#meta 2022-01-03
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@t Posting notes on your site is the “Hello World” of the independent web.
If you speak to the ideals of the #openWeb #decentralizedWeb #distributedWeb #federatedWeb #indieWeb or even #smallWeb, walk your talk: post your notes somewhere you control. ...
https://tantek.com/t5G_1 (twitter.com/_/status/1477799190382055425)
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[KevinMarks] Cluetrain manifesto was early on and a useful rallying one. Different audience than the declaration of independence of cyberspace
# [KevinMarks] There were a bunch of bills of rights too.
# [KevinMarks] Joe being the only one of the signatories not called out for being an abuser
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Loqi [[Template:W3C_standards]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:W3C_standards&diff=1063432117&oldid=prev SamanthaNguyen: don't use redirect link
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@clavinjune I have enabled WebMention on my blog! Link at my profile.
#webmention #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1477829563031834627)
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@justagwailo Life Happens: Towards Community Support For Prioritizing Life Events And Mutual Care, Starting With The #IndieWeb https://tantek.com/2021/051/b1/life-happens (twitter.com/_/status/1477882542028206081)
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@alienlebarge ↩️ @Meta is killing the internet. Take a look at #indieweb and medium like @joinmastodon and @microdotblog (twitter.com/_/status/1477901498814242816)
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jamietanna[m] Snarfed not sure if you're aware but a couple of times recently my feed reader shows a dozen or so posts of yours appear as new, despite showing their publish date as any time over the last week?
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petermolnar.net edited /Facebook (+4147) "cleaned, formatted, and moved some links from "See Also" to "Articles and Related Links" (tbc)" (view diff)
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petermolnar the Facebook "See Also" is a godforsaken place
# petermolnar we can't allow the wiki to be like this
# petermolnar I think I've had enough for now
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[aciccarello] I'm seeing a `
{{{2}}}` on the top of https://indieweb.org/Facebook is that b/c the TOC is too big?
# [aciccarello] Ah, that's better
# petermolnar You know that it's a community wiki and nit your personal one, right?
# petermolnar It is indieweb related in my resd I just ran out of capacity for today. Why does this bother you so much?
# petermolnar I'm going to walk away from this for now before I write rather angry words.
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tantek.com deleted /Long_Now "content was just link to org website, no indieweb relevance. can be recreated with an indieweb relevant dfn when there's an explicit connection/citation"
# tantek.com deleted /longnow "content was broken redirect because the " is " shorthand in IRC still doesn't create redirects"
# tantek.com edited /whisper_tag (+207) "this article should be deleted unless someone wants to add IndieWeb relevance" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /domain_squatting (+207) "this article should be deleted unless someone wants to add IndieWeb relevance" (view diff)
# Loqi BookWyrm is a social library platform and open source software built on ActivityPub https://indieweb.org/BookWyrm
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "social library platform" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "social library platform is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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@capjamesg ↩️ Congratulations! Keep us posted on what you build :)
P.S. if you want to chat about blogging or building a personal website, check out the http://indieweb.org community :) (twitter.com/_/status/1478120656042696713)
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zerojames[d] [tantek] a quick Loqi message that says “A quick heads up that the see also section of web3 is getting a bit long. It may be time for a cleanup” or something with that sentiment would be useful.
# zerojames[d] So we can keep on top of any pages with excessively long See Also sections whose content can be merged into the main page body.
# zerojames[d] Or broken out, etc.
# zerojames[d] +1
# zerojames[d] How do we make this happen?
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# Loqi manual until it hurts is an indieweb principle of resisting automation until you have done it enough times to really understand it, and know that it is worth doing https://indieweb.org/manual_until_it_hurts
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[tantek] in this case, zerojames[d], we practice "how to "clean up" / merge-in See Also additions into the core of the article" manually enough times to start seeing helpful patterns / guidance that we can agree on amongst ourselves (e.g. here in #indieweb-meta) and then add that rough consensus to /wikify
# [tantek] zerojames[d], note for example that a long "Articles" section is a marginal improvement over a long "See Also" section. So though we don't want to discoruage that, what we really want to encourage is meaningful/thoughtful clustering/incorporation of sets of related See Alsos into their own subsections in a wiki page, typically in Criticism subsections
# petermolnar many of those articles, especially under Facebook, combine multiple topics, so putting them under a single part of Criticism doesn't always make sense
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