#meta 2020-05-28

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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] speaking of HWC, you’re hosting tonight right?
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[tantek] HWC West Coast that is, in ~30 min
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[chrisaldrich] I had just logged in to ask you that question tantek?
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[chrisaldrich] Happy to fire things up unless you prefer to....
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[tantek] Lol uh oh
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[tantek] Yes please do!
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[chrisaldrich] Roger Wilco....
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk, I suspect you're the only one who can unlock the "allow participants to screen share" in zoom, correct? Is that something we might safely allow now that there are enough other layers built in to prevent zoom bombing?
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aaronpk let me check, i thought the host could change that once you're in the meeting
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[chrisaldrich] I know it wasn't possible last time I did it, though that was 2 weeks ago and the settings internally look the same now.
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aaronpk got it
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aaronpk did anyone figure out of the IWC London recordings were successfully downloaded and archived?
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aaronpk GWG? ^
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GWG I downloaded them
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GWG I did not yet archive them because of the cutting.
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@ChrisAldrich Homebrew Website Club West Coast is starting in 10 minutes. Come join us to talk about improving your personal website. #IndieWeb https://events.indieweb.org/2020/05/online-homebrew-website-club-west-coast-xAK8AU2k1nHp (https://boffosocko.com/?p=55771514) (twitter.com/_/status/1265807982656475142)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ That said, if anyone is serious about leaving sharecropping environments, please DM me / email me and check out @indiewebcamp it's now or never (twitter.com/_/status/1265847685275254784)
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GWG https://events.indieweb.org/2020/06/indiewebcamp-west-2020-ZB8zoAAu6sdN
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@jackyalcine Yeah. We need the @indieweb like yesterday. (twitter.com/_/status/1265856081940541440)
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@jackyalcine I’m getting an odd joy by working more on indieweb stuff because I feel that I can help people divest from environments that extract from us (our pain, our joy, anything) with little given back. Like I can see how this can help. (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/979f783b-9aa7-49f7-b21d-0d4999f95744) (twitter.com/_/status/1265891337368371201)
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@jgmac1106 Screenshots of adding blog to Blos I follow in Blogger #indieweb: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2020/05/28/screenshots-of-adding-blog-to-blos-i-follow-in-blogger (twitter.com/_/status/1266025490587975697)
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@RubyInside webmention-client-ruby: A Ruby Gem for Sending Webmention Notifications - https://github.com/indieweb/webmention-client-ruby (twitter.com/_/status/1266035758005092352)
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@joshmock ↩️ following. I'm slowly trying to "indieweb" my digital life, one service at a time. I was even thinking of setting up my own instance on Digital Ocean just for friends & family. (twitter.com/_/status/1266040257604194307)
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@kid_OYO ↩️ Good resource: https://indieweb.org/ #POSSE Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Everywhere #indieEdtech Methods Matter. #OwnRoot $OYO (twitter.com/_/status/1266066819066052609)
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aaronpk wow! https://www.manton.org/2020/05/28/closing-the-microblogging.html
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Loqi Closing the microblogging Slack
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aaronpk big decision
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aaronpk should we make a new channel here for the micro.blog community, similar to how we have a wordpress channel?
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[manton] Interesting question! I don't know. 🙂 Might be something that is best added only if people ask for it or if there are enough Micro.blog-related questions in the other channels?
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GWG [manton]: By same token, should your slack have an Indieweb room?
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GWG Oh... just noticed you are winding it down...never mind
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GWG Micro.blog freenode room?
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aaronpk [manton]: it's no big deal for us to add another channel, so let us know if you see people wanting a space to continue chatting about micro.blog
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aaronpk also i'm happy to help you get single-sign-on with discourse working with micro.blog
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[manton] Thanks! I linked to the IndieWeb chat in my blog post too. For Discourse, I want to wait a few weeks before considering it, just to see what the feedback from folks is.
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aaronpk makes sense
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[jgmac1106] [manton] your FAQ aren't bad and triaging email support isn't too bad, Reclaim Hosting tried both but the discourse isn't bad
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[jgmac1106] community will figure out ways to share and curate collections of posts for newcomers.
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[jgmac1106] hashtags << https://adactio.com/notes/14469
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Loqi ok, I added "https://adactio.com/notes/14469" to the "See Also" section of /hashtags https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=70108&oldid=67133
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ @threadreaderapp unroll please, so that I may post this wonderful thread on my own website. #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1266135271898099712)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ And of course once you've realized that your platform supports Micropub to publish to your website, why not try out one of the dozens of other Micropub clients out there? https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Clients (twitter.com/_/status/1266134849955303424)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Because it's a web standard, @ThreadReaderApp can build the functionality once & it should work on dozens of platforms including @WordPress @Drupal @WithKnown @CraftCMS @Jekyllrb @GetKirby @GoHugoIO @MicroDotBlog among a growing set of others. https://indieweb.org/Micropub/Servers#CMS_Software (twitter.com/_/status/1266134845631037440)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I'll mention for the masses that this publishing functionality is only possible courtesy of a W3C recommendation (aka web standard) known as Micropub. https://indieweb.org/Micropub (twitter.com/_/status/1266134844758605825)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ In #IndieWeb terminology this publishing workflow is known as P.E.S.O.S. or Publish Elsewhere, Syndicate to Your Own Site. https://indieweb.org/PESOS (twitter.com/_/status/1266134843865227264)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I've personally been using the #IndieWeb concept of P.O.S.S.E. (Post on your Own Site and Syndicate Elsewhere) for a while now. I'll post my content on my personal website first and only then syndicate a copy to Twitter. https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1266134834474147840)
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aaronpk wait does this mean threadreader shipped micropub support??
