#meta 2021-01-10

2021-01-10 UTC
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@artlung ↩️ If you’re considering archiving tweets there are tools here: https://indieweb.org/Twitter (twitter.com/_/status/1348066841982246914)
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[chrisaldrich] What is moderation?
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Loqi Moderation is the process of holding comments for review by a human, and sometimes a source of frustration when a comment is written on another site that the commenter has no control over https://indieweb.org/moderation
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[chrisaldrich] What is deplatforming?
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Loqi deplatforming or no platform is a form of banning in which a person or organization is denied the use of a platform (physical or increasingly virtual) on which to speak https://indieweb.org/deplatforming
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[chrisaldrich] deplatforming << [https://www.cigionline.org/articles/navigating-tech-stack-when-where-and-how-should-we-moderate-content Navigating the Tech Stack: When, Where and How Should We Moderate Content?] Joan Donovan (2019) article on content [[moderation]] with lots of good references.
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://www.cigionline.org/articles/navigating-tech-stack-when-where-and-how-should-we-moderate-content Navigating the Tech Stack: When, Where and How Should We Moderate Content?] Joan Donovan (2019) article on content [[moderation]] with lots of good references." to the "See Also" section of /deplatforming https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74214&oldid=53282
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@iosefmann ↩️ there's a project proposing things like this but it still ultimately relies on posting links to content on social media for discovery https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1348132078022365184)
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aaronpk not "relies on" no
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[tantek] it's more accurate than not. "for discovery" is exactly the purpose of POSSE with permashortbacklinks
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[tantek] and put it this way, what other prominent/successful methods of discovery are folks actually using?
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[tantek] (for discovery of their indieweb sites & posts that is)
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GWG I'm reliving the 2018 IWS
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[tantek] 2018 was an interesting year, first (and only?) time we held it in the traditional OS Bridge venue, that felt like a certain level of achievement
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GWG I'm checking the old posts on my site.
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[tantek] lots of very good technical discussions, some of which I feel may still be open! (there was that one about "types" or "extensibility" or something with Manton in it that I can't quite remember where it ended up but we had figured some stuff out about photos etc.)
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[tantek] it was near the end of the day
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[tantek] I think I enjoyed 2019 more
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[tantek] 2016 was particularly fun I remember, the organizers summit was great
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GWG I just remembered the rain.
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sdoconnell.net deleted /User:Sdoconnell.net "content was: "{{Infobox person |name = Sean O'Connell |url = https://sdoconnell.net |photo_url = https://sdoconnell.net/files/s...", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Sdoconnell.net|Sdoconnell.net]]" ([[User talk:Sdoconnell.net|talk]])"
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Jan 13, 2021 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - The Americas" changed meeting_url https://events.indieweb.org/event/199/history/701/diff
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Loqi [Event Updated] david.shanske.com updated "Jan 13, 2021 6:00pm Homebrew Website Club - The Americas" changed description https://events.indieweb.org/event/199/history/702/diff
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www.zinzy.website created /User:Www.zinzy.website (+100) "www.zinzy.website is the personal website of queer facilitator and product designer Zinzy Nev Geene." (view diff)
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@debs I’m in shock that the vociferous argument for an #indieweb is now being coopted by those who have no clue - @kevinmarks @tantek @evanpro (twitter.com/_/status/1348294117143490564)
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[tantek] Oh?
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GWG [tantek]: Oh what?
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[tantek] That tweet ^
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[Raphael_Luckom] I find that tweet hard to parse. The only interpretation that I can think of is "people I don't like are trying to use their personal agency for things I don't like." If that's the argument, I'm not sure what to respond besides "yeah, that's how it works."
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] and I know Debs personally so that’s an “informal” tweet
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[Raphael_Luckom] oh nvm
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[KevinMarks] I did a podcast with Debs and Heather on how to bring more human values to tech
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[tantek] I mean your interpretation is still valid. It’s a public tweet so one has to expect that folks unaware of context will be reading it
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[KevinMarks] http://tummelvision.tv/
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[Raphael_Luckom] eh, there's no reason for me to gratuitously "well actually" anybody if I can know better.
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[KevinMarks] I need to sort that site out and make it static I think
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[tantek] [Raphael_Luckom] also true :)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ Some call them hovercards. https://indieweb.org/hovercard has some research and good examples of these from across the web. (https://boffosocko.com/?p=55785396) (twitter.com/_/status/1348381878852743175)
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david.shanske.com edited /responses (+71) (view diff)