWC is figuring out an appropriate city emoji
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[jgmac1106] [grantcodes] aren't you in a different city every day?
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[jgmac1106] what city are you launching
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[grantcodes] Hehe nah I am now permanently in Madrid, Spain
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[grantcodes] I'm going for the bear 🐻 since a bear eating from a strawberry tree is the symbol of the city
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sebsel but the bear is also Berlin :P how about 💃? it looks like a flamenco dancer
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sebsel hm, the guitar is an electric guitar (at least on Apple), so that one is out
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sebsel is just thinking of general Spanish stuff
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[grantcodes] Ah man I didn't see Berlin on the page I was doing
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[grantcodes] I would have gone for 🐻 if everyone else didn't have single emojis 😛
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sebsel they might have a different emoji, I haven't checked. but Berlin has a bear a symbol of the city too
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[jgmac1106] !tell [aaronpk] did we turn off twitter syndication to meta or does the app need a kickstart?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[grantcodes] Well every city is either a bear or a lion
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[jgmac1106] wow congrats on Madrid...now I have to start choosing my cities by their emoji
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[jgmac1106] 💃for the flamenco?
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[jgmac1106] figure too many veggies and vegands for a bull
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[jgmac1106] I thought there was a new churro emoji but I guess not
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[grantcodes] A bull is controversial. And paella would be offensive to madrileños 😛
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[grantcodes] I looked in a bunch of 2019 hwc and didn't see Berlin using it so I'm claiming it 😄
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sebsel haha, go for it!
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[tantek] IWC Berlin has been using bear
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[tantek] alright I have to do food ordering for Summit. Would anyone be offended with vegetarian food for breakfast and lunch?
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[tantek] (with vegan / no-dairy options)
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[jgmac1106] no its Portland, it will actually be good
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[tantek] Organizers << Capture food preferences/requirements for IndieWebCamp tickets, OR at a minimum express up front what the food provided will be, e.g. OSBridge was very upfront that only vegan food was provided for lunch (if folks want to supplement with their own they can do so)
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Loqi ok, I added "Capture food preferences/requirements for IndieWebCamp tickets, OR at a minimum express up front what the food provided will be, e.g. OSBridge was very upfront that only vegan food was provided for lunch (if folks want to supplement with their own they can do so)" to the "See Also" section of /Organizers https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=61762&oldid=61392
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[jgmac1106] and Summit trends more veggie than any other locale
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swentel I'm vegetarian, so I'd welcome it very much :)
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swentel Last DrupalCon Europe was also completely vegan
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swentel most people sometimes don't notice
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swentel and vegans/vegetarians are happy, so it's a win-win all over
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[tantek] swentel, was the DrupalCon Europe vegan food explicit, like is there a page you can point to describing it / setting expectations? I'm looking to collect examples
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swentel [tantek], probably on the profile page - there's a mention about food on https://www.drupaleurope.org/onsite-resources
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swentel as user profile page when you have an account
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swentel can't remember exactly anymore
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swentel there's also https://twitter.com/hukkajukka/status/1040186240585355264
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@hukkajukka Great atmosphere, interesting talks at #DrupalEurope. And btw, all food vegetarian/vegan with no single-use wrappings whatsoever. That's the way to go! (twitter.com/_/status/1040186240585355264)
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swentel I know other people mentioned it too
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swentel [tantek], https://www.drupal.org/project/drupaleurope/issues/3007861 is interesting
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swentel the pdf describes the process of decision making of the whole event
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swentel including food choices etc
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swentel around page 55
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[jgmac1106] I think we can say we are going vegetarian/vegan for 1: greater inclusion, 2: reduce our impact on the climate crisis, 3: because veggie/vegan food is soooo Good in Portland
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[eddie] Apparently now we need a cities emoji page that catalogues the emoji being used by each city lol
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[jgmac1106] eddie could they be added to the table here or too small: https://indieweb.org/Events#IndieWebCamps
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[eddie] I think the issue is there are cities with HWC but not IWC
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[jgmac1106] there is HWC table below
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[eddie] That table doesn't list cities
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[jgmac1106] ohh but thatall cities
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[jgmac1106] yep need a category for cities does that exist
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[eddie] I don't think tying that to anythign date related is a good idea
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[jgmac1106] yeah bad idea
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[eddie] because an HWC might be on a short term hiatus, but they have had an IWC and HWC in the past, it would be good to document the emoji they used
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[eddie] etc
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[jgmac1106] no category for cities, can't wait to see the emoji directory you make eddie
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[jgmac1106] https://indieweb.org/Special:Categories
