#meta 2019-11-02

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@angsuman Site-Deaths https://indieweb.org/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/1190429533091946496)
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mblaney aaronpk is there a deploy process to fix the logs for https://chat.indieweb.org/2019-11-01?
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aaronpk Yes
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aaronpk its unfortunately not a two way automatic sync
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aaronpk did someone find the problem in the logs already?
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aaronpk ooh i see it
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aaronpk whole bunch of null characters on line 60
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aaronpk lol github diffing can't even notice the difference and won't let me commit the edit
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mblaney oh sorry I went to fix it and saw all the missing lines in there and assumed it was fixed.
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aaronpk hm?
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aaronpk ok just fixed and deployed!
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aaronpk logs are back
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aaronpk thanks for the reminder
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mblaney as in I thought the problem was that the lines were missing.... not that data corruption was stopping the page from being rendered.
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aaronpk ah gotcha
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aaronpk yeah i tracked that down this morning, and once i realized it was continuing to write data to the file just fine, i left it alone to go teach the workshop
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aaronpk totally forgot about it again til just now tho
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James___ Hello.
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[tantek] Redecentralize Conference lightning talks posted!
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[tantek] Mine is at https://youtu.be/SZK8FZ2XIKk?t=1721
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[manton] [tantek] Yes, we have Feb 22-23 reserved at Capital Factory in Austin. Good luck with your talk!
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[tantek] manton++ excellent and thank you!
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Loqi manton has 12 karma in this channel over the last year (58 in all channels)
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[tantek] also if aanyone wants to try clipping out my talk into its own mini video that'd be great!
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gRegorLove [manton], Is 11/6 HWC at Mozart's again?
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[jgmac1106] tantek here you go: https://jgregorymcverry.com/videos/tantekdecentralizedtalk.mov it is only 720p the ff plugin I use no charges to download 1080p
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[KevinMarks] Looks like our full indieweb session is in that too
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[KevinMarks] https://youtu.be/SZK8FZ2XIKk?t=43m46s
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[jgmac1106] yeah I was just trimming yours...you want it
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[jgmac1106] not gonna caption the full talk tantek's three minute one I am captioning now
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[tantek] Does the license allow us to upload to Internet Archive?
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[jgmac1106] umm lemme see if they gave it creative commons on youtub
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[jgmac1106] ugg and the captioinging tool I used made a mess of text to speech ill take some clean up
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[jgmac1106] yeah you can upload to archive.org
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[tantek] I talk a little fast for the machines 🙂
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[jgmac1106] maybe I should keep the new one "All right my name is Tonto the dark, silent."
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[tantek] Oh no
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[KevinMarks] Adding to archive.org would be good, yes
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[KevinMarks] The full session had a bit of a messy start with mics as I was accidentally using the PA to the whole room, so may need trimming more.
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[jgmac1106] I don't have the credentials for archive.org I'll pass htese on to gwg
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[jgmac1106] ....think my captioning software froze at the 3:52 mark...I have just seconds left to clean....gonna walk away make coffee an hope something magic happens
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[tantek] haha I hear you KevinMarks, mine could use more trimming too
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[tantek] no need to include all the futzing with displays at the start
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[jgmac1106] I did trim that in the cpationed version..not captioning kevinmakrs, but we are using rev.co for all the nyc videos
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[jgmac1106] https://www.rev.com/ dollar a minute
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[tantek] wow iMovie is crap. can't even drag and drop a file from Finder into the iMovie start screen. where has Apple's "obvious" UX gone
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[tantek] haha I selected the ~22MB .mov in the iMovie "import" dialog clicked "Import All" and iMovie crashed quit. what a piece of junk
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[tantek] going to try using my iPod touch to edit instead of my Mac
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[jgmac1106] use the free trial of wevideo if you need more than iMovie
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[jgmac1106] !tell arronok, gwg can either of you get these on our archive account: https://jgregorymcverry.com/video/tantekdecentralizedtalk.mp4 and https://jgregirymcverry.com/video/tantekdecentralizedtalk.sbv
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] iMovie died in '07 and then again in '11
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[jgmac1106] I just did all the captioning in a program called screencastomatic..best 15 I spend a year...does almost all the video editing I need
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[tantek] “More than iMovie” like open a 22mb .mov and not crash? 😂
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[jgmac1106] I even find wevideo better than Premier Pro as too many possibilities means I do too little while trying to do too much
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[jgmac1106] in a teaching context..Premier still way more powerful....but Adobe priced all students out of everything
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[jgmac1106] !tell (corrected links) arronok, gwg can either of you get these on our archive account: https://jgregorymcverry.com/videos/tantekdecentralizedtalk.mp4 and https://jgregirymcverry.com/videos/tantekdecentralizedtalk.sbv
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[tantek] just got a 404 for that mp4
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[jgmac1106] @kevinmarks your video https://jgregorymcverry.com/videos/KevinDecentralized.mp4
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[jgmac1106] I forgot the s on videos use the second
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[tantek] ah
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[jgmac1106] and then I messed up the second tell....going to get coffee
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[jgmac1106] no captions on Kevin's video...takes me 3x video length to caption.
