#jeremycherfasI don't have that, probably because I am not a subscription member.
#jeremycherfasYeah, the only account I have is the indie one.
#jeremycherfasAh, but, I signed in with the Indie account and now I have the rainbow thing and I was able to get to my vaults. So, all good.
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#boffosocko.comedited /Hugo (+123) "Articles: 2020-04-01 To the Un-Known! How I moved from Known to Hugo" (view diff)
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#jackyhow opposed are we to having something like https://docs.indieweb.org that can serve/hold landing pages for more 'refined' forms/data and using the wiki for persistent / documented discussion on concepts?
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#jackyor even using the /talk pages to handle more of the extra discussion that happens on the pages for the wiki
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#jackymy question is coming from a want to have the wiki present more of a 'unified, singular-ish' voice as well as being something more of a resource versus a notepad
#[tantek]it's come up multiple times. jacky the problem is not a (sub)domain or navigation, the problem is "more refined" is hard work
#aaronpki've been meaning to create an outline of what i'm imagining goes there
#aaronpkthe content is the challenge, not the domain or which tool to use
#[tantek]and planning something around requiring hard work from a volunteer community usually means you get "crickets", or worse, domination by only 1-2 people and their personal viewpoint
#jackyI know - I used the domain to encourage a 'greenfield' versus having to handle with existing work / interrupting the current wiki
#jacky[tantek]: ha, if that isn't the truth, I don't know what is
#[tantek]jacky, the prior response to that"greenfield" is that your own User: page and / subpages are a greenfield to work on anything like that you want! a few people have and have eventually brought forth like brand new WordPress Tutorials and such
#jackyI do think having individual pages that are interactive-ish like your post are needed tho just to demonstrate but having more detail when needed (linking out ideally)
#[tantek]ah that's the other failure mode (after crickets, narrow domination), rapidly becoming out of date, because the bar to maintain "more refined" is even *higher* than creating it in the first place (per jacky's observation that a "greenfield" helps with creation)
#jackyokay I think I might experiment with something over the next few days (still have a bit of a backlog)
#jackywell the 'docs' page would also double as a implementation of what's defined in the docs
#jackybut I don't want to introduce/enforce my thoughts on the site tbh
#aaronpki'd love to take a look at what you're thinking, so an easy way to start is making sub-pages under your wiki user page with rough outlines of the content and structure
#LoqiGet started on the indieweb by connecting with the indiewebcamp community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other indieweb essentials https://indieweb.org/Tutorials
#[tantek]that has other aspects that make separation desirable too, a lot of previous requests for separate docs has been focused on users
#[tantek]like if you're looking at it from a subdomain perspective, dev.indieweb makes more sense IMO than docs.indieweb for that purpose. note we already have spec.indieweb and that does serve a very narrow purpose (which also makes it easier to keep timeless / updated)
#[tantek]Oooh I really like this description *and* I feel like this is a high level vision for where IndieWebify should go / evolve
#[tantek](something we haven't had since the original folks who worked on it disappeared)
#[tantek]Well said: "The goal of the page is allow people (namely developers or code-friendly people) to "tinker" on their site in real-time and get immediate feedback."
#[tantek]I think that would be exceptionally powerful
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#[fluffy]Has there been any more talks about IndieWeb Summit’s future? My understanding is that Oregon’s following the same (or very similar) social distancing easing schedule as Washington State, and even the most aggressive/optimistic end of that would exclude Indieweb Summit from happening as an in-person event at the end of June.
#aaronpkwe decided on friday to cancel it, and do some sort of virtual event around the same time instead. so far just updated the event page, i still need to go around to the rest of the sites to update that
#[fluffy]Ah, okay. So I should cancel my train and AirBnB then.
#[tantek]yeah sorry about that. was hoping the announcement in the newsletter of it being canceled would make it out to folks
#[fluffy]I, uh, don’t read the newsletter very often. 🙂 Any chance an email could be sent out to everyone who registered? Also what about refunds for the various registration fees?
#aaronpkmost of the airlines i've cancelled with so far have only given me travel vouchers, but extended the time the credit can be used. I haven't felt like fighting back on that
#jackyand I'd rather make something versus discuss it because it's easier to diff that than opinions
#[fluffy]ah, “If you want to cancel your reservation with no fee, you must call 1-800-USA-RAIL and speak with an agent (not available via Amtrak.com or the app).” well that’s accessible 😛 but whatever
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#[fluffy]ugh they still charged a cancellation fee. now on the phone with them AGAIN
#[fluffy]anyway moving this over to #indieweb-chat