#meta 2019-07-04

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@manton2 Great to hear about last weekend’s IndieWeb Summit from @tomwiththeweather at tonight’s Homebrew Website Club (aka IndieWeb Meetup). The rain let up just in time to sit outside at Mozart’s Coffee. Next meetup in Austin is August 7th. (twitter.com/_/status/1146594080916480000)
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@podviaznikov ↩️ @exkuchme https://indieweb.org/ has similar regular events in different cities. But not in your living room, that might be the difference (twitter.com/_/status/1146619274636582912)
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@JmacDotOrg ↩️ @brianwisti Aw yeah, we call that POSSE! https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1146637621776605184)
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@Johannes_Ernst Did anybody say #indieweb? (twitter.com/_/status/1146672651567394821)
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@erwblo Interesse in het Indieweb? Abonneer je op de nieuwsbrief van @frankmeeuwsen ! Hier: http://nieuws.diggingthedigital.com/?utm_campaign=Issue&utm_content=topprofilename&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Naamloze+%27Zine (twitter.com/_/status/1146673885020131328)
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[KevinMarks] Chromecast could be a good option if we're comfortable demoing in chrome
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-305) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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@calum_ryan ✅ Attending HWC London 10/7/2019 @ ProvenDough, Covent Garden ✏️ https://indieweb.org/events/2019-07-10-homebrew-website-club yes to https://hwclondon.co.uk/meetups/20190710 (https://calumryan.com/note/2845) (twitter.com/_/status/1146716439996502017)
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@IndieWebLife The IndieWeb Movement Will Help People Control Their Own Web Presence? https://www.futurehosting.com/blog/the-indieweb-movement-will-help-people-control-their-own-web-presence/ (twitter.com/_/status/1146721083606872064)
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www.zylstra.org blog edited /Planning (+110) "/* Amsterdam */ venue found" (view diff)
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www.zylstra.org blog edited /Planning (-135) "/* Amsterdam */ venue found and reserved (but still need to inspect it)" (view diff)
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[tonz] all, today I was offered a suitable venue for IndieWebCamp Amsterdam, at CODAM.nl, in the city center. I will inspect the venue later this month for suitability (they have an auditorium for up to 120 people, and workspaces clustered around it). It’s a coding academy , open to all entry levels, and their mission fits well with IndieWeb’s. Their students are a potential group of participants as well, so we can work together on communications t
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[tonz] put IWC Amsterdam on the list as happening. Even though we might still end up at a different venue in the end.
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[jgmac1106] Yeah once you have date and venue secured you move from planning
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sebsel [tonz] nice!
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[frank] tonz++
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Loqi tonz has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (30 in all channels)
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@ken_bauer I am joining @lsanger in a #SocialMediaStrike and signing a Declaration of Digital Independence. See more at my post (on my own #Indieweb site) at https://blog.kenbauer.me/2019/07/04/declaration-of-digital-independence/ Image is @creativecommons BY-NC by @edtechfactotum (twitter.com/_/status/1146780511576186881)
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@julien51 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1146780598662520833)
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@ken_bauer I am joining Larry Sanger in a #SocialMediaStrike and signing a Declaration of Digital Independence. See more at my post (on my own #Indieweb site) at… https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzf22u3lu6n/?igshid=1cp7kkk4quyjp (twitter.com/_/status/1146784019717251072)
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@adactio Brightonians with websites: remember that Homebrew Website Club is happening in the @Clearleft studio from 6pm to 7:30pm this evening. https://adactio.com/notes/15464 (twitter.com/_/status/1146813933363302400)
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[tantek] events/2019-07-04-homebrew-website-club << https://adactio.com/notes/15464
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[tantek] events/2019-07-04-homebrew-website-club << https://twitter.com/adactio/status/1146813933363302400
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/adactio/status/1146813933363302400" to the "See Also" section of /events/2019-07-04-homebrew-website-club https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=63249&oldid=63131
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Loqi ok, I added "https://adactio.com/notes/15464" to the "See Also" section of /events/2019-07-04-homebrew-website-club https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=63250&oldid=63249
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[tantek] posts about << 2017-06-13 [https://www.futurehosting.com/blog/the-indieweb-movement-will-help-people-control-their-own-web-presence/ The IndieWeb Movement Will Help People Control Their Own Web Presence?]
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Loqi ok, I added "2017-06-13 [https://www.futurehosting.com/blog/the-indieweb-movement-will-help-people-control-their-own-web-presence/ The IndieWeb Movement Will Help People Control Their Own Web Presence?]" to the "See Also" section of /Posts_about_the_IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=63251&oldid=61547
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@qubyte New blog post published! https://qubyte.codes/blog/updating-webmention-dispatch tweet by https://tweet-new-blog-posts.glitch.me/ #AboutThisBlog #glitch #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1146842717986705413)
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[tantek] anyone know who is running https://indieweb.life/ or https://twitter.com/IndieWebLife ?
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[tantek] goes to fix links on a 4+ year old page
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www.zylstra.org blog edited /Planning (-37) "/* Save Dates */ Amsterdam 28/29 September" (view diff)
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www.zylstra.org blog edited /Planning (+1) "/* Save Dates */ Amsterdam dates/venue fixed" (view diff)
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jackjamieson.net edited /2019/Schedule (+22) "Change keynote link to refer to Kitt's summary on her website" (view diff)
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[dougbeal] Could the specialized demos be done with Zoom screen share?