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[tantek] [jgmac1106]
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] ++ amazing
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[tantek] now realizing that the extra bits at the start with the display futzing and Ira's commentary is actually pretty funny and a provides a nice human context
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] assuming you still have the longer version, can you export that as mp4?
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[tantek] yeah that's really fascinating. very different emotional experience with a bit of pause / anticipation at the start instead of jumping right into it
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[tantek] The cropped one is a little too tight as it missed the “My name is” and just starts with me saying my name (though the caption has the my name is)
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[tantek] !tell [jgmac1106] if you could upload both mp4 files (longer original mov you linked, and cropped one but with maybe 1-2 more seconds at the start) that would be great!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com edited /events/2019-10-25-redecentralize (+42) "/* IndieWeb Related Sessions */ video coming soon (not wanting to use too much of jgmac1106's bandidth :)" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] ugg yeah I must have cropped a second too much..debated keeping in "Tantek is such a jerk'
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[tantek] that's not what was said though!
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[tantek] Ira was making fun of me, then someone said in response to her, what a jerk, then she said Tantek can take it 🙂
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[tantek] ok now I want to go back to the YouTube to find a precise time start
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[jgmac1106] i know
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[jgmac1106] i fixed the time stamp, one second...and you can hear the jest and friendship in the full video
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[KevinMarks] The original imovie was DV only and they never really used QuickTime right. QuickTime player is a better scratch editor, though that's a bit abandoned now too.
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[tantek] KevinMarks, quicktime wouldn't let me export as .mp4
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[jgmac1106] I trimmed with QT first and then imported in screencastomatic for captioning
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[tantek] QTP that is
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] let me see if I can get the precise words for you
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[KevinMarks] You may need the old QuickTime player.
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[jgmac1106] I have them, not in the clip
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[KevinMarks] It's a mess.
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[jgmac1106] try now: https://jgregorymcverry.com/videos/tantekdecentralizedtalk.mp4
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[jgmac1106] grr but I need to realign the captions...one sec...again
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[KevinMarks] Post QuickTime they lost a lot of functionality
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[jgmac1106] I forgot if you trim video when not in captions you trim captions too, but if you are editing captions and trim video you preserve captions, fix coming
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[tantek] Ira: "Don't panic, this is only just going out live to the Internet"
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[tantek] This is a good start with the nice nature desktop followed shortly by "Is this going to mirror by default or ..." https://youtu.be/SZK8FZ2XIKk?t=1651
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@IndieWebLife #Redecentralize 2019 Session: IndieWeb Decentralized Standards and Methods #indieweb https://tantek.com/2019/301/b1/redecentralize-indieweb-standards-methods (twitter.com/_/status/1190595781117562882)
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[tantek] Also depends on audience I think
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[tantek] For the wiki (and internet archive upload) the cropped version might be better
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[tantek] I might share the longer intro with friends though and folks here in the community. Helps to deshame the whole speaker laptop setup struggle thing
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[jgmac1106] okay luckily had the caption file...I had to reimport as the time stamps got all out of whack..one sec
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[jgmac1106] uploading video now
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[jgmac1106] this is public version with captioning now back in sync...will do friend version later..off to iner and store and then fishing with the kids
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[jgmac1106] https://jgregorymcverry.com/videos/tantekdecentralizedtalk.mp4
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[jgmac1106] https://jgregorymcverry.com/videos/tantekdecentralizedtalk.sbv
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[jgmac1106] get some sleep, you have a talk today...or was it an early morning run around the gateway to the West/
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[jgmac1106] ...which still seems so wrong to say...officially renaming the arch the doorway to genocide
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[tantek] Ugh what ? Maybe that’s commentary / discussion for the chat channel [jgmac1106] ?
