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[KevinMarks] We have a couple of scripts for jf2 to html. Unmung does it relatively crudely, but fluffy's is better documented
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GWG Last night I was looking for a session on private post uis and couldn't find it
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[chrisaldrich] Sorry, thanks [KevinMarks] I remembered it going to jf2 not back. That's handy then. I'll have to dig around for fluffy's version.
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GWG [jgmac1106]: We might be doing a merch shop. Got those shirt slogans?
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[jgmac1106] ha ha, just shared the code for the website the other day
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[tantek] need photos for the HWC events this week! GWG?
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GWG I need to crop in a [chrisaldrich]
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[tantek] Interesting, Misinfocon 2022 is planning an in-person event March 25th in Amsterdam: https://misinfocon.com/hacks-hackers-announces-new-misinfocon-events-for-2022-b38d6b5a5205
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GWG Aren't they under lockdown?
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[jacky] "lockdown"
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[jacky] wonder if it's virtual
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[tantek] Nope this is planned for in person in March. They expect it to be ok by then
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GWG https://wptavern.com/wordcamp-birmingham-updates-covid-19-protocols-amid-omicron-surge-wordcamp-europe-still-planning-for-in-person-event?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=wordcamp-birmingham-updates-covid-19-protocols-amid-omicron-surge-wordcamp-europe-still-planning-for-in-person-event The discussion here made me think about how safe events can be pulled off
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capjamesg[d] [KevinMarks] What would one accomplish with jf2 to HTML? I had never thought about that conversion need before.
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[snarfed] capjamesg that's what web-based microsub readers do, right?
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capjamesg[d] Ah I suppose so haha.
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capjamesg[d] I hadn't thought of it that way.
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capjamesg[d] In that case, I have some very crude jinja2 templates that turn jf2 into HTML.
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capjamesg[d] Who should I talk to about moving a repository to the indieweb/ org on GitHub?
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capjamesg[d] Also, how often should the chat logs be pushed to GitHub? I see the last commit was 7 days ago: https://github.com/indieweb/indieweb-chat-archive
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Loqi [indieweb] indieweb-chat-archive: Full archive of IndieWeb chat log data files
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Loqi [New Event] calumryan.com created "Jan 12, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" https://events.indieweb.org/XueKi4mitTMM
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Loqi [Event Updated] calumryan.com updated "Jan 12, 2022 7:00pm Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" changed meeting_url https://events.indieweb.org/event/328/history/993/diff
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@capjamesg I am RSVP'ing yes to the next Homebrew Website Club London event. I look forward to seeing everyone there! (https://jamesg.blog/notes/2022-01-07-232/) (twitter.com/_/status/1479403941477728256)
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[KevinMarks] unmung has xoxo support which turns arbitrary json into html lists and definition lists, https://github.com/PlaidWeb/webmention.js/ also turns jf2 into HTML to display jf2 output from webmention.io in web pages
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+173) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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@fundor333 POSSE - IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1479452888346812416)
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aaronpk ugh they're supposed to be pushed every 15 minutes or so, but if you make a change on GitHub that it's unable to merge automatically then it can't push
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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[tantek] I feel we need more positive things in there
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capjamesg[d] Any loose definitions we could stub?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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[tantek] capjamesg[d], take a look at /to-do, there are a bunch of suggestions for new pages in there
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[tantek] the other thing you could do is take a look at loooooong pages that you've frequently viewed and see if they have a loooooong section that could be broken out into its own page, and leave a nicely edited/curated summary section behind
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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tantek.com edited /post-type-discovery (+187) "was a W3C Note, now an IndieWeb Living Standard, discussion on indieweb-dev" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /jf2 (+277) "was a W3C Note, now an IndieWeb Living Standard, link to current canonical draft" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] Yay!
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Loqi woot
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capjamesg[d] Re: distributed web blog post on /to-do that is interesting.
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[tantek] oh yeah, that's a lot more work
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[tantek] definitely not for "right before the newsletter"
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capjamesg[d] I was going to write something short for distributed web search but I couldn’t get into the flow.
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capjamesg[d] Ah I’m past my computer time for the day 😂
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capjamesg[d] I’ll make the jf2 changes tomorrow. That’s definitely something I want to add to since I have used jf2 quite a bit lately.
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[tantek] yep, was also hoping that maybe we could get jf2 to have more (non-trivial) edits that some of the other "most edited pages"
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[tantek] right now the top edited pages are all negative/defensive, and that's not great
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capjamesg[d] Yes. That isn’t great.
