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cjwillcock.ca
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[tantek]
what is on-ramp
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[tantek]
what is Getting Started
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "on-ramp" yet. Would you like to create it?_W (Or just say "on-ramp is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Loqi
Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the indiewebcamp community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other indieweb essentials https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started
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loqi.me
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[tantek]
this from [fluffy] "thing that seems to discourage folks is that there’s a big pile of protocols" is exactly why we must make it a *small* pile of protocols that you actually need to interoperate with folks on the IndieWeb, rather than trying to be "polite" and be inclusive of all the protocols
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[jgmac1106]
Tantek its also the "three column design" your microblog, use a cms, build a cms narrative. That is the truth that needs to surface with no effort on the user
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[fluffy]
I think in an ideal onboarding situation it’d just be like, here’s a CMS and some default templates you can use, here’s how to get started with it
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[fluffy]
I mean that’s what the wiki page sort of is, but… it feels so involved right now
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[fluffy]
like the micro.blog one seems like it should be the easiest but even then it has like 10 steps to follow
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[fluffy]
I’m not personally a fan of WordPress for a bunch of reasons but at least on that side of things it mostly boils down to “install WordPress, now install these plugins, congratulations now you have an IndieWeb site”
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[tantek]
Similarly for Drupal
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[tantek]
Even fewer steps for Known
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[tantek]
that's good feedback about micro.blog
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[tantek]
ideal onboarding for many people shouldn't even mention CMS. literally here is a service to sign-up with, pick a domain name, and you're setup
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[tantek]
I agree there is a strong CMS use-case to keep. As well as the "simplify things for developers in general" use-case.
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[fluffy]
And in a bigger picture view, maybe have things where like, guided Q&A for what do you want to do? here’s ways you can do it. Want to follow others? Here’s how! Want to send replies and favorites? Here’s how! That sorta thing
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[tantek]
I agree, that sort of dialog method of onboarding works better for some folks
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[tantek]
to-do << Simplify [[Category:building-blocks]] into a section with shortest possible list of IndieWeb Building Blocks necessary for interop, including using clustering to make fewer total blocks.
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Loqi
ok, I added "Simplify [[Category:building-blocks]] into a section with shortest possible list of IndieWeb Building Blocks necessary for interop, including using clustering to make fewer total blocks." to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=62765&oldid=62203
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gRegorLove
Do I hear an onboarding / tutorials session at summit? :)
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[tantek]
[gRegorLove] there's already people working on Tutorials and I have yet to see any tutorial collaborations actually work (though folks are willing to try). So far [chrisaldrich] did his version of tutorials, then j12t did his version, and [grantcodes] did yet another version, on a separate domain
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[tantek]
If you have a suggestion for how folks could work together on Tutorials, that would be very helpful!
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[fluffy]
http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/chatter/6968-Re-Webmention-support-for-static-sites was an interesting interaction a few weeks ago - I hadn’t considered that mentioning that the way I phrased Pushl’s capabilities made it sound like it *required* WebSub support, for example.
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[tantek]
gRegorLove though your higher level suggestion is an interesting one, perhaps we should make [chrisaldrich] and j12t sit together in a room until they come up with a joint tutorial strategy 🙂
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gRegorLove
No specific suggestions, just trying to get mentally geared up for summit.
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[tantek]
I think we can do some nudging
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[tantek]
because they're both very passionate about the need for tutorials, as in that's what the indieweb needs the most (they've both expressed that separately)
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[fluffy]
And whenever I talk about this stuff to technically-savvy folks who aren’t already immersed in the world, they don’t understand the point or get really lost trying to figure things out. Like, my coworker is really sharp and follows a lot of tech stuff, but when I mentioned IndieAuth he was just completely lost trying to understand it or how it might be used (but he’s also deep in the SAML world).
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[tantek]
From a community perspective, I'd like some way for the tutorials to be sustainable, that is, community maintainable, rather than single-author snapshots in time
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[fluffy]
yeah and I absolutely think a wiki is the right way to go in the long term
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[tantek]
fluffy, yes that's the other challenging perspective. The developers who are already experts at much more complicated technologies 😂
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[fluffy]
haha yeah
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@WOMProtocol
Will indie social media save us? The New Yorker took a look at the IndieWeb could help democratize, decentralize and diversify the internet better. #socialmedia #indie #BetterInternet #BlockchainSummit https://buff.ly/30qy7pg
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[fluffy]
And articles like that one that was just posted (again!) are interesting but also a bit maddening because they sort of get a lot of key details wrong or at least “technically correct”
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[tantek]
they give people hope, and they give a name to that hope "IndieWeb" which is frankly a huge boost for discovery
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[fluffy]
Oh sure, and I absolutely love that the mainstream press is evangelizing an open Web.