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[tantek] Thanks for the new upload of the public version of the talk
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[tantek] For the friends version, just a plain conversion to mp4 is sufficient. Please don’t worry about recaptioning etc
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[tantek] Just leave the captions off the friend version
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+61) "Austin dates & venue confirmed! A few other updates" (view diff)
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aaronpk adds austin to his calendar
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[tantek] aaronpk, if you have time today, I could use help with setting up the 2019.indieweb.org event page and Tito ticketing for /2019/SF. Going to be announcing it this afternoon at WordCamp US
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aaronpk cool I can do that
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[tantek] that way we'll be done with ticketing for 2019!
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aaronpk what's the plan for tickets?
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[tantek] then the question is whether Manton is ready to have tito ticketing setup for Austin
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[tantek] do we have a set of questions to answer for tickets?
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aaronpk good question
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aaronpk let me see if I can write that up
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[tantek] that would be a big help!
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[tantek] that way local organizers can decide what options they are pursuing
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aaronpk checks https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamp_Organizing#Ticketing
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aaronpk I think the only option is whether you want to charge for tickets
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aaronpk and I guess also whether to accept contributions too
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aaronparecki.com edited /IndieWebCamp_Organizing (+402) "/* Ticketing */" (view diff)
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[tantek] TBH I don't think we have enough time to accept applications/contributions for a travel fund to evaluate, accept, and fund people
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[tantek] for Berlin or SF that is
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aaronpk agreed
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[tantek] However that's worth asking Manton about *now*
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aaronpk but also just contributions for food and such
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[tantek] for Austin, because it would be great to get more diversity in Austin
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aaronpk we had both options on the summit tickets
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[tantek] yes Summit makes sense because we're now doing that way in advance
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aaronpk no I mean do you want a "support the indieweb" ticket
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aaronpk not travel assistance
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[tantek] would that just donate to open collective or go to another fund?
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[tantek] I think we need to communicate what it goes towards supporting
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aaronpk it goes into the pile I manage. I added a note in the organizing page saying that organizers can coordinate with me on getting access to it
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[jgmac1106] Yes I apologize.
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[tantek] aaronpk, maybe towards t-shirts? if we want to make another batch for SF?
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aaronpk on the ticketing page it says "If you would like contribute to the IndieWebCamp sponsorship fund, add this ticket to your registration and choose an amount to contribute. All proceeds will go towards covering the costs of the event and our year-round activities."
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aaronpk hm t-shirts would be tough, that requires some careful timing
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[tantek] for SF, Mozilla will be covering the venue and (some of) the food, like coffee, breakfast, lunch day 2
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aaronpk I don't remember the production turnaround, but i'd have to track that down, then we could add a ticket option for t-shirts that has a cutoff so that I can place the order in time
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aaronpk I do have some shirts left from summit, but not all the sizes
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[tantek] so I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable saying proceeds would go towards the costs of the event per se
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[tantek] year-round activities is good
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[tantek] right, I figure another batch would be good especially since we've run out of sizes
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[tantek] that's clever, a ticket option for t-shirts with a cutoff time!
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aaronpk can ask size options there too
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[tantek] I think we should collect t-shirt size options from every ticket assignment
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aaronpk that implies everyone is going to get a shirt :)
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[tantek] because it will help us place the order in general, and if we have enough funds donated to cover t-shirts for all then we can do that
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[tantek] right we have to phrase the question properly
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aaronpk looks like it was 10 days from placing the order to delivery
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[tantek] If we had indiewebcamp t-shirts, what would be your preferred size?
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[tantek] that kind of thing
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aaronpk 11
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[tantek] wow not bad!
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aaronpk can mozilla receive packages and hold them for you?
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[tantek] yes
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[tantek] shipping address on https://wiki.mozilla.org/SF
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Loqi Mozilla San Francisco
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[tantek] c/o Tantek Celik
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[tantek] that should work to ship stuff to me there
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[tantek] I'm guessing our mail room will hold them for me and/or send me an email
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[tantek] probably should plan to get them delivered by the Thursday before at the latest, maybe even the Wednesday before
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aaronpk ok Nov 20th is the cutoff date
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[tantek] just to allow for some slack
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aaronpk they promise 2 week delivery. looks like we got lucky with 11 days
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[tantek] better to go with what's promised
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[manton] Even if we don't open up Austin tickets today, I'd love to maybe put up a page to get people's email addresses to remind them. I think Tito can do that?