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[eddie] There, city emojis is created. It contains every emoji I could find by looking through several pages but I'm sure it's missing some that will need to be added at a later date
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[tantek] ugh we didn't need a separate page for that
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[tantek] also it encourages too much squatting
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[tantek] we should literally just use /HWC for this
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[tantek] want to use an emoji with your city? great, actually make a HWC happen first
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Loqi totally
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[tantek] more important to list your city on /HWC than on some emoji side-table
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[tantek] in fact let's gamify this instead
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[tantek] you need to organize an IndieWebCamp *or* at least a few consecutive HWC meetups to get an emoji for your city
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[tantek] then if your city has neither for a year, you lose your emoji
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[tantek] swentel++ this is a good resource https://www.drupaleurope.org/onsite-resources
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[tantek] Organizers << Consider aspects of other conference "onsite resources" and if we can provide similar things, or at least make explicit instead of passive decisions about them: https://www.drupaleurope.org/onsite-resources
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Loqi ok, I added "Consider aspects of other conference "onsite resources" and if we can provide similar things, or at least make explicit instead of passive decisions about them: https://www.drupaleurope.org/onsite-resources" to the "See Also" section of /Organizers https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=61765&oldid=61762
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[eddie] tantek "ugh we didn't need..." There is no reason to show attitude when someone is trying to be helpful
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[eddie] don't want the page? fine, delete it, edit it. Do whatever you want. Just don't be a jerk
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[tantek] eddie, sorry that's true
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[eddie] Thank you
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[tantek] (easy to forget that level of tone is not conveyed in text like it would be IRL, and may (is likely) to be taken more negatively than expected, through no fault of the reader)
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[tantek] I should have instead phrased it as a question
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[jgmac1106] nice to see CoC work, call out misteps, apologize when wrong or when their is a perception of wroning
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[tantek] eddie, WDYT of using the existing HWC page instead? and maybe making emojis something cities could earn by being consistent hosts?
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[eddie] absolutely, phrasing it a question changes everything. I think the HWC page is a great contender.
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[eddie] And I like that fact that it encourages cities to remain consistent
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[tantek] thanks [jgmac1106]. in particular important for /Organizers to be exceptionally responsive to CoC
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[jgmac1106] and solves grant's issue of sorting through past emojis
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[eddie] So I'm thinking we add the existing emojis to the Regular Meetings cities, Popups, Getting Started and Needs Restarting all don't seem like they should have emojis
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[eddie] depending on the consistency of the Popups they might have them
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sebsel I like the gamification idea :)
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[tantek] agreed eddie
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[tantek] I think HWC "Regular Meetings" OR annual IWC would be a good bar
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[tantek] for "earning" your emoji
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[eddie] :thumbsup:
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[eddie] any idea on where to list IWC emojis?
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[eddie] if they don't have a regular HWC
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[tantek] Would it be worth putting a summary box at the top of /IndieWebCamps of regular annual IndieWebCamps?
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[tantek] note that we have pages for most cities now!
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[tantek] what is Portland
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Loqi Portland (AKA PDX) is a city in the US state of Oregon, the site of the inaugural IndieWebCamp, annual IndieWeb Summits, and monthly Homebrew Website Club Portland meetups https://indieweb.org/Portland
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[tantek] what is San Francisco
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Loqi SF is an abbreviation for San Francisco, a city on the West Coast of the United States, and one of many cities that has hosted a IndieWebCamps, and currently hosts fortnightly Homebrew Website Club meetups https://indieweb.org/San_Francisco
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[eddie] Oh nice!
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[eddie] So an IWC with two consecutive years would be considered regular? or would you consider something else to determine that?
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[tantek] I'd be willing to let even a planned IWC earn an emoji provisionally, then only lose it if it was canceled / no one showed up
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[tantek] I think we stated a success criteria somewhere of 3-5 participants minimum including remote?
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[eddie] That makes sense
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[tantek] as part of also being considered a "current" Organizer
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[tantek] so we could re-use that
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[tantek] what are cities
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Loqi cities are a good place to organize and host both IndieWebCamps and Homebrew Website Club meetups; see the list of cities below which have all had one or the other both in the past few years https://indieweb.org/cities
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[tantek] eddie, perhaps redirect city emojis to ^^^ ? WDYT?
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[eddie] Yeah, that seems good
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[tantek] which currently inconsistently has emojis 🙈
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[eddie] haha yeah I just noticed that
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[eddie] The key question is do we use the summit icon for Portland? or just the summit?