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jacky wait where?
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jacky I can't find any evidence of that
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jacky oh chris posted that on his site first
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aaronpk https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/1266134838949511169
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@ChrisAldrich Now with the help of @ThreadReaderApp, and the Micropub plugin for #WordPress, I'll be able to view my thread on ThreadReader in a brand new bonus feature that's currently in beta. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZIllVmVAAEfySP.png (twitter.com/_/status/1266134838949511169)
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aaronpk https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/1266134852358688769
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@ChrisAldrich Congratulations again to @ThreadReaderApp for helping to lead the way in the corporate social space for support of the awesomeness that Micropub allows. Thread away! (twitter.com/_/status/1266134852358688769)
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aaronpk i'm so confused
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jacky same
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jacky [chrisaldrich]: some clarity? lol
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[chrisaldrich] Ha! It's beta support. They emailed me earlier about how and where to find it, so that thread was the first test posting to Twitter and then micropub to my website.
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aaronpk ahhh
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[chrisaldrich] Here's the PESOS copy on my website... https://boffosocko.com/2020/05/28/55771540/
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] ThreadReaderApp now has beta support for the Micropub Spec so you can publish Twitter threads directly to your blog
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[chrisaldrich] As far as I can tell they haven't announced it officially and I can't see any evidence of support from my account's dashboard.
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aaronpk did the indieauth login work well?
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[chrisaldrich] Others might find support at the secret URL: https://threadreaderapp.com/account/micropub
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[chrisaldrich] The indieauth was quick, simple and flawless.
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aaronpk YES
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aaronpk it is!
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aaronpk just did it
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk++ for his patient support!
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[chrisaldrich] They may need some tweaks to it as they go along... the post to my site was not as an article (where would they have gotten a title), but it showed up as a note.
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aaronpk oh interesting, there's not really a title for threads huh
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aaronpk what would you want the title to be? hmm
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[chrisaldrich] They also don't apparently have u-syndication support since I didn't get any of the syndicated copies, though I suspect they could add that.
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aaronpk oh that'd be fun
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[chrisaldrich] I manually added a title to mine and manually added the syndication targets (mostly for Bridgy backfeed).
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aaronpk looking at a thread I manually POSSE'd to twitter... I used part of the first tweet as the title of my blog post
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[chrisaldrich] They could potentially use the first tweet as the title of the "article".
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[chrisaldrich] jinx...
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[chrisaldrich] I did have a small snafu on the the processing speed of the first one. I didn't quite wait for ThreadReader to unroll the entire thread so my first attempt only caught 7 of 26 tweets in the thread.
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[chrisaldrich] They do have a nice one button click to re-poll the thread to add other tweets in the thread to refresh it on their end.
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[chrisaldrich] Not sure if they're supporting edit/update on Micropub so that if one updated a thread every day that the thread could be updated on one's site. My initial tests indicate that it reposts the entirety.
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[KevinMarks] Neat stuff
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[chrisaldrich] They also do a date/timestamp of the micropub request and not the original thread post date/time.
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[chrisaldrich] kevinmarks++ for noterlive which inspired me to request this feature in the first place. 🙂
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk, so you used that URL and it worked for one of your threads?
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aaronpk i didn't try posting it, but I successfully connected via indieauth
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aaronpk i don't have any tweets that aren't posted from my website
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aaronpk [chrisaldrich]: just to confirm, you're using the indieauth and micropub plugins for wordpress, nothing special with them?
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aaronpk when they launch this i'm sure a lot of people are going to go install those, we should make sure it's super easy to set up
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk, yes my site is currently running vanilla versions of IndieAuth and Micropub plugins without any changes or tweaks that I'm aware of.
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aaronpk in fact, we should probably update the description of the micropub plugin instructions to push people to install the indieauth plugin. right now it's kind of buried https://wordpress.org/plugins/micropub/
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Loqi [IndieWeb WordPress Outreach Club] Description Micropub is an open API standard that is used to create posts on your site using third-party clients. Web apps and native apps (e.g. iPhone, Android) can use Micropub to post short notes, photos, events or other posts to your own site, ...
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aaronpk I really don't want a rush of people using indieauth.com with their wordpress sites
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[chrisaldrich] I've got plans to test out some potential edge cases and variations on a test server later.
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@pfefferle ↩️ Kannst du Bilder posten? Bei mir kommt ein Fehler: https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-micropub/issues/225 (twitter.com/_/status/1266145809772564480)
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aaronpk it's a worse setup experience and worse experience overall
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[chrisaldrich] I was thinking we may want to get rid of the bright yellow box at the top of the /micropub/clients page too?
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aaronpk probably heh
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aaronpk tho we do need a screenshot of iA Writer and Threadreaderapp :)
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[chrisaldrich] I'll catch some screenshots of threadreaderapp shortly.
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@JmacDotOrg Thread about a new @ThreadReaderApp feature, allowing a person with a micropub-enabled blog to self-publish a Twitter thread as a blog post. Always psyched to see open-standard IndieWeb technologies picked up (however experimentally) by commercial services. (twitter.com/_/status/1266148591153958913)
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jacky plurality++
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jacky did I spell that wrong? Lol
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jacky plurality
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jacky e