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[tantek] great idea manton
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aaronpk should be doable
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[tantek] might be worth forking 2019.indieweb.org/austin and starting 2020.indieweb.org/austin based on that
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aaronpk any reason to not open up tickets though?
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[tantek] that list of questions? e.g. capacity
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[manton] I'm good with opening ticket sales too.
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@DavidWolfpaw @dshanske good to meet you yesterday sorry that I wasn’t able to chat longer. I want to find other ways to get involved helping with tools for WP and #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1190645645809537024)
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[tantek] aaronpk I would be ok with a $10 nominal charge to reduce the no-show rate
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[tantek] capacity 50
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[tantek] and that $10 should say it goes towards supporting the indieweb
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[tantek] instead of having a separate t-shirt ticket
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[manton] Agreed. We did $5 last year but I think $10 is actually better.
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aaronpk hm I can't seem to set a cutoff for questions, just for tickets
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[tantek] yes for ALSO a "Support the IndieWeb" ticket with a box where people can donate more
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[tantek] and then we can gauge t-shirt order accordingly
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[tantek] this is why we should ask for t-shirt size optionally with the "If we are able to get IndieWebCamp t-shirts" conditional
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[tantek] and no need to set a cutoff then
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[manton] I'd love to get 30-40 people for Austin. We can set the max capacity higher.
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aaronpk ok let me finish SF first
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[tantek] after 11/20 we can change the messaging to say let us know your size but we can't guarantee we'll have all sizes
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[tantek] thanks aaronpk!
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[tantek] this is a big help
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[tantek] currently I'm solo organizing it though GWG has agreed to help with video / remote participation which will help a lot
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[tantek] I would love another organizer at a minimum to help wrangle and delegate to volunteers
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[tantek] e.g. sign-in desk with stickers, t-shirts etc.
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GWG I am trying to become the Secondary Point of GWG
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Loqi GWG: [jgmac1106] left you a message 2 days, 13 hours ago: finally going to have time to organize NYC video captioning tomorrow
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Loqi GWG: [jgmac1106] left you a message 4 hours, 30 minutes ago: can either of you get these on our archive account: https://jgregorymcverry.com/video/tantekdecentralizedtalk.mp4 and https://jgregirymcverry.com/video/tantekdecentralizedtalk.sbv
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GWG Or SPOG
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GWG [tantek]: If you need help at SF, we can talk
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[tantek] I definitely need help at SF
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[tantek] what does donut.js charge?
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[tantek] aaronpk, I like their wording
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[tantek] "Tickets are $10 or free and include donuts and refreshments!"
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[tantek] We discussed the self-selected free-ticket option right?
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aaronpk whoa short day 2
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[tantek] Their wording is very good there too, on their tito
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[tantek] yeah
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[tantek] "Free Ticket / If you are a member of an underrepresented or economically disadvantaged group, we offer you a free ticket to Donut.js."
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aaronpk is that a separate ticket option?
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aaronpk ah yea
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by aaronpk: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/98
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aaronpk [tantek]: ^^ merge and it will go live
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[tantek] aaronpk, I'll review that, meanwhile, etherpad.indieweb appears to be down (502 on all URLs)
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aaronpk whoa
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aaronpk weird, no explanation
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aaronpk back now tho
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[tantek] yes I see it
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by tantek: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/98
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aaronpk I think I did all that right! plz test it out!
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[tantek] aaronpk, it's a bit odd to have both the normal ticket mention free as in "Tickets are $10 or free and include refreshments!" and also the Free ticket explicitly under that
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[tantek] in the tito block
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aaronpk I thought that was what you said
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[tantek] sorry lost context
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[tantek] it was, that's the text that donutjs has that links to all ticket options
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aaronpk ahh
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aaronpk should I add that on the page above the tito ticket block?
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[tantek] So we could include something like that as a subhead under Registration, but before the tickets block
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[tantek] and need a more explicit description for the normal tickets
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[tantek] checking donutjs again for their specific description
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[tantek] they have
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[tantek] "Attendee Ticket 40 tickets remaining / Your ticket helps us fund the event and support our fundraising beneficiary."