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[tantek]
such articles are close enough to provide a top level overview even if they get details wrong
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[jgmac1106]
The author also admittedl5never truly lived online amd still believes in a dichotomy of spaces
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[jgmac1106]
Of the New Yorker piece... I mean... Sorry for typos
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[jgmac1106]
And supremacy of "offline"
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[fluffy]
yeah, my two main gripes about the article (which are minor) are that it conflates Mastodon with IndieWeb (which isn’t to say Mastodon *isn’t* IndieWeb but it’s… sorta using a completely different set of design ethics?) and that it focused on queer.party as being an “NSFW instance” which is a great way to spark me, a queer.party user, into ranting about how queerness isn’t NSFW
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[fluffy]
like allowing (tagged!) NSFW content is not queer.party’s defining characteristic, it is being a safe space for queer folks.
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[tantek]
fluffy, I'd definitely like your perspective on our three column design approach!
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[fluffy]
[tantek] I feel like I missed some specific context.
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gregorlove.com
edited /onboarding (+252) "/* See Also */ Sessions link to past IWC sessions"
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[jgmac1106]
[fluffy] and I think this is the author's general ignorance. It's a vegetarian's guide to cooking pot roast
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[fluffy]
That’s a really good way of putting it yeah.
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[fluffy]
That makes me realize, maybe it would be good to approach folks in the media and try working on a story in collaboration with someone with an audience.
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[jgmac1106]
If you read Digital Minilaism he talks about how he never hung out online, never was on social media. The "real world is better"
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[fluffy]
Bring the technical understanding to them, rather than waiting for them to come to us.
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[jgmac1106]
I hated his "real world" used our digital worlds to make my own. Yep... Bring techincal understanding... Teaching
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[jgmac1106]
My real world is his fake world. False dichotomy. Only thing a paradigm is worth is 20 cents
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[fluffy]
Yeah. And then like, I wonder how much of a disconnect there is between what I want as a web citizen and what most people want. Like, I really loved the way the blogosphere worked circa 2005 – slow, larger, thoughtful updates, rather than instant quips; feed readers that make it easy to skim past the stuff you don’t care about while focusing on the stuff you do.
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[fluffy]
This is a big part of why I still use FeedOnFeeds for subscribing to stuff but use Mastodon (or whatever) to follow folks. I see those as very distinct operations.
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[fluffy]
Like I really don’t understand the usage of Twitter or Mastodon or whatever where people actually read everything that shows up on their timelines! That just seems like a great way to get burned out.
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Loqi
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[fluffy]
It also feels like there’s a non-trivial amount of effort in that direction in IndieWeb, like with how most things are implementing MicroPub and Webmention and whatever. Which is one of those things that I keep saying I really ought to write a blog entry about as far as impedance mismatches go.
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[fluffy]
I do think that Atom/h-feed/RSS + WebSub are a way better protocol stack for that than ActivityPub, but there’s still the UX issues which lead me to think of “subscribe” vs “follow” as separate sorts of activities.
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[fluffy]
Which are both things I want to do, but I don’t want to interact with them the same way.
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[fluffy]
Tumblr is also in this weird sort of middle ground between the two which doesn’t work at all well for me. The way that replies and reblogs work on Tumblr in particular fill me with dread, and I worry that’s the direction that Webmention is tending toward.
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[fluffy]
I’m just glad Tumblr provides an RSS feed and I can use that to properly subscribe to the handful of Tumblrs that work in a subscription mindset (mostly comics). Although some of the hacks that Tumblr publishers use to get around the firehose-of-follows issue also cause problems, like a lot of cartoonists have a tendency to “reblog for the night crowd” or they’ll self-reblog an update multiple times, deleting the previous instance each
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[fluffy]
(If Tumblr had a “bump” function that didn’t change the uuid, this wouldn’t be an issue.)
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[tantek]
fluffy, yes, sorry, context coming up
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[tantek]
what is three column design
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Loqi
2019/homepage is a project to update the IndieWeb community homepage in 2019, in particular with a three column layout designed for onboarding three common sets of visitors and new IndieWeb community members https://indieweb.org/three_column_design
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[fluffy]
thanks tantek++
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Loqi
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[tantek]
"subscribe" vs "follow" is definitely an area that needs work *and* you're right they're different things in existing UX!