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capjamesg[d] Let me think about what I have been doing.
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capjamesg[d] I’ll add to the IndieWeb utils page.
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capjamesg[d] And jf2.
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tantek.com edited /blogroll (+369) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ , past examples, me" (view diff)
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[tantek] capjamesg[d], do you have a blog roll? if so, add yourself to https://indieweb.org/blogroll#IndieWeb_Examples
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[tantek] if not, if you aspire to have a blog roll, then add yourself to a "Brainstorming" section on that page with why you want a blog roll and your thoughts about what yours might look like
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tantek.com edited /discovery (-183) "start a separate page for discovery algorithms" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /discovery-algorithms (+403) "stub with some text from main discovery page" (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] I do! And I have thoughts on programmatic blog rolls.
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capjamesg[d] Did I blog about that? Let me check…
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[tantek] alright, there's one new indieweb-centric page at least
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capjamesg[d] blogroll << Proposal for a Microsub to blogroll tool: https://jamesg.blog/2022/01/07/microsub-to-blogroll-idea/
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Loqi ok, I added "Proposal for a Microsub to blogroll tool: https://jamesg.blog/2022/01/07/microsub-to-blogroll-idea/" to the "See Also" section of /blogroll https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=78974&oldid=78971
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tantek.com edited /discovery () "(-6954) move dev-related content to discovery algorithms page" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /discovery-algorithms (+6939) "add dev related content from main discovery page" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /discovery-algorithms (+96) "move dev related see alsos from main discovery page to here" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /discovery (-174) "move dev-related see also to discovery algorithms page" (view diff)
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[tantek] well it was about time that one got split up
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tantek.com edited /wiki-page (+107) "see wiki project for current efforts" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /PBWorks (+1200) "How to leave, start by setting up a redirect, advantages" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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[tantek] let's see if that helped
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capjamesg[d] I might take on the reacji/ reactjis split page tomorrow too.
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[tantek] it helped a bit
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capjamesg[d] I’ll have more for next week haha.
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[tantek] I took a look at that one and it's kinda hard. happy to collaborate on that capjamesg[d] as it would make a good learning opportunity!
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[tantek] hey folks, if you can find small improvements to make to /discovery /blogroll /wiki-page and /why, we can bump those up above the less indieweb-relevant pages in the Newsletter
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capjamesg[d] I’ll maybe create a basic page tomorrow. To the extent I can see, the plural page would be for documenting the examples of presentation whereas the individual page would be more about markup, etc.
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capjamesg[d] What is a blogroll?
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Loqi A blogroll is a list of other sites that you read, are a follower of, or recommend https://indieweb.org/blogroll
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capjamesg[d] It looks like Tom Morris no longer has a blogroll.
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capjamesg[d] Maybe create a past examples section?
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[tantek] like literally most people here have a blogroll (I think), e.g. [KevinMarks] maybe GWG, aaronpk? and could add themselves to the IndieWeb Examples there
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[tantek] capjamesg[d] I did: https://indieweb.org/blogroll#Past_Examples 🙂
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capjamesg[d] I do too.
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[tantek] go ahead and see if you can look up his blogroll in the Internet Archive and add a link to it there and move his entry to Past Examples
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capjamesg[d] https://jamesg.blog/blogroll/
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Loqi [James] Blogs I follow using RSS
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capjamesg[d] Oh wow that page is missing many blogs haha.
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GWG I don't have a blogroll
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[tantek] capjamesg[d], it can't be "missing many blogs", it could be missing many IndieWeb community members that have blogrolls
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capjamesg[d] No I meant my article.
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capjamesg[d] I subscribe to at least 100 blogs in my feed reader. That article doesn’t list nearly that many.
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capjamesg[d] I definitely need the automated blogroll thing.
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tantek.com edited /PBWorks (+17) "group How to" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html
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tantek.com edited /blogroll (+110) "stub Kevin Marks entry, no idea when he started his blogroll" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /PBWorks (+537) "How to stop creating" (view diff)
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petermolnar.net edited /blogroll (+469) "added myself" (view diff)
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petermolnar.net edited /blogroll (+351) "how to re-enable Links Manager in Wordpress." (view diff)
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petermolnar.net edited /blogroll (-2) "/* How */" (view diff)
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indieweb.org/this-week/2022-01-07.html (twitter.com/_/status/1479592442194055170)