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[tantek] so since we don't have a fundraising beneficiary yet (we should consider that for next /Organizers meetup)
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[tantek] Maybe something like: "Your ticket helps us fund the event and support our year-round IndieWeb community activities"
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by aaronpk: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/99
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aaronpk ok starting 2020 now
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by tantek: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/99
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aaronpk o.O
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[tantek] seriously
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[tantek] !tell [manton] can you review https://2019.indieweb.org/sf and see if that sounds good to copy for Austin? The one addition to consider is travel funding since we do have *some* time to consider travel funding applicants. I can help with (evaluations of applications for) that *after* IWC SF. I think [tmiller] would like to help too!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi IndieWebCamp San Francisco
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[tantek] aaronpk, getting Austin tickets up would be amazing, especially for the WordPress crowd
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[tantek] sounded above like Manton was ok with ~50 capacity, aiming for expecting 30-40 to show up
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[tantek] so I think the only remaining question is travel sponsorship or not, so I asked that.
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[tantek] if that's too much work, we can launch *without* the travel funding, and then add it later if we all agree it's a good idea
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@ChrisAldrich Wishing I was at #WCUS today to hear my friend Tantek Çelik @t, web standards lead @Mozilla & @CSSwg, talk on "Take Back Your Web" #WordPress #IndieWeb Livestream: https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/livestream/saturday/#240 at 2:30PM Central https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/session/take-back-your-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/1190659684178579456)
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aaronpk ooh livestream
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aaronpk that sounds more pleasant than this sportsball commentary in this coffee shop
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aaronpk I assume tantek will be in room 240?
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aaronpk I am cleaning up the 2020 site so that anyone can enable pulling RSVPs from tito for new events
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aaronpk oh still a couple hours til tantek is on
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loqi.me edited /events/2019-10-30-homebrew-website-club (+194) "[tantek] added "https://twitter.com/dietrich/status/1189778174973894657" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[tantek] !tell gRegorLove since you're capturing/documenting various upcoming HWCs, there's Barnsley coming up on 11/21: https://getdoingthings.com/blog/homebrew-website-club-barnsley-5/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk 🎉
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aaronpk that should do it
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/2020.indieweb.org to https://2020.indieweb.org
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chrisaldrich.net edited /events/2019-11-01-wordcamp-us (+173) "livestream for Tantek's talk at WordCamp US today" (view diff)
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aaronpk I launched summit tickets too
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[tantek] wow
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[tantek] updating links!
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aaronpk *whew* that was a lot
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aaronpk I made the 2020 site work better tho, so it doesn't require as much work to get the RSVPs to show up now
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[tantek] or rather https://2019.indieweb.org/ should link to 2020.indieweb 🙂
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aaronpk no more manually enabling cron jobs
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[tantek] e.g. in the Upcoming section after SF!
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[tantek] with a subhead maybe like
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[tantek] Join us in 2020!
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by aaronpk: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/100
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@mxbck I'm writing about IndieWeb POSSE so naturally I had to look this song up and now it's stuck in my head for the next week. The Party Posse - "Da Bomb". YVAN EHT NIOJ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmTQX_PLsME (twitter.com/_/status/1190683750981603334)
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@mantonsblog Today at 2:30pm central time, Tantek Çelik is giving an IndieWeb talk — Take Back Your Web — at WordCamp US. Check out the livestream for room 240 to watch it live. https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/session/take-back-your-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/1190693237926875137)
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by tantek: https://github.com/indieweb/2019.indieweb.org/pull/100
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[Michael_Beckwit awesome to see that Tantek got a speaker slot for this talk at the biggest WP conference of the year
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@tw2113 @tElizaRose since I know you're interested in IndieWeb, check out the "Take Back Your Web" talk by @t in an hour. Also look around for @dshanske as he's behind a lot of the WP plugins :) (twitter.com/_/status/1190695764420378630)
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aaronpk heh I need a pause button for that