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[tantek] I think just summit?
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[eddie] :thumbsup:
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[tantek] I feel like in the past Portland has used ☕ or maybe 🍺 though I'd prefer to avoid alcohol associations with IndieWeb events
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[tantek] TIL Portland has five sectors
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[tantek] ooh 🌹 could work for Portland
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[eddie] I apparently don't know much about portland haha
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[tantek] Portland has been called the "City of Roses" for over a century
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[eddie] oh!!!
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[eddie] lol
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[tantek] per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland,_Oregon
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[tantek] what is a city
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "city" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "city is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] city is /cities
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Loqi ok
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[grantcodes] Haha man this is in depth for something that probably won't be very sustainable 😅 ask schmarty about emoji politics
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[eddie] What is city emojis?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "city emojis" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "city emojis is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[eddie] city emojis is /cities
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Loqi ok
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[schmarty] Hahaha 😅
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Loqi rofl
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[eddie] True BUT there are probably much fewer hwc/iwc cities than people signing up for the IndieWebRing
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[tantek] Eddie I think your list was more complete
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[eddie] Ahh, I didn't know the criteria for /cities so I just moved the emojis and didn't modify the cities themselves
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[tantek] eddie, we could curate the top list, and have an auto-generated "All Cities" section with some of gRegorLove's Category magic
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[eddie] Nice! That seems good!
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[eddie] Because in reality, Federick should move out of that top section and just into the bottom section
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[tantek] eddie makes sense, go ahead and edit /cities - I'm not touching it
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[eddie] :thumbsup:
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[tantek] yay gRegorLove in the house!
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eddiehinkle.com created /Frederick (+498) "Add Frederick city page" (view diff)
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gRegorLove hehe, "emoji politics"
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[tantek] need your help with https://indieweb.org/cities#All_Cities
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gRegorLove What type of category magic do you mean?
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gRegorLove Ah, I see
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eddiehinkle.com edited /Frederick (+19) "Add cat city" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /Category:city (+77) "summary, no parent cat currently" (view diff)
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[eddie] I have to say, I like how the emojis on the regular meetings cities help them stand out in the VERY LONG Table of Contents on the /HWC page
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gregorlove.com edited /cities (-21) "/* All Cities */ categorytree" (view diff)
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[eddie] Emojis actually improving the UX rather than just looking pretty! 😄
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gRegorLove Woo, cat city! 😻
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[eddie] 😆
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[eddie] Looks great, gRegorLove!
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[tantek] !tell aaronpk any way to autogenerate a world map based on https://indieweb.org/Category:city ? like with giant IWC logo colored pins for the cities? (yellow HWC, orange IWC, red has both?)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk Oh I bet I accidentally deleted the api keys I was using for the twitter search in my Twitter app purge this week
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aaronpk Auto generated map would be fun!
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gRegorLove Should we canonicalize city page names to include state or country?
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[tantek] could put that in an h-adr on each City page itself
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aaronpk Need to add gps cords in an h-card in the city page
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aaronpk yeah h-adr
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[tantek] lol. I'll leave it to the expert 🙂
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aaronpk I don't wanna rely on geocoding from text, that's really messy
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aaronparecki.com edited /stable-pages (+2) "Add /principles, remove /projects" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /stable-pages (+3) "Add code of conduct, remove site-changes as that page has not been reviewed in a long time" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /SF (+314) "h-adr, emeritus organizers" (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk, how's this h-adr? https://indieweb.org/SF
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gregorlove.com edited /Bellingham (+255) "h-adr" (view diff)
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aaronpk Hm that's an interesting one
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tantek.com edited /SF (-49) "DRYer, pick lat long of most recent HWC :D" (view diff)
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aaronpk that's an h-adr child of the h-entry that's the page
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[tantek] only because there's no obv way to override the h-entry of the page with a different root microformat
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aaronpk I can deal with that, but should these be special pages like event pages where the page isn't an h-entry itself?
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[tantek] ideally
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aaronpk Right now only h-event triggers that but I can add h-adr too. So if a page defines an h-adr object then the wiki theme won't add h-entry around it
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aaronpk Would be worth seeing if any other pages have an h-adr already tho to avoid accidentally changing those
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[frank] Thinking about an emoji for Utrecht...
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gregorlove.com edited /User:Gregorlove.com/sandbox (+492) "h-adr infobox prototype" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Thoughts on that? ^
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aaronpk Nice!