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GWG Theoretically
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aaronpk specialized?
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tantek.com edited /2020/Planning (+69) "starting" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2020/Planning (+91) "organizers, things" (view diff)
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[tantek] dougbeal, GWG, what's the context of "specialized"?
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GWG I assumed dougbeal meant ones that needed someone to be logged in
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GWG As in, can't just use the demo computer
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GWG But I could be wrong
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[dougbeal] Yep, that, ones that can’t use a centralized display computer
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jacky is eager for the session videos
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aaronpk 🔜
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jacky lol
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aaronpk !meme videos [soon meme template]
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Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/51M4v_is.jpg
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aaronpk umm no
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tantek.com edited /2020/Planning (+688) "volunteers" (view diff)
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aaronpk [tantek]: I had a thought about the door for next year, it would be great if we could have a dedicated person who stayed downstairs during the morning check-in time
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aaronpk normally that's a relatively easy ask for a volunteer, but it's a little frustrating that it has to be a mozilla employee
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tantek.com edited /2020/Planning (+233) "/* Volunteer roles */ more" (view diff)
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aaronpk so maybe we could see if it's possible to let a non-mozilla person do that for the morning
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[tantek] yes I'll check into the rules around that. I know we couldn't share the building badges with non-mozilla folks
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aaronpk alternately we could ask if they can unlock the 3rd floor elevator from 8:45am-10:15am
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tantek.com edited /2020/Planning (+319) "/* Things */ alternatives for letting people into the building" (view diff)
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[tantek] 2019/Planning << Lesson learned: {{t}} wasn't very productive with updating or commenting on any GitHub planning issues and just maintained his own plain text list (too much hassle futzing with GitHub web UI on a single issue by issue basis). Many (most?) issues required real-time conversation to efficiently resolve, and async-comment-style discussion (GitHub issues) is ill-suited for that (too much cognitive load to switch into an issue threa
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[tantek] out while waiting for replies etc.)
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Loqi ok, I added "Lesson learned: {{t}} wasn't very productive with updating or commenting on any GitHub planning issues and just maintained his own plain text list (too much hassle futzing with GitHub web UI on a single issue by issue basis). Many (most?) issues required real-time conversation to efficiently resolve, and async-comment-style discussion (GitHub issues) is ill-suited for that (too much cognitive load to switch into an issue threa" to the "See Also" section of /2019/Planning https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=63269&oldid=63014
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aaronpk interesting
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aaronpk it's the complete opposite for me
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aaronpk the block-of-text method is too much information for me to skim and see the status of things
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aaronpk the issue-tracking method means I can check things off and they get pushed out of the way so they don't clutter the list. opening up an individual issue means I can focus on just the relevant task that i'm looking at without also seeing all the unrelated other issues
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tantek.com edited /2019/Planning (+718) "Lessons Learned, move one lesson, add need intros plan/process" (view diff)
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[tantek] that can work well for things that can be *checked off* (most things require discussion first) that are well defined tasks. problem is that's not how planning works in practice, which usually starts with fuzzy goals, fuzzy task areas, fuzzy tasks, and eventually discrete tasks (sometimes, or you just get them done if doing them is less work than writing them down). and all of those are different shapes / sizes, and can result in splits (multip
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[tantek] thing), and sometimes merges (multiple things into one), or hybrids (a new thing combined from parts of two others)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2019/Planning (+548) "/* Lessons Learned */" (view diff)
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aaronpk well you added your experience so I added mine. I felt *way* more prepared and in control using github issues compared to past years.
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tantek.com edited /2019/Planning (+225) "/* Lessons Learned */ some thoughts on session scheduling vs first session" (view diff)
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[tantek] Interesting. need to figure out some hybrid approach perhaps. if it's an issue you're completely in control of, then it makes sense to track it however is most productive for you (the general you). if it's an issue that requires collaboration, that gets more complicated
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[tantek] your points about blocks of text and focus make sense
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dougbeal.com edited /events/2019-07-10-homebrew-website-club (-41) "/* Where */ uncommented/updated Seattle" (view diff)
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aaronpk and likewise about things that aren't yet check-off-able tasks
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tantek.com edited /2020/Planning (+197) "/* Volunteers */ Some roles that could help: day 1 lunch coordinators" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2020/Planning (+996) "/* Things */ Higher participation ceiling, add ---- between things to see if it helps break-up the blocks of text a bit" (view diff)
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@triagegirl ↩️ Use GitHub pages, it's pretty much a turnkey thing, https://github.com/indieweb/blank-gh-site Use a service like http://micro.blog, https://indieweb.org/Tutorial_Set_up_micro_dot_blog (twitter.com/_/status/1146890755245404160)
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www.christopheducamp.com edited /User:Christopheducamp.com (+182) "Profile updated. Sailing to Scotland - main interest on UX on a boat : synchronisations / iridium updates" (view diff)
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www.christopheducamp.com edited /User:Christopheducamp.com (+25) "/* Projects 2019 */ https://indieweb.me now based to follow Andy Bell's 11ty efforts on indieweb" (view diff)
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[KevinMarks] Can you have an issue that is a holding point for free form comments, and spin off more structured ones to check off?
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