#meta 2019-11-01

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[jgmac1106] Really liked the note about "preferred" striking from my vocab. Makes total sense
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] yup, been in our FAQ for a while: https://indieweb.org/pronoun#Why_not_preferred_pronoun
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[fluffy] Yeah. In trans spaces some folks talk about having “utility” pronouns based on context, like sometimes I prefer she/her and sometimes they/them and it depends on comfort level more or less
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[fluffy] or there’s some folks who are like, they/them for the normies but fae/faer among exclusively trans spaces
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@julien51 Now who wants to share the revenues with me? What I ask is simple: put the same lock on your blog and let's split! We can easily create and #indieweb bundle! (twitter.com/_/status/1190081032781008896)
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aaronparecki.com edited /p3k (+370) "/* Random Ideas */" (view diff)
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[tantek] looks like adactio organized a HWC Brighton tonight https://twitter.com/adactio/status/1189888780611866624
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@adactio It’s a Halloween Homebrew Website Club at @Clearleft this evening from 6pm to 7:30pm! You can frighten Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey by having your own website. https://adactio.com/notes/16056 (twitter.com/_/status/1189888780611866624)
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[tantek] but I didn't see any photos
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tantek.com edited /Events (+393) "HWC Brighton tonight per https://twitter.com/adactio/status/1189888780611866624" (view diff)
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aaronpk missed opportunity!
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tantek.com edited /Template:Homebrew_Website_Club (+47) "HWC 10-31 for Brighton" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /events/2019-10-31-homebrew-website-club (+2885) "HWC Brighton tonight per https://twitter.com/adactio/status/1189888780611866624" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+305) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[Lewis_Cowles] adactio++
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Loqi adactio has 9 karma in this channel over the last year (15 in all channels)
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[fluffy] hmm, I wonder why my Publ 0.5.8 post appeared multiple times in the This Week draft
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[fluffy] oh, dang, looks like I accidentally published it twice under different page IDs
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[fluffy] guess I should try cleaning it up
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[fluffy] hm,looks like news.indieweb.org doesn’t know how to deal with webmentions from things that are now status 410
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[fluffy] guess I’ll just 301 it and hope for the best
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-305) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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johanbove.info edited /Planning (+80) "/* Dusseldorf */" (view diff)
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aaronpk I think I need to trash this server
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aaronpk I should probably move as many sites on it to dreamhost/heroku so I can avoid sysadmin tasks too
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@ZeckroWebSol @wencesg says: "we're facing the unethical evolution of many social platforms, but there is a movement called the #IndieWeb that understands you're done with others owning your content and your identity!" https://buff.ly/32LLQbb #startup (twitter.com/_/status/1190239069646794753)
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sebsel aaronpk: how many sites are on that server?
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aaronpk um, a lot
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sebsel but all IndieWeb related?
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aaronpk i've been moving some over to a new server for just community indieweb things
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aaronpk I wanted to move everything on *indieweb.org and things like that to their own place
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aaronpk and I was going to keep all my projects on this one, like webmention.io and aperture, which I don't consider community-owned
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sebsel ah, yeah, so that's the thing that is blocking you from giving other people access to that server?
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sebsel I mean especially things like the wiki might be better off by having sysadmins in different timezones, like petermolnar suggested.
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aaronpk yeah
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sebsel I believe sknebel volunteered too.
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aaronpk the new server is in good shape, but the wiki isn't on it yet
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aaronpk this is what's on the new server https://media.aaronpk.com/Screen-Shot-2019-11-01-05-26-22-7oW8gJPN8N.jpg
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sebsel aaronpk++ that's a lot already
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Loqi aaronpk has 55 karma in this channel over the last year (200 in all channels)
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aaronpk I should probably prioritize the wiki next
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sebsel happy to help with whatever I can
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Loqi definitely
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sebsel The wiki feels like a big thing to move.