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[fluffy]
i’ll take a look in a bit, my catsitter just arrived 🙂
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[tantek]
no worries, I'm off to dinner soon myself. I hope that /2019/homepage write-up helps with some background and design thinking
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[jgmac1106]
Enjoy! Also thinking just tweak your narrative. IndieWeb means have a website. Wanna get into all that other stuff...That is really cool too.
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[tantek]
[jgmac1106] I'm not sure that narrative fits today's user needs / expectations
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[tantek]
"just have a website" is both easy for existing people that have sites, and confusing to folks who have never considered that they needed one
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[tantek]
I don't think that's a good narrative anymore. I think it was back in the /Generations days, but we're past that, especially with services like micro.blog
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[tantek]
it's more important to make "all that other stuff" as easy / turnkey as possible so it "just works" and is not considered "extra" or "really cool *too*".
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aaronpk
That's an interesting idea
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aaronpk
That we're beyond "just have a website" as a baseline
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[jgmac1106]
So if I read the New Yorker website and decide,"I like this idea! " Should the answer be just get a website or go build all the other stuff?
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[jgmac1106]
Meant New Yorker article? Just think the world is better served the more people who have thwir own space online. Ethos over stuff
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[jgmac1106]
Now as this ethos trickles up and starts to influence stuff the easier it will be for new people to use stuff that shares this ethos
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[jgmac1106]
!tell fluffy In full disclosure Iagree with most of the recommendations Cal Newport makes in Digital Minilaism and often go far beyond. Ideas super sound.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106]
Oops sorry all for the errors
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[fluffy]
ok I’m back. Sounds like I should read Digital Minimalism, thanks jgmac1106++
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Loqi
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Loqi
[fluffy]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 2 minutes ago: In full disclosure Iagree with most of the recommendations Cal Newport makes in Digital Minilaism and often go far beyond. Ideas super sound.
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[fluffy]
yes thanks Loqi++
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Loqi
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[fluffy]
Anyway yeah I like the idea of a three-column design with like “basic” “advanced” “extreme” or whatever
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[jgmac1106]
I love how rem worked this design into their documentation
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[fluffy]
where basic is, like, having a website with some sort of feed (mf2/atom/rss), advanced is being able to send/receive webmention, and extreme is supporting micropub, or whatever
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[fluffy]
and then maybe each of those can link to things with three columns of their own, like having different points on the spectrum for static publishing vs. wordpress vs. hosted app
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[jgmac1106]
Neat idea! Thinking in threes is a human addiction. Think the five paragraph essay.
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[fluffy]
or like, turnkey hosting (micro.blog/blogger/wordpress.com) vs self-hosted PHP app (wordpress/drupal/whatever) vs self-hosted application stack (p3k/publ/whatever)
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[jgmac1106]
Bootstrap..same thing,thinking in threes
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[fluffy]
I sorta want there to be four categories though, to allow for static publishing which has a different set of whatever
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[jgmac1106]
None of the code, some of the code, all of the code. The key is the freedom to move between the three and the community to support you
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[fluffy]
I guess static publishing *sorta* fits in with self-hosted PHP app, at least in terms of operating requirements, but it’s on the advanced end of that for most users who wouldn’t understand git or commandline tools
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[fluffy]
this is also making me think a lot more about how I market Publ, because like… a lot of folks just don’t understand what I’m getting at, and the immediate assumption people have is that it’s a static publishing system. Which it isn’t, it’s just inspired by them.
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[jgmac1106]
Maybe move to chat. Meta is more for community stuff and planning
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[jgmac1106]
If you want to discuss Publ and design decisions on record #dev always works. Have to build with values
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[fluffy]
yeah sorry
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[fluffy]
topic drift 🙂
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[fluffy]
But the Publ mention was just, like, associated with all of the above which probably should have all been in #indieweb maybe?
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[jgmac1106]
No correct answer. Feel free to nudge to any channel and defer to the poster. Just know #chat not archived and considered off the record
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[jgmac1106]
Can't wait for Publ demo in person... Well off to bed for me
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@andigalpern
Yay. I'm flying out to Portland on Friday for the @IndieWebSummit. I booked my flight, hotel, and really looking forward to catching up with my Indie Web friends. Long live semantic code and owning your own data.
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@jackyalcine
↩️ I’m out here for the IndieWeb Summit this weekend! And every other people centric event this week lol (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/44fa4af5-c0cc-4638-87ae-08d63b9d0bd2)
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[jeremycherfas]
Very interesting catchup read in here this morning. I still don’t understand why nobody has (re-) offered Known as a Service complete with domain registration. I don’t have the chops, but truly, how hard could it be? You wouldn’t even have to write a book about micro-blogging. 😇
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[grantcodes]
I'm very pro new indieweb.org homepage, but I don't like labeling at the "three column design" as the content should be thought out before the design.