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@WordCampUS 2:30 Rm 240 Join Tantek Çelik for "Take Back Your Web." Own your domain. Own your content. Own your social connections. Own your reading experience. IndieWeb services, tools, and standards enable you to take back your web. #WCUS @t (twitter.com/_/status/1190711437443895297)
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@geonz ↩️ @geogebra LOL #mtbos #OER http://www.resourceroom.net/20OER/index.html is where it lives... #indieweb says put it on my site so there ya go!!! (twitter.com/_/status/1190711647339524096)
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@ChrisAldrich The invited talk "Take Back Your Web" given by the thoughtful and Inimitable @t should be livestreaming in just a few minutes from WordCamp US #IndieWeb #DoOO #WCUS https://2019.us.wordcamp.org/session/take-back-your-web/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D547WuCZIaE (twitter.com/_/status/1190712113469313027)
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@TheDavidJohnson "This is not the web we want." @t after laying out the case against #Facebook and others that manipulate users. #WCUS #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1190714825334235141)
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@mantonsblog IndieWebCamp Austin will be February 22-23, 2020. Registration is now open! Just $10 for the weekend. https://2020.indieweb.org/austin (twitter.com/_/status/1190721000264151042)
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aaronpk !rt https://twitter.com/mantonsblog/status/1190721000264151042
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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@pat_ramsey IndieWeb Austin happening Feb 22-23 2020 #WCUS (twitter.com/_/status/1190722331548815362)
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@HR_TRASH RT pat_ramsey: IndieWeb Austin happening Feb 22-23 2020 #WCUS (twitter.com/_/status/1190722577469186048)
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@ChrisAldrich Interested in becoming part of the #IndieWeb after @t's talk at #WCUS? I'm happy to help or answer questions. I've also got some WordPress specific experiments and documentation (on my own website, of course): https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1190722783170445313)
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@paulbunkham That's got me pondering about what it would take to get @t suggesting that @wordpressdotcom as the best turnkey solution for the #IndieWeb #WCUS (twitter.com/_/status/1190724512901410819)
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aaronpk yesss
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@glueckpress ↩️ @paulbunkham @t @wordpressdotcom A pre-configured Indieweb site template on an affordable plan? (twitter.com/_/status/1190725520385814528)
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aaronpk *whew*
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aaronpk tantek++
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[Michael_Beckwit tantek++
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@paulbunkham ↩️ Yeah, the answer is probably not much then! It could even be free. I wonder what the best IndieWeb theme would be. (twitter.com/_/status/1190726111652700161)
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@HR_TRASH RT ChrisAldrich: Interested in becoming part of the #IndieWeb after t's talk at #WCUS? I'm happy to help or answer questions. I've also got some WordPress specific experiments and documentation (on my own website, of course): https://boffosocko.com/research/indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1190726302002794496)
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@andymci ↩️ @no @t Seconded...! Missed the indieweb session. (twitter.com/_/status/1190726331048304640)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I would also recommend: https://github.com/pfefferle/Autonomie and https://github.com/dshanske/iw26 I think David Shanske has a version of _s as a starter: https://github.com/dshanske/mf2_s #IndieWeb #WCUS (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/dBHhD) (twitter.com/_/status/1190729355426770945)
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[jgmac1106] interesting thoughts here about conferences climate change....and people genrally agreeing with our model without knowing it...https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-W0PPMKvJ5x9Fm1pl48JdnUBZZ5CeLg5iV7MSobu0Gk/edit#gid=116527214
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aaronpk looks like it's private
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aaronpk also what is "our model"?
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[jgmac1106] meant the smaller more frequent events rather than just one international conference. let me change permissions
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[jgmac1106] ..ohh I am signed in as my son's gmail account
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[Michael_Beckwit so like local meetups 😄
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[jgmac1106] that's my problem'
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[jgmac1106] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-W0PPMKvJ5x9Fm1pl48JdnUBZZ5CeLg5iV7MSobu0Gk/edit?usp=sharing basically after a dozen or so more years OpenEd conference shutting down for a variety of reason
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aaronpk um this looks like private feedback with names and email addresses. are you sure you want this public?
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[tantek] So how was that?
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[Michael_Beckwit to quote myself from the WP room: “good job to whet whistles while not overwhelming. Now to just help make it so the overwhelming parts aren’t as overwhelming”
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@jeffpaul So beautiful to see @tantek present @WordCampUS on @IndieWebLife architectural components coming together to allow us to own our content, keep in touch with those we care about, and no longer be beholden to dehumanizing social platforms. #WCUS #IndieWeb http://indieweb.org/start (twitter.com/_/status/1190732404287254529)
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[qubyte] Is Loqi ok? Seems to be lagging a little this evening.