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gRegorLove emoji optional, can add the other h-adr fields as optional params
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gregorlove.com edited /site-deaths (+31) "archive goo.gl" (view diff)
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aaronpk Good idea ^^
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tantek.com edited /Category:city (+29) "see also" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /cities (+61) "add a few from cached tab of city emojis, plus 🌹 Portland" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Austin (+28) "🌮" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Baltimore (+18) "emojicon" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Baltimore (+6) "move TOC down" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Seattle (+28) "cat city" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Utrecht (+109) "cat city" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Utrecht (+4) "typos" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Berlin (+18) "emojicon" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Portland (+18) "🌹 for the City of Roses" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /NYC (+18) "emojicon" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /cities (+132) "Recent Cities, -cities with no IWC or HWC in past two years, Seattle "timber town", Oxford University" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Seattle (+18) "emojicon" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /SF (+52) "more emeritus" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+18) "SF emeritus plus Stacey" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /cities (+21) "+New Haven for IWC" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks786] 🌷 For utrecht? Or is that for Amsterdam?
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[tantek] Amsterdam is 2nd on this list https://theculturetrip.com/europe/the-netherlands/articles/the-best-places-to-see-tulips-in-the-netherlands/ but no sign of Utrecht
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[kevinmarks786] 🐰 For Miffy (Nijnte) for Utrecht?
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[tantek] I'm waiting to hear from [frank] and [tonz] for what emoji they think would be appropriate for Utrecht 🙂
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[tantek] what is Utrecht
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Loqi Utrecht is a city in The Netherlands that hosted an an IndieWebCamp in 2019 https://indieweb.org/Utrecht
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[tantek] KevinMarks, while you're here, I'd like to rename https://github.com/indieweb/blank-gh-site to something more expressive of the function rather than the form
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Loqi [indieweb] blank-gh-site: Setup a simple new indieweb site on a domain name in mere minutes with this project.
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[tantek] for counter-example, note: https://github.com/github/personal-website
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Loqi [github] personal-website: Code that'll help you kickstart a personal website that showcases your work as a software developer.
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[tantek] (which is horribly complicated for getting started, both in terms of hierarchy of stuff, and install steps ceremonies etc.)
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[tantek] but the name is good "personal-website" which we could use
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[tantek] or to keep it simple by scoping the name, something like
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[tantek] "personal-homepage" or "personal-home-page" as a bit of insider humor
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[tantek] or since it's a starting point
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[tantek] "starter-home" or "starter-homepage" or "starter-home-page"
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[tantek] want to get started? just SHP it
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[tantek] thoughts? other suggestions?
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jacky homepage feels a bit constrainted
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jacky like it's only for one thing
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jacky but it'd be more accurate than that repo
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[tantek] that's exactly right tho, and that's good because we don't want that repo to bloat beyond a simple starter homepage
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jacky gotcha
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[tantek] jacky, still not seeing your RSVP on https://tantek.com/2019/149/e1/homebrew-website-club-sf - did you send the webmention? from/for which URL?
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[tantek] (older events are showing your past RSVPs so I know my general use of webmention.io is working)
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jacky ah I hadn't made the patch yet
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jacky it'd show up as just a reply not a rsvp
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jacky deploying fix
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eddiehinkle.com edited /cities (-153) "I’m pretty sure Bellingham/Seattle should be the same. Feel free to correct if that’s inaccruate" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks786] That's not a bad name.
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[kevinmarks786] Do we have a sense of what people search for?
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[tantek] [eddie] they're different and more than an hour apart I believe
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gRegorLove [eddie] do you mean same emoji?
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gRegorLove Coffee could work for Seattle
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gRegorLove Yeah, ~90 minutes away. Almost Canadia! :)
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[tantek] oh no looks like edit collision, my edits got lost eddie, mind if I revert?
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[eddie] Ohhh really? Interesting. I’ve always heard of them in the same sentence
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[eddie] Feel free
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[eddie] But I am on the east coast
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[eddie] Oh no, Sorry about the collision!
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[kevinmarks786] How about my-first-website ?
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[tantek] might not be their first?
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[tantek] also wondering about cloned project name longevity
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[tantek] like once they fork the repo, they have it with that name by default right?
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[tantek] which is "That's not a bad name"?
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jacky yeah
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jacky (re: having it with that name)
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jnoh.net edited /events/2019-05-29-homebrew-website-club (-11) "/* San Francisco */" (view diff)
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[tantek] jacky++ for the green banner at the bottom of jacky.wtf
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Loqi jacky has 12 karma in this channel over the last year (57 in all channels)
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[tantek] thinking of copying that or doing something similar if that's ok
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jacky totally!