#meta 2020-08-08

2020-08-08 UTC
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david.shanske.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+1544) "/* Microformats 2 */" (view diff)
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@NadjaBester Waiting for previous registrar to approve domain transfer so I can get started playing around with #indieweb is like holding my breath wondering when my parents will say yes to going to a house party. Reliving your youth, compliments of the brave new world of #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/1291962302846009344)
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tomasparks.name created /backblaze_b2 (+484) "Created page with "{{stub}} '''<dfn>Backblaze b2</dfn>''' is a file [[hosting]] service from [https://www.backblaze.com/ BackBlaze]. BackBlaze claim they are cheapest cloud storage company wit..."" (view diff)
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@abhij89 @wencesg says: "we're facing the unethical evolution of many social platforms, but there is a movement called the #IndieWeb that understands you're done with others owning your content and your identity!" https://buff.ly/3b8wAsO #startup (twitter.com/_/status/1292068295462526976)
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[Rose] Etherpad link for anyone looking for the IndieAuth pop up https://etherpad.indieweb.org/IndieAuth-Popup
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@jackyalcine Currently at https://events.indieweb.org/2020/08/indieauth-1-1-identity-protocol-standards-session-6xlxgeCEMgv8 talking shop about http://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/. (https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/79cd622f-7ae5-47cd-a94e-e15bfaf6b4b1) (twitter.com/_/status/1292142270859411457)
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tantek.com edited /2020/Pop-up/Sessions (+63) "/* Microformats 2 */ add mf2 parsing issues as a whole explicitly to the top since there are individual issues listed below" (view diff)
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[chrisaldrich] repost << The Markup has an interesting UI with a "republish" button that presents full html of an article including Creative Commons material for quickly cutting/pasting for a repost. Example: https://themarkup.org/google-the-giant/2020/07/28/google-search-results-prioritize-google-products-over-competitors
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Loqi ok, I added "The Markup has an interesting UI with a "republish" button that presents full html of an article including Creative Commons material for quickly cutting/pasting for a repost. Example: https://themarkup.org/google-the-giant/2020/07/28/google-search-results-prioritize-google-products-over-competitors" to the "See Also" section of /repost https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71941&oldid=68788
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[chrisaldrich] RSS << https://daverupert.com/rss-club/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://daverupert.com/rss-club/" to the "See Also" section of /RSS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71942&oldid=71777
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GWG [tantek]: I saw you looked at what I pulled out for a possible MF2 session.
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[tb] Turns out that it was indeed trivial to add PKCE on the server side!
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[chrisaldrich] tantek: circling back on the idea of adding HWCs and/or etherpads to the HWC template. https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71878&oldid=69748&rcid=71750 We certainly ought to do something, so those pages aren't orphaned. I'm not sure about how best to do/present it so there's less work/maintenance and some semblance of parallelism for what has come before.
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[chrisaldrich] Looks like we've also recently stopped/slowed the use of [[Category:Events]] on some of those pages as well...
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] it's ok that wiki pages aren't using [[Category:Events]] any more since the literal event pages are now all on events.indieweb
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[tantek] regarding presentation in the HWC template, see what I did for 08-05 with the 🌴
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[tantek] that's a suggestion to start with
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[chrisaldrich] I did, just need some additional time to think about it... if etherpads have the Category:Events by default then when they're archived, they'll show up in the bigger list and then can potentially be added to the template more easily in batches
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[jgmac1106] [tb] happy to help with East but has to be at or after 20:00 for me... But that gets close to West timing
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[jgmac1106] Before 20:00 has to be M or T as my partner works in restaurant industry. So W-S just me and kids
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[jgmac1106] I miss adults
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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Pop-ups (+40) "/* Schedule */ link to meetable schedule" (view diff)
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Loqi [Event Updated] boffosocko.com updated "Jul 25, 2020 9:30am Micropub Pop-Up Session" changed description "etherpad archived and wiki link" https://events.indieweb.org/event/128/history/522/diff
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aaronparecki.com edited /2020/Pop-ups/IndieAuth (+5106) "copy notes from etherpad, add formatting" (view diff)
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aaronpk hmm i am thinking about blocking webmentions from bridgy on events.indieweb.org
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aaronpk most of the time they are the promiscuous webmentions bridgy sends for replies to things that mention the page far down the reply chain
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aaronpk or likes of peoples posts that mention the event
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jacky perhaps if the content doesn't _explicit_ mention the link?