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aaronpk ping
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Loqi pong
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@cathieleblanc Great resource with all kinds of #IndieWeb content. Of interest to #DOoO and #OpenEd folks. #PSUOpen (twitter.com/_/status/1190732628212752384)
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[qubyte] Just a momentary thing I guess 🤷‍♂️
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[jgmac1106] it is an open document with a PD license....I didn't build the form I copied it
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@jeffpaul So beautiful to see @t present @WordCampUS on @IndieWebLife architectural components coming together to allow us to own our content, keep in touch with those we care about, and no longer be beholden to dehumanizing social platforms. #WCUS #IndieWeb more: http://indieweb.org/start (twitter.com/_/status/1190732909084315649)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Would love to remote into the next #PSUOpen #IndieWeb meet-up. Just let m know when the next one is scheduled. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1v2ik1) (twitter.com/_/status/1190733203910344704)
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[Michael_Beckwit [tantek] i made sure not to open FB while you were presenting 😉
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[tantek] Thanks [Michael_Beckwith] 😂
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[tantek] Did anyone catch the live stream?
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[Michael_Beckwit myself and aaron did i know
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[tantek] Curious how that was compared to BTconf
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[tantek] Felt calmer
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[Michael_Beckwit haven’t seen BTconf’s so i can’t compare
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[tantek] It was on Vimeo
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[Michael_Beckwit #indieweb-chat has my brief running comments on your talk
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Been trying to look at communities like #ds106 and #Indieweb from an Innovation Systems model where learning revolves more around agentive #apprenticeship rather than #cognitiveapprenticeship: https://jgregorymcverry.com/SyNatIndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1K5KJm) (twitter.com/_/status/1190738591217016832)
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[jgmac1106] tantek for what is worst I use your BTconf as an example of public speaking in my intro to tech classes so if you feel it is better, congrats
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[jgmac1106] aaronpk background on that data as OpenEd shuts down as confernce after 15years https://eliterate.us/the-crumbling-of-the-opened-coalition/
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[tantek] What is WordCamp
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WordCamp" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "WordCamp is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Hmm
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[tantek] event/2019-11-01-wordcamp-us << Photos: https://twitter.com/jeffpaul/status/1190732909084315649
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@jeffpaul So beautiful to see @t present @WordCampUS on @IndieWebLife architectural components coming together to allow us to own our content, keep in touch with those we care about, and no longer be beholden to dehumanizing social platforms. #WCUS #IndieWeb more: http://indieweb.org/start https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIZVREnWsAEXbpR.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1190732909084315649)
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Loqi ok, I added "Photos: https://twitter.com/jeffpaul/status/1190732909084315649" to the "See Also" section of /events/2019-04-29-virtual-homebrew-website-club https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66104&oldid=59994
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[tantek] Oh now
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[tantek] !undo
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[tantek] events/2019-11-01-wordcamp-us << Photos: https://twitter.com/jeffpaul/status/1190732909084315649
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@jeffpaul So beautiful to see @t present @WordCampUS on @IndieWebLife architectural components coming together to allow us to own our content, keep in touch with those we care about, and no longer be beholden to dehumanizing social platforms. #WCUS #IndieWeb more: http://indieweb.org/start https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIZVREnWsAEXbpR.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1190732909084315649)
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Loqi ok, I added "Photos: https://twitter.com/jeffpaul/status/1190732909084315649" to the "See Also" section of /events/2019-11-01-wordcamp-us https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66105&oldid=66098
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[tantek] There we go
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[Michael_Beckwit a picture of [tantek] right now https://media.giphy.com/media/NnyqfcowpXZOU/giphy.gif 😛
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aaronpk lol
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@t Thank you @WordCampUS and thanks @photomatt for the invitation to speak on “Take Back Your Web”! Huge thanks to @dshanske for all his help! Great questions & seeing so many with their own sites. Follow @dshanske’s awesome #WordPress #IndieWeb ... https://tantek.com/t53N1 (twitter.com/_/status/1190756693212164097)
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@jgmac1106 As #OpenConPilly19 & #OpenEd19 come to close I am also reminded about recent post making round in #IndieWeb chat as needing readers as much as writers..makes me think, "Do what a teacher does, We know community is the curriculum" (or content that works… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/11/02/as-openconpilly19-opened19-come-to-close (twitter.com/_/status/1190757535529291777)
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@t ↩️ thanks for the consideration, appreciated! @dshanske is the real #WordPress Theme #microformats2 expert. I’m sure he can file good issues. @ChrisAldrich is also great at adding #microformats & #IndieWeb to a #WordPressTheme. https://tantek.com/t53N2 (twitter.com/_/status/1190759605426540544)
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@cathieleblanc ↩️ @jgmac1106 We don't yet have #IndieWeb meetups but we should! @mburtis @actualham @PSUOpenCoLab (twitter.com/_/status/1190762698302197760)