#meta 2020-07-16
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[chrisaldrich] [schmarty]++ for laying it all out there... 😂 for the yadayadas in the Bridgy Fed section...
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[schmarty] haha thanks chrisaldrich 😅
# [chrisaldrich] We do conflate a lot of extra material into the idea of webmentions.... I was always impressed that the word Microformats never appears in the spec, which means we are layering on a lot more...
# [chrisaldrich] maybe we need some vocabulary and more discussion around the idea of what those other pieces are...
# [chrisaldrich] maybe webmention is the mortar to other building-blocks?
# [schmarty] haha was just typing a less-good version of what you said ^^
# [chrisaldrich] If you look back even historically at WordPress, the Webmention plugin does the simple notifications part and another plugin actually does the parsing and displaying magic...
# [schmarty] i wasn't too confident on my WP + Webmention support. that's one that i totally forgot!
# [schmarty] i was thinking mostly about the publishing aspect (which is a microformats versus WP templating issue, not a WM issue)
# [chrisaldrich] The key to having a good building block though is the number of off-the-label uses it can have over and beyond what it was prescribed for.... and by that measure, webmention is a great one because it can be used for a variety of different things... including some I'm sure we haven't even thought of yet.
# [schmarty] oh for sure! my issues is not with Webmention! my issue is with _calling everything Webmention_
# [chrisaldrich] Maybe we need Webmention+™
# [chrisaldrich] Webmention II: Electric Bugaloo?
# [chrisaldrich] I'll be here all week... don't forget to tip the waitstaff.
# [chrisaldrich] dyac, that's Boogaloo I'm pretty sure....
# [chrisaldrich] apparently a bug in there somewhere... 🥁
# [schmarty] lol we can leave it off anyway since that term has been co-opted by militant right wingers 😒
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@toyinariyo66 Mastodon and IndieWeb users must be feeling so smug right now. (twitter.com/_/status/1283556875871690752)
# [chrisaldrich] Sad too, since that movie was using dance/art to move us to a more accommodating and accepting society (despite it's cheese-ball nature and excessibe overplay on early HBO).
# [chrisaldrich] I so want to respond to the use of "users" in that tweet with https://i.imgur.com/oPCh1FF.jpg?fb
# [chrisaldrich] Yes, and I was so glad to have looked up /people just now and not have seen that photo there...
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Loqi People are the root reason for the existence of the IndieWeb and many of the guiding principles are built around this idea https://indieweb.org/people
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@jackyalcine ↩️ The IndieWeb doesn’t have “users”, lol. It’s all people. No VC fluff, no “we gotta hit the KPI!”. People-centric and driven.
But nah, these events are moments to study and reflect on. Smugness helps no one (since again, we’re focused on people). (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/a55de486-144e-4012-8836-37c98220b984) (twitter.com/_/status/1283558659239358464)
# [schmarty] tantek: haha you were my inspiration for that caveat 😄
# [schmarty] yep
# [schmarty] totally agree about the "we now support %BUZZWORD%" factor contributing to my frustrations
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[jgmac1106] nope Electric Bugaloo belongs to hip hop and breakdance forever..fight the coopting all day.
# @toyinariyo66 ↩️ Yeah I'm definitely glad IndieWeb exists and that they're the antithesis of sites like this. This was just a poorly made joke about centralization and its drawbacks. (twitter.com/_/status/1283560644567064576)
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# @jackyalcine I need to make sure I grab something to eat and finish my demo before the homebrew website club tonight! https://events.indieweb.org/2020/07/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-UWgdEMwxDSQI (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/e366bb1f-694a-4f78-aaa4-6e6a66f88123) (twitter.com/_/status/1283560901904412672)
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@ChrisAldrich Grabbing a quick bite before joining Homebrew Website Club starting at 6:00 PM Pacific. Come join some great people talking about and improving our personal websites.