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@realoomph
Glitch Podcast 18: Frank Meeuwsen (IndieWebCamp)- Gaat het Indieweb het internet redden? https://buff.ly/2WZyC6F
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@patrickloonstra
@frankmeeuwsen Past goed in jou indieweb liefde en waarom we dat weer zo hard nodig hebben.
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@xtof_party
↩️ @sosh_fr Merci Mag / ligne mise à jour iPhone redémarré / SMS à ma maman envoyé :) @Vicnent ++ pour WhatsApp même si c'est pas #indieweb ... - parfait à l'étranger pour éviter les frais de roaming abusifs sur certaines contrées. - petit réseau pour échanger avec mes 3 gosses
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jgmac1106
grantcodes thinking about the content been happening for many, the idea of thinking about different audiences and design started last year at organizers meeting and was briefly discussed at any quarterly meetings
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@johanbove
↩️ Dat is nu net de reden waarom ik vol voor het ondersteunen van de technologien van het #Indieweb ga! Het Internet is niet voor enkel die 4 sites! De indieweb tools werken en maken het houden van een site sociaal, maar zijn vandaag nog… https://social.johanbove.info/2019/06/26/patrickloonstra-dat-is-nu-net-de-reden
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@johanbove
Hele mooie introductie tot het Indieweb, met uitleg in het Nederlands, via de #glitch #podcast aflevering 18. Dank je wel @frankmeeuwsen , @davidlinssen en Robert Went
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@JamieTanna
↩️ @StevenPears But at least you had #NottsTechfast and (hopefully) #HomebrewWebsiteClub later!
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Trying to gather t anonymity workflow stuff we find here: https://indieweb.org/anonymity In the #IndieWeb community folks built this tool for anonymous posting betwen sites: https://indieweb.org/commentpara.de (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/17rVLX)
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@jgmac1106
↩️ Bunch of folks in the #IndieWeb community tracking books and reads. Check out https://indiebookclub.biz/ there is going to be dat night event during the Summit in #PDX this weekend. Maybe folks can talk about read posts. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1u0slX)
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@jgmac1106
such a wonderful time as Micro Monday guest, podcast of @microdotblog. https://monday.micro.blog/2019/06/24/episode-greg-mcverry.html Discussed upcoming #IndieWeb summit and blogs as a Commonplace Book #digped #iste19 #literacies #edtechchat (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1uBmCp)
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@hardfire
↩️ interesting, i will have a look. Have been thinking of hosting a indieweb summit in Kathmandu, Nepal for a long time. one fine day :D
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GWG
[jgmac1106]: Heard your episode of Micro Monday
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GWG
And your Summit thoughts
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@jgmac1106
Wow!! So exciting. In my past experience I wish I learned to Start small, go for a meet up or a homebrew website club before an @IndieWebCamp. Just takes two people and a wifi connection to get going. Will share all the stuff of book clubs and dat night… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/06/26/wow-so-exciting-in-my-past-experience
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MrKapowski
Thanks for linking to https://indiebookclub.biz/ in one of your recent Notes, jgmac1106 - that's a new tool for me to play around with :)
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GWG
MrKapowski, it started as a joke
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GWG
The domain name, not the service
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www.zylstra.org blog
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@sonniesedge
Lovely #indieweb people! What do you think of "/archive/bookmarks/", "/archive/bookmarks/2019/", "/archive/2019/03/bookmarks/" vs "/bookmarks/archive/", "/bookmarks/archive/2019/". "/bookmarks/archive/2019/03"? Where "bookmarks" could be any typical IndieWeb content type.
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@by_caballero
A pretty thorough and useful tutorial on fine-tuning "Minimal mistakes" configurations to make github a better web publishing CMS. Looking forward to using this and finetuning it in the coming weeks! #indieweb #selfpublishing #diy #opened
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Zegnat
aaronpk: I didn’t have much time to look at IRC, did the event planning convo ever get wikified?
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aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk
Zegnat: not yet
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[jgmac1106]
HWC Accra under way
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aaronpk
got one more thing to add to it too
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aaronpk
yesterday i created a coupon code for donut.js, and wanted those tickets to *not* count towards the regular limit
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aaronpk
so they'd be always available even after the regular tickets sell out
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Zegnat
That sounds like a chore in Tito
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aaronpk
it wasn't bad actually!
