#meta 2022-01-10

2022-01-10 UTC
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@jjdelc
↩️ There comes @indieweb to the rescue! #PESOS and #POSSE for syndication https://jj.isgeek.net/2022/01/10-011244/
(twitter.com/_/status/1480346843376721923)
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[tantek]
Anyone else up for some Sunday night tweeting and kind responding? Feels like a good way to start the week
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[tantek]
Growing up I remember the longform "60 minutes" broadcast which explored various recent important topics. I wonder if there would be any value in a coordinated version of that via IndieWeb posts (POSSE tweets)
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loqi.me
created /make_what_you_want (+31) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]"
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loqi.me
created /cook_what_you_want (+53) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]"
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loqi.me
created /cook_what_you_need (+53) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]"
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[tantek]
what is eat what you cook
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Loqi
eat what you cook is a metaphor for the IndieWeb principle “use what you make”, encouraging creators to use what they create, in particular on their personal website https://indieweb.org/eat_what_you_cook
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[tantek]
to-do << New page (soon!) : turn [[cook what you want]] into an actual page on its own, extracting content from its current fragment redirect, leaving behind a mini summary and { { main| } } template, and making the new page the logical counterpart to [[eat what you cook]], with See Alsos pointing both ways
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Loqi
ok, I added "New page (soon!) : turn [[cook what you want]] into an actual page on its own, extracting content from its current fragment redirect, leaving behind a mini summary and { { main| } } template, and making the new page the logical counterpart to [[eat what you cook]], with See Alsos pointing both ways" to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79037&oldid=78544
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aaronpk
Should Loqi not nudge people to #indieweb-dev who are new to the channel?
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aaronpk
or maybe a different way to say that?
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aaronpk
alternatively, for people who are known (on /chat-names) maybe be more strict?
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[tantek]
yes, the /chat-names filter seems good.
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[tantek]
though we have had a few successes recently with new people being nudged
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aaronpk
I guess it just seems odd to say "to newcomers" to a newcomer
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aaronpk
So maybe there's a different way to phrase that
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[tantek]
oh yeah definitely don't have Loqi call people "newcomer" or any other label like that
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[tantek]
aaronpk, how about only triggering the "to #indieweb-dev" nudge based on what people listed in /chat-names say, however, when the trigger executes, then look at what *anyone* recently said that matches the /jargon list. that way if a new person does get nudged, they only get nudged in the context of a "regular" so they don't feel singled out
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aaronpk
That could work
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@matdryhurst
↩️ the idea is that if we can make it work for us, it might work for everyone, and the subscription bundling is a beautiful idea, something enabled by the web 3 toolset, and not available elsewhere. 2022 is a year of selfdogfooding https://indieweb.org/selfdogfood
(twitter.com/_/status/1480620787732135936)
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[tantek]
voxpelli++
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Loqi
voxpelli has 4 karma in this channel over the last year (8 in all channels)
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[tantek]
oh dear how did we become a citable reference for selfdogfooding 😂
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[tantek]
hmm, that page looks like it's still in transition a bit to the replacement(s) for selfdogfood
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[tantek]
what is use what you make
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Loqi
eat what you cook is a metaphor for the IndieWeb principle “use what you make”, encouraging creators to use what they create, in particular on their personal website https://indieweb.org/use_what_you_make
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[tantek]
I didn't expect that to be a redirect
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[tantek]
a-ha we have /make_what_you_need but not the corresponding page for use what you make
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[tantek]
maybe that's a good new page project for this week
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[tantek]
to-do << extract the "use what you make" principle and supporting text/quotes from the [[eat what you cook]] metaphor and create a new page for [[use what you make]] rather than a redirect (may need to delete & recreate so it shows up as new), as the complement to [[make what you need]].
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Loqi
ok, I added "extract the "use what you make" principle and supporting text/quotes from the [[eat what you cook]] metaphor and create a new page for [[use what you make]] rather than a redirect (may need to delete & recreate so it shows up as new), as the complement to [[make what you need]]." to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79040&oldid=79037
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[tantek]
to-do << ^ as part of the above, analyze the [[selfdogfood]] page for content that would make sense to include or move to the new [[use what you make]] page, and turn [[selfdogfood]] into more of a metaphor-focused & historical page similar to [[scratch your own itch]]
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Loqi
ok, I added "^ as part of the above, analyze the [[selfdogfood]] page for content that would make sense to include or move to the new [[use what you make]] page, and turn [[selfdogfood]] into more of a metaphor-focused & historical page similar to [[scratch your own itch]]" to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79041&oldid=79040
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[tantek]
to-do << analyze which pages link to [[selfdogfood]], manually decide if they should reference and link to [[use what you make]] instead, and update those refs/links accordingly.
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Loqi
ok, I added "analyze which pages link to [[selfdogfood]], manually decide if they should reference and link to [[use what you make]] instead, and update those refs/links accordingly." to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79042&oldid=79041
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[tantek]
to-do << ^ similarly, analyze which pages link to [[eat what you cook]], manually decide if they should reference and link to [[use what you make]] instead, and update those refs/links accordingly.
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Loqi
ok, I added "^ similarly, analyze which pages link to [[eat what you cook]], manually decide if they should reference and link to [[use what you make]] instead, and update those refs/links accordingly." to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79043&oldid=79042
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[tantek]
to-do << after creating the new [[use what you make]] page, update [[principles]] to link directly to it in principle 4
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Loqi
ok, I added "after creating the new [[use what you make]] page, update [[principles]] to link directly to it in principle 4" to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79044&oldid=79043
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[tantek]
clearly a non-trivial update with a bunch of dangling things to update
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capjamesg[d]
GWG re: merch. I think this line of ideas is a good candidate for merchandising: https://indieweb.org/HELLO_my_URL_is
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aaronpk
yeah i need to set those up again
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[tantek]
I have no idea what happened to my HELLO MY URL IS tshirt(s)
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[tantek]
which is kind of ironic, a different kind of loss of "identity"
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tantek.com
edited /fun (+143) "Eleventh principle section"
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[tantek]
the upcoming Webmention anniversary makes me think we should have an IndieWeb calendar of sorts, with dates commemorating various events / inventions / demonstrations / publications
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[tantek]
thoughts? what do people think? worth it?
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[tantek]
with the proper markup, could maybe even auto-generate a ICS file with repeating events
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aaronpk
that's a fun idea
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[snarfed]
sounds like it could be somewhat based on https://indieweb.org/timeline
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aaronpk
oh yea! maybe add something to entries in that list to mark them as "significant" for the calendar?
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[tantek]
exactly, that's where we'd draw the data for dates
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://www.w3.org/History/1992/WWW/FAQ/KeepingTrack.html" to the "See Also" section of /manual_until_it_hurts https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=79047&oldid=74246
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