https://events.indieweb.org/2020/07/homebrew-website-club-west-coast-UWgdEMwxDSQI (https://boffosocko.com/?p=55773639) (twitter.com/_/status/1283564581114322944)
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@jgmac1106 Hanging with everyone at Homebrew Website Club West #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/1283575633638035456)
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@Cambridgeport90 ↩️ oh dear. Maybe you should consider joining the #IndieWeb and syndicating your content back out here instead of fooling with it. It's very satisfying. (twitter.com/_/status/1283583831195492353)
# @jgmac1106 Put it together at home brew website West club that I forgot to add new links to torrents I seed when I switched from utorrent to terminal. h/t to Angelo for letting me know. I totally spaced it, #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/mXcSp) (twitter.com/_/status/1283587034217684993)
# @Cambridgeport90 not to mention, was a distributed protocol, too. Never would have imagined it's content from it's name. Dweb enthusiasts, look carefully. Indienet and Indieweb are two very, very, different things. (twitter.com/_/status/1283593695900704768)
# [schmarty] came here to say that with an f instead of an h
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@vincentlistens Final blog post in my architecture redesign series.
"From #IndieWeb Monolith to Microservices"
https://vincentp.me/articles/2020/07/16/16-20/
If you want to catch up on previous articles thery are here:
https://vincentp.me/2019-redesign (twitter.com/_/status/1283625132527767553)
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@johanbove That Twitter admin hack shows how important it is to own our own online content and even our own platforms for posting on the Web. Want to learn more? Make yourself a cup of your favorite drink and have a look at https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started (twitter.com/_/status/1283634994439749633)
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@ilamlug ↩️ در مورد ارائهدهنده:
مدافع حریم خصوصی، علاقهمند به نرمافزار آزاد و بخشی از IndieWeb هستند.
https://indieweb.org
از طریق راههای ارتباطی در وبسایت علیرضا میتونید باهاش در ارتباط باشین.
https://alirezahayati.com
2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1283668688705589248)
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@iamhirusi I'm facing an issue implementing #indielogin authentication on a site. The code and state query parameters are simply not being picked up by the #Express server on the redirect from indielogin.
#indieweb #node #help (twitter.com/_/status/1283738566636388352)
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# Loqi [Event Updated] boffosocko.com updated "Jul 15, 2020 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club West Coast" changed description "archiving etherpad notes" https://events.indieweb.org/event/114/history/459/diff
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boffosocko.com created /events/2020-07-15-hwc-west-coast (+5366) "initial archive of etherpad" (view diff)
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@practicing_dsgn ↩️ Thanks, I really enjoyed co-hosting and definitely want to host more #IndieWeb events! Thanks for all your help! I’ll make sure to reach out to @aaronpk with my email today. (twitter.com/_/status/1283831916609695745)
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@TracyDurnell ↩️ Hoping to make it to the WordPress event you mentioned before, I might have work overlapping part but hopefully the timing works out! The IndieWeb community seems so welcoming and supportive, I'm glad I found it! (twitter.com/_/status/1283883837240401921)
# [chrisaldrich] community++
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aaronpk resynth1943: we are moving to usefathom.com for analytics, and the stats are even public here: https://app.usefathom.com/share/zphfryaa/indieweb.org
# resynth1943 That's brilliant.
# resynth1943 Is there a public issue board I could keep up with this on?
# aaronpk there's https://github.com/indieweb/wiki but now that you mention it i'm not sure this issue is in there
# resynth1943 Ahh, now that is curious. No worries if not, was just curious ^^
# resynth1943 I see the new issue ^^
# resynth1943 I'm honestly fine with Fathom
# resynth1943 It's not Google shit so...
# resynth1943 Anyway, thank you for your hasty response ^^
# resynth1943 v2 isn't IIRC
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# [jgmac1106] Can I add FOSS purity tests do no community any good. It's ethos over stuff for me... Build the ethos and people find the right stuff... But never demand you can only use the right stuff to build ethos
# [jgmac1106] I works with children all over the world.... I should say, "Can't come in because you use proprietary software"...no thanks
# resynth1943 That's not at all what I was saying
# resynth1943 I was simply commenting on Fathom :-)
# [jgmac1106] My mistake. I apologize
# resynth1943 :-)
# resynth1943 At least it's not Google(tm)
# resynth1943 (I learned about Fathom through Dan Abramov ^^)
# [jgmac1106] We just try to leave the main channel as welcoming as possible... Discussions of philosophy of are you FOSS enough can chase people away
# resynth1943 Ahh
# resynth1943 No worries :D
# resynth1943 Honestly I'm fine with Fathom, they don't do anything shady from what I can see so
# resynth1943 And they have a totally different business model from the big G...
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