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aaronpk
i just had to _not_ tie the new ticket type to activities
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aaronpk
and then made the ticket hidden, but linked it to a coupon code
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[jgmac1106]
In our Accra meeting discussing a Creative Commons mini grant as another city in North Ghana wants to launch club
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Zegnat
aaronpk: will that not upset your checkin lists?
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aaronpk
good question, let me check
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Zegnat
Or I guess we came to the conclusion that they should not be based on activities, maybe
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Zegnat
I don’t recall if there was any action where it was important for us to know who signed up (not attended) for day one vs day two
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aaronpk
looks like that's right, we based the checkin list on the ticket type
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aaronpk
oh right, because it was redundant to create three activities
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Zegnat
This tito stuff always makes my head spin, haha
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aaronpk
since the actual "are you going to come to the pre-party" was done as a question when assigining the ticket
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Zegnat
Actually, I just remembered all tickets have all activities, because we only use them for capacity counting
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Zegnat
exactly, the actual thing was a survey question
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aaronpk
yep, next time we should create just one activity
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aaronpk
since it's just to link the capacity of two ticket types
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aaronpk
or if we drop ticket types then that's not needed at all
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aaronpk
Zegnat: i wrote up some notes from what we discussed here: https://indieweb.org/Organizers#Tickets
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aaronpk
feel free to update that if i forgot anything
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Zegnat
Heading for my train, will have a look when seated
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[tantek]
[grantcodes] the new home page was/is being driven by content first, which happens to be clustered into three parallel onboarding flows
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[tantek]
The challenge has been every time we talk about it we’ve forgotten what we called it so there’s a lot of convenient redirects that we created so we people could more easily find and iterate on it
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[tantek]
“three column design” is just one of several redirects
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aaronpk
i think maybe the stub notice can be removed?
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aaronpk
i shoulda included that link in the email i sent out
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[jgmac1106]
Wow that is great
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Zegnat
aaronpk: re not knowing what an indiersvp still means if stuff gets collapsed; if the indiersvp author URL matches a URL of someone registered maybe we can put a fun little checkmark or “verified” sign?
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Zegnat
That may also get people to ask “how do I get the verified sign?”
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aaronpk
that's a clever way to handle it
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@ChuckMunson2
Into the Personal-Website-Verse https://www.sitepoint.com/30-web-tools-and-services-to-help-you-launch-your-next-big-thing/ #blogging #indieweb #letsfixit #personal #web #websites #OpenWeb #SocialMedia #Facebook #PersonalWeb #PostFacebook #afterFacebook
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@ChuckMunson2
site-deaths https://indieweb.org/site-deaths Important page on the problem of archiving the web and online content before it disappears forever. #IndieWeb #OpenWeb
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[kevinmarks786]
I like the verified badge idea
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[fluffy]
Oh, accommodation request: will there be decaf/non-caffeinated beverages available at breakfast time?
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GWG
Water is a decaf beverage
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GWG
Trying to remember what we got last time
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GWG
I don't pay much attention to coffee as a non drinker
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[fluffy]
I mean like, orange juice or decaf coffee or herbal tea or whatever.
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aaronpk
i'll confirm today what they've already ordered, and make sure we have something available
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[fluffy]
Thanks!
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[fluffy]
Oh also what is the physical setup like in terms of workspace? Desks/tables? Any height adjustment?
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aaronpk
we'll be there tonight for homebrew website club so we can take some pictures
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@botic
Webmentions sind super. Aber wie verhindert man das Webmention-Äquivalent zum elenden Trackback-Spam? #IndieWeb
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[schmarty]
looks like one or two new updates on interest for IWCNYC. "top" date (highest sum of prefs, tie-breaker on fewest -1s) is 9/21-22.
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[jgmac1106]
schmarty yeah I reached back out to Parsons at New School and they went radio silent. If I do not here by end of Summit will reach out to Pace...unless you know someone..say at NYU
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[schmarty]
NYU will be tricky. there *will* be space, but it's under construction and i don't know if it will be finished and available for fall 😅
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[jgmac1106]
okay Pace will be fall back then if I do not hear from Parsons
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@frankmeeuwsen
Wil je morgenochtend bij je ochtendkoffie ☕ nieuws en tips over het indieweb? Abonneer je als de wiedeweerga (mooi woord) op mijn electronische nieuwsbrief! ✉️ http://nieuws.diggingthedigital.com/
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calumryan.com
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@craigburgess
Since announcing the Homebrew Website Club in Barnsley, it's reminded me of the importance of self-publishing. So few of us do it anymore. It's seen as uncool, and blogs are old fashioned. Then I discovered the IndieWeb, and things changed. https://getdoingthings.com/discovering-the-indieweb/
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