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@fractal_person TiddlyWikiPharo is a tool @offrayLC for modeling, manipulating, querying and visualizing wikis made in @TiddlyWiki within Pharo/#GToolkit. https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/uv/docs/es/miniwiki/grafoscopedia.html#TiddlyWikiPharo (twitter.com/_/status/1535779212627427335)
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@lobsters A new protocol (IndieWeb adjacent): “Spring '83” via @chriskrycho https://lobste.rs/s/f3pmz0 #release #web https://www.robinsloan.com/lab/specifying-spring-83/ (twitter.com/_/status/1535797826776702983)
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@Bobe_bot A new protocol (IndieWeb adjacent): “Spring '83” (http://lobste.rs) https://www.robinsloan.com/lab/specifying-spring-83/ (twitter.com/_/status/1535804086527868928)
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@PinoBatch ↩️ If you're adding YouTube-like functionality to your own website, consider these - GNU MediaGoblin - PeerTube - https://indieweb.org/video (twitter.com/_/status/1535829194499842048)
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@Futurwerk Am I on the IndieWeb yet? #100DaysofCode #CSS #Javascript #Developer https://css-tricks.com/am-i-on-the-indieweb-yet/ (twitter.com/_/status/1535829160853401600)
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GWG I have to stop writing long rambles at 3AM. https://david.shanske.com/2022/06/12/indiewebifying-a-wordpress-site-2022-edition/
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GWG [snarfed]: Should I have referred to you by name instead of just calling you community member? I was trying to make a point
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[snarfed] oh I didn't care, totally fine. what was the point?
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GWG [snarfed]: That all of these things are community endeavors, not commercial ones.
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GWG It's the idea you 'need' Bridgy to be on the Indieweb.
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GWG Or webmention.io is Webmentions or Indieauth.com is IndieAuth
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GWG That's what keeps coming up
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[snarfed] oh, sure!
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GWG Oh, and we're inching ever closer to 5.X
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[snarfed] :crossed_fingers:
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GWG https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/tree/5.X - It is 249 commits ahead of the 4.X branch.
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www.ciccarello.me edited /Webmention (+277) "add a why section" (view diff)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /Webmention (+220) "/* How to implement or display */ Add high level description" (view diff)
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[aciccarello] Okay, I made two changes to the beginning of the webmentions page that IMO should help someone new to webmentions understand the concept. I could see how the "why" section might be considered repetitive and why the "how" section was intentionally taken out of the main page so people are welcome to disagree with my edits.
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[aciccarello] The main thing I was trying to accomplish was to help clarify what webmentions are for a newcomer.
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[tantek] GWG++ good blog post!
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Loqi GWG has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (72 in all channels)
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GWG [tantek]: The misconceptions re protocols and why might be something we could address upfront
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[tantek] where are the misconceptions documented?
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GWG [tantek]: I mentioned some in my post and in here earlier
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GWG Webmention.io != Webmentions, IndieAuth.com != indieauth
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[tantek] I think we need to capture specific actual instances of "misconceptions re protocols" (preferably with citations) so we can address them point by point, and not just hearsay (which is potentially endless)
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GWG The indieweb WordPress plugins require no external hosted items to function... except maybe bridgy
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GWG I've seen those multiple times
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[tantek] right, there is the pattern of naming such "basic services" for a protocol after the protocol itself, so then people confuse the two
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GWG Yes, I also need to do some wiki work myself on the WordPress stuff
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Seirdy yeah my approach is the opposite of the wordpress plugins. my site is static but has a bunch of adjacent services running that add indieweb functionality.
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[tantek] also valid!
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@cr0ybot ↩️ It's a pretty shallow thought on my part and I'm sure others have considered it in more depth (hello indieweb) so maybe it's a much harder problem than chasing the social media flavor of the week... (twitter.com/_/status/1536089690000039937)
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[tantek] tl;dr: P2P >>> POSSE >>> PESOS
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@scojjac ↩️ I feel like this is what Automattic is doing with the http://WordPress.com Reader and Tumblr. The proposed indieweb version is Microsub https://indieweb.org/Microsub, of which there are some working examples. (https://scojjac.com/?p=781) (twitter.com/_/status/1536103275157721091)
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jacky yeah I think I recognize some of these titles from other link aggregators
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jacky oof that was for #indieweb ^
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