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Loqi jacky: [chrisaldrich] left you a message 1 week, 2 days ago: Since you're regularly updating your user page, would you consider adding yourselves as examples at https://indieweb.org/wikifying#IndieWeb_Examples ?
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jacky oh talk about a cached message
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jacky sure!
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aaronpk hmm
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aaronpk right cause people tweeting about the event would be nice to see
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aaronpk that's tricky then, I was hoping to avoid special-casing bridgy by just adding a list of blocked domains
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aaronpk i guess the general version of this is "only show plain mentions from this list of domains"
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Loqi [New Event] aaronparecki.com created "Aug 22, 2020 9:30am IndieAuth 1.1 Identity Protocol Standards Session (Session 2)" https://events.indieweb.org/uCtG38aoJyju
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aaronparecki.com edited /2020/Pop-ups/IndieAuth (+77) "add second session time" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2020/Pop-ups/IndieAuth (+229) "/* Consolidate authentication and authorization sections */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2020/Pop-ups/IndieAuth (+201) "/* New Features */" (view diff)
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aaronpk i tried to start recording after everyone had settled in so that the recording would start clean, but then GWG interrupted with that comment about pelle's mario background 😂
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aaronpk should i leave it in or cut this up and reencode it?
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aaronpk i don't really want to reencode it
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GWG Sorry
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aaronparecki.com edited /2020/Pop-ups/IndieAuth (+128) "add video" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2020/Pop-ups/IndieAuth (+16) "/* Notes */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2020/Pop-ups/IndieAuth (+655) "/* New Features */" (view diff)
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by aaronpk: https://github.com/indieweb/spec.indieweb.org/pull/4
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aaronpk GWG: can you approve that for me?
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GWG Okay
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Loqi [github] Pull request merged by aaronpk: https://github.com/indieweb/spec.indieweb.org/pull/4
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aaronpk TY
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/spec.indieweb.org to https://spec.indieweb.org
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/indieauth to https://indieauth.net
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/indieauth to https://indieauth.net
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Loqi [github] Successfully deployed indieweb/indieauth to https://indieauth.net
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Loqi [github] Error deploying indieweb/indieauth to https://indieauth.net
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Loqi [github] Pull request opened by tantek: https://github.com/indieweb/spec.indieweb.org/pull/5
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] no please do not pollute Category:Events with *notes* about the events. That's a very different thing, and more like individual sessions which have their own category
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[tantek] Category:Events should only be for actual event pages, that's my understanding. gRegorLove may be able to correct / refine that
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[chrisaldrich] I'm just going by the years of what I already see with that pattern: https://indieweb.org/Category:Events
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GWG [tantek]: What is next in trying to get microformats on the event page?
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[chrisaldrich] If anything the notes from these may actually be richer content for capturing and crosslinking
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[chrisaldrich] all of the "bigger" events are captured as sub-categories of particular years
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[tantek] Loqi, https://thestudy.substack.com/p/the-study-issue-32-keeping-a-commonplace or —?
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Loqi —
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] going by the years of what is on https://indieweb.org/Category:Events is 100% only actual event pages
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[tantek] so I'm not sure how you expanded that to include notes about/from events?
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[tantek] GWG, I have to unblock enough to suggest a date 2+ weeks out 😕
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[tantek] not sure what else
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[tantek] GWG, something you can do to help is see if you can post a /tag-reply from your own site to label one (perhaps your favorite) microformats issue with what stage it needs work in terms of the process
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[tantek] so technically that's a "what is next" that you can completely do on your own GWG! 🙂
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