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aaronpk kinda
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aaronpk I need to take inventory of it again, but I think after switching to the new mediawiki that already untangled most of it
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aaronpk ok well i'm adding "move the wiki" to my list for my PTO time
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Wow neat, you went from your @withknown site to the @microdotblog community and from there you cross posted to Twiiter, Tumblr and your Fediverse feed. This #IndieWeb stuff is pretty sweet Greg (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/Ith0w) (twitter.com/_/status/1190260418704498694)
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@jgmac1106 @jgmac1106 Wow neat, you went from your @withknown site to the @microdotblog community and from there you cross posted to Twiiter, Tumblr and your Fediverse feed. This #IndieWeb stuff is pretty sweet Greg https://twitter.com/jgmac1106 (twitter.com/_/status/1190267861694140418)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Ohhh @saike25 and I running an #OER and #IndieWeb project as part of @Mozilla Leader X training, if you need mobile first community to study we are rolling out #OER networks across Ghana. Most will only use mobile..don't have to #OpenEd19… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/11/01/ohhh-saike25-and-i-running-an (twitter.com/_/status/1190285408552341505)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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@cswordpress Looking forward to the day when mentions of webmentions replaces mentions of pingback/trackback. #IndieWeb #WCUS (twitter.com/_/status/1190291673298931713)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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[tantek] Looks like the logs aren't updating as of ~1:30am this morning https://chat.indieweb.org/2019-11-01#bottom
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aaronpk There was some downtime but it's back now
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[tantek] something is busted because there's plenty of chat (happening now) in #indieweb that's not yet made it to the logs
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aaronpk That's weird, all the other channels are fine
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@schnarfed ↩️ regardless, thanks for pushing on this! it's still early days, and there's clearly room to improve the UX, on all fronts. feel free to join us in https://indieweb.org/discuss! (twitter.com/_/status/1190303857823248384)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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aaronpk I don't understand how only the main channel logs aren't logging, it doesn't make sense
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aaronpk Oh I bet I know
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aaronpk I bet the filesystem turned read only during a write operation and there's some junk in the file that's causing it to fail at that spot in the logs
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aaronpk just looked at the file and the new stuff is in it, so it's still logging
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aaronpk but displaying the logs is broken. So I can fix that later by cleaning up the file
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aaronpk you should even be able to see the error in the file that's on GitHub
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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@arthurlutzim Pour #pyconfr2019 je m'aventure à faire messages sur mastodon copiés automatiquement vers twitter avec https://crossposter.masto.donte.com.br/ #POSSE Publish (on your) Own Site Syndicate Elsewhere https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1190323459517222915)
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@arthurlutz Pour #pyconfr2019 je m'aventure à faire messages sur mastodon copiés automatiquement vers twitter avec https://crossposter.masto.donte.com.br/ #POSSE Publish (on your) Own Site Syndicate Elsewhere https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1190324936382074880)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (-17) "/* November */ rm non-existent wiki page for WordCamp Riverside" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Think that should fixe the event title in the newsletter "events/2019-11-08"
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gRegorLove Oh, hm, several upcoming HWCs missing wiki pages
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gRegorLove works on that
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gRegorLove [manton] what's the venue for 11/6 HWC?
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gRegorLove and is there an indie event link?
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gregorlove.com created /events/2019-11-06-homebrew-website-club (+2854) "HWC Austin, venue TBD?" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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gRegorLove progress!
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@hbizmag @wencesg says: "we're facing the unethical evolution of many social platforms, but there is a movement called the #IndieWeb that understands you're done with others owning your content and your identity!" https://buff.ly/32LLQbb #startup (twitter.com/_/status/1190341241185193984)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+256) "update from /Events" (view diff)
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@JeffHawkin I liked this article by Patrick Rhone so much that I shared it over on my Meanderthal Blog. I'm leaning toward IndieWeb enabled blogs that share the interests of the blogger and try to draw the reader into whatever the blogger is thinking about as... https://meanderthal.executivewp.com/2019/11/01/how-i-build-websites-a-loose-manifesto-rhoneisms/ (twitter.com/_/status/1190347471907622917)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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[tantek] Kinda meta, didn't have time to take notes *during* HWC SF
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[tantek] We did interactive and small group discussions from 17:30-19:00 when we finally had a good critical mass and took a photo, then just as we sitting back down a few more folks showed up so we took another photo
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[tantek] We did three demos
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[tantek] 1. I demo'd offline support on my site including my "Offline" page instant loading when the network was off, browsing backward through my posts that I happened to have visited earlier, eventually getting to my Offline page when I navigated to a post that wasn't cached. Then lastly I demo'd my offline-first Contact page which will always work quickly regardless of network state since it loads it from cache first
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[tantek] 2. Dietrich demonstrated IPFS support using a browser-add-on in Brave
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[tantek] 3 Rabble demonstrated Planetary, an iOS native app that implements the SSB (Secure Scuttlebutt) protocol for peer to peer sharing / posting and it's quite slick, somewhere between a Twitter / Instagram mobile client for reading who you follow and posting. Gave out invites to everyone there to try it out (requires a form of side-loading)
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[KevinMarks] Ooh, sounds good. I got signed up to Scuttlebutt with the people at redecentralize so I have a good set of peer connections now
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[KevinMarks] (you need to be either on the same network as people or within 2 follow hops to see posts)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I love @cogdog's idea of "we can do more than present slides, tyweet slides, conference, conference" I also like our #IndieWeb model check out event page https://indieweb.org/event all events always free, always unconference, always doing over talking (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/25U4vq) (twitter.com/_/status/1190359403205210112)
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@it_malibu Become a Front-End Master in 2020 With These 10 Project Ideas: This is a little updated cross-post from a quickie article I wrote on DEV. I'm publishing here 'cuz I'm all IndieWeb like that. I love this post by Simon Holdorf. He's got some ideas for how… https://css-tricks.com/become-a-front-end-master-in-2020-with-these-10-project-ideas/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/1190361504618405889)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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@Todd__Davies So, I'm back in the blogging game: https://todddavies.co.uk/blog/starting-a-blog #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1190375622431911937)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html
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@pianomanfrazier How do the indieweb folks handle git hosting? I host a lot of content (gists, template repos,...) on GitHub or GitLab. Should I maintain my own git server and then host mirrors on GitHub? (twitter.com/_/status/1190389180334895104)
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2019-11-01.html https://t.co/0rN9gPZ9Vu (twitter.com/_/status/1190391838298927104)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] !tell [manton] are you going to be able to confirm IWC Austin dates & venue by tomorrow morning? If so I can announce at WordCamp US and I have a feeling this crowd will want to visit Austin
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